Sebastian Nielsen 2021 年 2 月 8 日 下午 3:38
CD keys for old games
I wonder, if I would stumble upon a old game I purchased requiring a CD key (ergo where the key check hasn't been patched away) - what do I do then?

I see the CD key option has been removed.

It was a very few games that required a CD key upon first install. It seems most of them have been patched, for example Doom3 and Doom3: RoE required CD keys for a very long time, but now it seems to be patched away so the games do auto-activate.

Most games have had their CD key check patched away, so the CD key option is superflous nowadays, but for some games they may still require a CD key (where this hasn't been patched away).
What is then the "legit" solution?

(Haven't yet found a game where this hasn't been patched away, but IF)
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cSg|mc-Hotsauce 2021 年 2 月 8 日 下午 3:43 
Most don't need keys. The ones that do will still show you the key upon 1st launch.

Others with 3rd party clients don't need them now either.

If this has anything to do with games you have yet to add to Steam, be more clear on that.

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最后由 cSg|mc-Hotsauce 编辑于; 2021 年 2 月 8 日 下午 3:45
nullable 2021 年 2 月 8 日 下午 3:43 
I'm not really clear. If the game requires a CD key, then you'd input the CD key. If you've lost the CD key, you'd rebuy the game because you lost the thing that gives you rights to use it. And either keep better track of the CD key, or if you bought a digitally distributed version you probably wouldn't need to worry about it.

最后由 nullable 编辑于; 2021 年 2 月 8 日 下午 3:45
Brian9824 2021 年 2 月 8 日 下午 3:49 
引用自 Sebastian Nielsen
I wonder, if I would stumble upon a old game I purchased requiring a CD key (ergo where the key check hasn't been patched away) - what do I do then?

I see the CD key option has been removed.

It was a very few games that required a CD key upon first install. It seems most of them have been patched, for example Doom3 and Doom3: RoE required CD keys for a very long time, but now it seems to be patched away so the games do auto-activate.

Most games have had their CD key check patched away, so the CD key option is superflous nowadays, but for some games they may still require a CD key (where this hasn't been patched away).
What is then the "legit" solution?

(Haven't yet found a game where this hasn't been patched away, but IF)

Re-buy the game as your buying the key, not the CD. So if you lose your key and it requires one you need a new one,
Sebastian Nielsen 2021 年 2 月 8 日 下午 3:53 
Snakub Plissken:
This is about old games purchased on steam. Those games did have a neat little "CD Key" button, giving you a "free CD key" for the game, so you could activate it despite the CD-key check not being patched away for Steam distribution.

Note that you did only get 1 free CD key "assigned" to your steam account.

The dialog box did tell you to write down the CD-key for "future records" but since the CD key always were there, I didn't write it down.

If the CD key option has been removed, rebuying the game wouldn't solve the problem, since you wouldn't get a CD key button with the game.

On all my games in library that had a CD key button, that button have now been removed completely.

brian9824:
Rebuying the game wouldn't solve the problem. Since the CD key button is removed, it would mean you would buy the game without any key (ergo the digitally distributed version) and you would need a retail box or retail key to be able to play the game.

NOTE: You were ONLY given the key if you bought the game on steam store. Buying the game retail and activating the game on steam, would of course not give you a second key for free, it would instead tell you to use the retail box to activate the game.



cSg|mc-Hotsauce: Do they really do that? Since I don't think Steam did a large inventoring of old games and which required CD key and which did not.
I think they just have removed the whole CD-key option, and those that hasn't written down their steam-assigned CD keys, will lose the game forever.

For example, Prison Architect is a game that required a CD-key to access their forums. That CD-key check is nowadays removed, but you still got the CD-key popup every first launch.

Now you no longer get the CD-key popup at new installs. Meaning that IF prison architect would be a game that did require a CD key, it would be unplayable.
最后由 Sebastian Nielsen 编辑于; 2021 年 2 月 8 日 下午 3:58
nullable 2021 年 2 月 8 日 下午 3:57 
What games are you having a key issue with?

Or is this just hypothetical worry?
最后由 nullable 编辑于; 2021 年 2 月 8 日 下午 3:58
Brian9824 2021 年 2 月 8 日 下午 3:58 
Steam should have an option to view cd key when you click on any game you own that requires it. Most games you wont see it because its not required.

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=4950-EKAM-2644
Sebastian Nielsen 2021 年 2 月 8 日 下午 4:01 
Snakub Plissken: Just hypothetical. I have a large amount of historic or old games in my library. And if I ever get a larger harddrive, I might want to reinstall and relive these games.

Can't really sit there and reinstall about 300+ games and check which ones require a CD key, but since Steam just have blatantly removed every CD-key option for every game, it seems that they might have hitten a landmine on those games that still haven't had their CD key check patched away.

Some of these games are abandonware, meaning that the distributor is no longer reachable, and Steam would then propably just go for the option of dropping it from the store if it became known that the game is unplayable without a CD-key.

brian9824: This option have been REMOVED for *all* games!. That KB article is no longer relevant.
最后由 Sebastian Nielsen 编辑于; 2021 年 2 月 8 日 下午 4:02
nullable 2021 年 2 月 8 日 下午 4:05 
I see, so you can imagine a scenario where you'd have games that were unplayable because Steam was somehow cavalier about updates that would lock users out.

Well I'm not aware of games that are crippled in that scenario. You'd kind of expect to see people complaining about that if it was occurring. I think Valve can probably update their various DRM schemes without crippling games. I also can't think of a time where the CD key popup actually required a user to copy that key and use it manually. Although I've hardly bought every old game on Steam.
Sebastian Nielsen 2021 年 2 月 8 日 下午 4:09 
yeah, it seems that every game that required a CD key have been patched for this time so it no longer requires a CD key. One of the bigger example is as I said, Doom 3 and Doom 3: RoE.

Its just that I feel that there must be a few games there, which is abandoned (where a company just have bought the IP and no longer cares for the game) and then a CD key check.

Kinda difficult to give an example, but if you do stumble upon a game that requires a CD key despite being bought on steam (not redeemed as retail key, but bought in the actual steam store) hint it here in the thread and we could look what happened to those games.
Brian9824 2021 年 2 月 8 日 下午 4:18 
引用自 Sebastian Nielsen

brian9824: This option have been REMOVED for *all* games!. That KB article is no longer relevant.

I believe it was temporarily removed due to an exploit of people stealing origin keys from EA Play. So once its fixed it should be back.
Sebastian Nielsen 2021 年 2 月 8 日 下午 4:23 
ooh now I understand. Tought it was permanently removed.

IMHO Valve shouldn't "fix" such things, it should be EA that should be responsible of not distributing "fully valid"/live CD keys via that CD-key option. Valve could simply say to EA "Its your own fault for distributing live CD-keys via that interface".

(but instead crippled so they aren't valid for online activation on other platforms, but just valid to run the game itself)

What I have understand, the 3rd party developer have full control of whats distributed as CD keys via a HTTPS server interface, and EA could easily set aside a series of keys that is still valid to activate the game, but blocked/restricted/banned to use in any other online platform.
最后由 Sebastian Nielsen 编辑于; 2021 年 2 月 8 日 下午 4:26
I'm unclear as to what you mean. I have Alice: Madness Returns and can view the CD key ok when I right click it in my library (it also pops it up on the overlay when I run the game), despite no longer needing it, so it is still there.

Mind you, that game is an unusual case, since it was before Origin was released, so when you do run it, it requires an EA log in, but I just use my origin details.
Darren 2021 年 2 月 8 日 下午 5:09 
CD keys that are actually needed are still there and available. For example Kenshi still has one.

If the CD key option has been removed from a game it's because it is no longer needed. In the case of Prison Architect it's a Paradox game now so it gets linked to your Paradox account and works directly via Steam no need for a CD key.

As for your specific problem (EA disabling key generation) there is no need for them to generate keys. All the other third-party launchers (UPlay, Paradox, etc) handle authentication of ownership automatically through Steam. So I'm not surprised they've disabled them (since nobody needs them) and will no doubt implement the new mechanism everyone else uses to automatically authenticate the ownership with Steam and add the game to your linked Origin account.
最后由 Darren 编辑于; 2021 年 2 月 8 日 下午 5:09
Crashed 2021 年 2 月 8 日 下午 5:17 
If a game requires a CD key, it's under Manage in the right click menu.
Yaaga 2021 年 2 月 9 日 上午 12:29 
Ohhh
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