The EA Play discount has utterly predatory marketing behind it.

[Jorde]

The cost is listed as 99 cents, but in reality it only saves you $4 on a 60$ a year charge, and finding the real price required scrolling for 20 seconds past a long list of games. The marketing is downright false and intentionally hiding the real price. And Steam is abetting this by making the EA Play impossible to review, and letting the price be hidden.

[Judgmental Amaterasu]

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Escrito originalmente por ReBoot:

EA Play is a subscription. Recurrent payment for recurrent service, that's the definition of a subscription.
The price you see in this screenshot is a temporary discount.
You assuming this temporary discount to be permanent is your fault.
You scrolling down 20 seconds doesn't make your complaint any more valid either, there's that "Join" button right on top of the page that scrolls you down right to the pricing.

Thanks for assuming I thought it was permanent. But yeah you're right, the real price is fairly easy to get to, even if it is buried. I'm still annoyed by the lack of reviews on something displayed at the top of the Steam store.

Because everyone else has the common sense to realize a discount on a subscription service is only for the first month unless stated otherwise.

[Realigo Actual]

foot in the door economics, yes. but not even to the level of the games that use it.

predatory? wouldn't go that far in this case. gotcha deals on subscriptions are not new and were not invented by the games INDOSTRAY.

[ReBoot]

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How is EA Play different from those?

EA Play is paying a monthly fee for the ability to play a ton of games for up to 10 hours, and a 10% discount on buying those games. This makes it very distinct from bundles (which usually have only a few games, or 1 main one) so it's easy to just look at those game's reviews. But this one has a unique payment method and also has no meat on its own bones. But nobody is able to say that, or maybe say they are happy with it.

A bundle has no meat on it's own bones. A bundle may just as well contain more games, than one (in fact, one of the bundles I've linked you does). The unique payment method (namely recurring payment through subscription) doesn't explain why you don't want to check the reviews for the included games.

Look hun, from your opening post, it's clear that this is the first time you encounter a subscription (and the first time you encounter a combined package). I suggest you take a HUGE step back, drop your assumptions and think about what subscription are, not about what you want them to be based on said assumptions.

[Start_Running]

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Escrito originalmente por Crazy Tiger:

How is it predatory when it is literally listed that after the first month it's the normal price?

Mostly talking about this:
https://imgur.com/a/YmUtJY9

Scanning from left to right I see the name of the subscription. That it is at an 80% discount and what the base price is.

The price I saw displayed up front and center was $0.99. But it only saves you 4$, and you have to click the join button, or scroll down for 20 seconds past a long list of games to see the real price. What I saw on the Steam page also didn't navigate me to that store page you showed.

Or you know, just look slightly to the right of the $0.99.

I'm gathering from this thread that reading is not your sttrong point.

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foot in the door economics, yes. but not even to the level of the games that use it.

predatory? wouldn't go that far in this case. gotcha deals on subscriptions are not new and were not invented by the games INDOSTRAY.

Retailers gotta move product.

[J4MESOX4D]

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Thanks for assuming I thought it was permanent. But yeah you're right, the real price is fairly easy to get to, even if it is buried. I'm still annoyed by the lack of reviews on something displayed at the top of the Steam store.

Because everyone else has the common sense to realize a discount on a subscription service is only for the first month unless stated otherwise.

Exactly. These have been around for a very long time.

[nullable]

I'm not against people being able to review EA Play. Although everything else about your argument is 100% pure weapons grade bolognium.

[( ( < < <🤖> > > ) )]

EA Play... a month is 30 days

You can join on the 1st cancel on the 2nd
and your membership usage cancels at the end of 30 days..

a yearly deal gives you full 365 days

you can find revues everywhere

mmmm dough nuts

[Satoru]

People seem to like throwing around words like "predatory" and "anti-consumer' now to the point where when I see anyone saying this, it becomes obvious they don't know what those terms actually mean, and just throw it out to actually mean "I dont like this"

[Start_Running]

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People seem to like throwing around words like "predatory" and "anti-consumer' now to the point where when I see anyone saying this, it becomes obvious they don't know what those terms actually mean, and just throw it out to actually mean "I dont like this"

Yup. It's used to trigger emotional rresponse. Anti-this is meant to make one feel that their are being actively attacked. Predatory, like wise again plays up the 'victim' angle.

When it really is just their personal shortcomings. In the case of the OP... its basically justa failure to bloody well read, Though you've been around these forums long enough to know that seems to be a common trait behind most complainers.

[( ( < < <🤖> > > ) )]

this is what i found...

"Predatory Marketing Practices Defined
Predatory Marketing Practices (PMP's, from here on out), in my world, would
mean any activity that is instigated- usually, by the larger manufacturers in this
industry- to either tangibly harm, or eliminate entirely, their smaller competitiors.
There's a very good reason why it works for Big Companies, and against Smaller
Companies. It's because the Big Companies generally have the resources to
make them happen, and utilize them effectively, while the Smaller Companies
usually don't." by Bud Stratford

[Yasahi]

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I'm not against people being able to review EA Play. Although everything else about your argument is 100% pure weapons grade bolognium.

What's there to review though? If you're posting about the games, you should be reviewing the games themselves.

[ReBoot]

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People seem to like throwing around words like "predatory" and "anti-consumer' now to the point where when I see anyone saying this, it becomes obvious they don't know what those terms actually mean, and just throw it out to actually mean "I dont like this"

Things get worse when you read Russians ranting. They're throwing around "gay", "autist" & "down" as synomys for "I don't like it" while not giving the slightest ♥♥♥♥ about the actual meaning of those terms.

[nullable]

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Escrito originalmente por Snakub Plissken:

I'm not against people being able to review EA Play. Although everything else about your argument is 100% pure weapons grade bolognium.

What's there to review though? If you're posting about the games, you should be reviewing the games themselves.

Price, features, selection of games. I dunno. I can see why people would want to write reviews for it. You can write a review for anything if that's what's in your heart of hearts. I'm not sure there's much value in being able to write reviews for subscriptions. I'm not against it though. We'll survive either way, with or without it.

[DocShady]

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Escrito originalmente por Crazy Tiger:

How is it predatory when it is literally listed that after the first month it's the normal price?

Mostly talking about this:
https://imgur.com/a/YmUtJY9

The price I saw displayed up front and center was $0.99. But it only saves you 4$, and you have to click the join button, or scroll down for 20 seconds past a long list of games to see the real price. What I saw on the Steam page also didn't navigate me to that store page you showed.

The problem is not so much EA here as it is steam. The screen shot you posted is displaying EA's sale price exactly as steam intended it. There is likely no option to add a small note there saying something like "For the first month only" in that product box. That note is listed in the store page.

Make a post in the suggestions forums. This is not an EA issue

[nullable]

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Escrito originalmente por Jorde:

Mostly talking about this:
https://imgur.com/a/YmUtJY9

The price I saw displayed up front and center was $0.99. But it only saves you 4$, and you have to click the join button, or scroll down for 20 seconds past a long list of games to see the real price. What I saw on the Steam page also didn't navigate me to that store page you showed.

The problem is not so much EA here as it is steam. The screen shot you posted is displaying EA's sale price exactly as steam intended it. There is likely no option to add a small note there saying something like "For the first month only" in that product box. That note is listed in the store page.

Make a post in the suggestions forums. This is not an EA issue

Or if you go through the whole process,

1. Click on the item in the screen shot
   
2. which takes you to, https://store.steampowered.com/subscriptions/ea
   
3. click on Join EA Play
   
4. which takes you to https://store.steampowered.com/subscriptions/ea#SaleSection_77945
   
5. Read the options. Confused? Then you're the problem. Not EA or Steam.

This is as mundane as it gets. Other subscriptions doing a promotion do variations of this. And even the screenshot shows the standard monthly price on discount. Anyone who wants to concoct a wildly favorable scenario before they have all the facts, and pitch a fit about their assumptions being wrong is the problem. Not EA or Steam.