Valve handheld (Steam Pal)

[Citizen Cook]

PC Gamer are reporting on the possibility of a Valve handheld device: https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/steam-client-update-code-points-to-possible-handheld-console-in-the-works/

If this is true I’d be over the moon.

I wanted to buy a Steam machine back in the day but decided against it because Valve didn’t do anything in-house so to speak and they were underpowered and overpriced.

[ezwip]

If you throw enough darts you'll hit a bullseye?

[Aya]

Another point in favour of bribing developers: If PlatinumGames is to be a target for such bribes, I think a Steam handheld would see a fair degree of success due to having a better Devil May Cry game than DMC5.

[No skill only Tiktok]

I think the controller is good, but the layout just doesnt work. Because of that it only fits a few amount of games. But they showed something unique with it.

The their VR headset is the best one atm.
So there is a big chance the handheld will be good too.

[Halo]

Автор сообщения: brian9824

Again look at Epic which has put itself in a position that it will take DECADES to recoup the money its spent on exclusives for its platform.

You obviously haven't looked at them - https://www.statista.com/statistics/1234106/epic-games-annual-revenue/

What are you talking about - decades would generate $100bn or more, do you have any idea how much that is and how hard that would be to spend?

I don't and you obviously don't either.

One thing you can always guarantee on a Steam forum is ignorance.

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Yup and it will take 20 double a batteries and last for a whole 15 minutes.

Of course nothing nowadays uses batteries except tv remotes.

[Brian9824]

Автор сообщения: Halo

Автор сообщения: brian9824

Again look at Epic which has put itself in a position that it will take DECADES to recoup the money its spent on exclusives for its platform.

You obviously haven't looked at them - https://www.statista.com/statistics/1234106/epic-games-annual-revenue/

What are you talking about - decades would generate $100bn or more, do you have any idea how much that is and how hard that would be to spend?

I don't and you obviously don't either.

One thing you can always guarantee on a Steam forum is ignorance.

Funny that your claiming ignorance. You are aware those revenue numbers aren't remotely what you are claiming them to be right?

#1. That is GROSS Revenue, it doesn't take into account the money they spent to generate that revenue.
#2. Of that money they only keep at most 12% of it, as most of it goes to the publisher.
#3. Those numbers include revenue from their game engine which is not a factor in discussing the epic store
#4. Its also including other revenue streams not tied to the store.

I mean did you even READ the article you linked, or did you just google and grab the first article you saw?


I'm actually quite aware of Epic's numbers as they have had to release a lot of info due to their failing lawsuit against apple. They have lost hundreds of millions of dollars each year despite their gross revenue.

https://mmofallout.com/epic-games-store-might-break-even-in-2027/

I can find the link from the thread I made before, but basically they are losing 100+ million a year with their exclusive deals and aren't even expecting to break even until 2027 at which point they will have accumulated over a BILLION dollar in losses.

So then over the next 15 years those losses have to be paid down before the store actually generates a profit. Having 5 billion dollars in sales doesn't mean much when it costs you 5.2 billion dollars to generate those sales.

But hey, I suppose its easier to call people ignorant then to do research to learn this stuff.

[Dingus]

Will it have a dpad though

[adz]

if it runs on steam os, how is proton? because 90% of my library was made for windows. so this new "steam pal" might not work as good. if you can install windows 10 it will be awesome.

[Citizen Cook]

I would love to free myself from Windows. If Valve can get my game library playable without needing windows I’d buy just for that! :)

[ReBoot]

Автор сообщения: Citizen Cook

I would love to free myself from Windows. If Valve can get my game library playable without needing windows I’d buy just for that! :)

Ever heard of Proton?

[Crashed]

Автор сообщения: adz

if it runs on steam os, how is proton? because 90% of my library was made for windows. so this new "steam pal" might not work as good. if you can install windows 10 it will be awesome.

It gets better every day. The DXVK driver provides up to near-native performance for DirectX 9, 10, and 11 games.

The biggest roadblock is when games depend on kernel-mode anti-cheat or DRM. Note Denuvo DRM is user-mode thus compatible with Proton.

[adz]

Автор сообщения: Crashed

Автор сообщения: adz

if it runs on steam os, how is proton? because 90% of my library was made for windows. so this new "steam pal" might not work as good. if you can install windows 10 it will be awesome.

It gets better every day. The DXVK driver provides up to near-native performance for DirectX 9, 10, and 11 games.

The biggest roadblock is when games depend on kernel-mode anti-cheat or DRM. Note Denuvo DRM is user-mode thus compatible with Proton.

well if i can play all my library on this device with no problem i will buy one with steam os. but my guess is it will have usb ports so i guess we could install windows 10.

[Aya]

Автор сообщения: Crashed

Автор сообщения: adz

if it runs on steam os, how is proton? because 90% of my library was made for windows. so this new "steam pal" might not work as good. if you can install windows 10 it will be awesome.

It gets better every day. The DXVK driver provides up to near-native performance for DirectX 9, 10, and 11 games.

The biggest roadblock is when games depend on kernel-mode anti-cheat or DRM. Note Denuvo DRM is user-mode thus compatible with Proton.

I think that's where native ports have value, I think. Hence my earlier suggestion for bribing various Japanese game companies into supporting the Steam handheld.

[Radene]

How'd this become a discussion on Epic?

...oh, yeah.

[Start_Running]

SteamPal might just be the name of their new Peripheral.