Changing IP address confuses steam?

[Macaw!]

Every time I change my IP address, steam panics and tries to reauthenticate, fails, then I have to close it and reopen it. Why is it so useless?

[Peelsepuuppi]

Publicado originalmente por Macaw!:

But you do share an activity in common with criminals. Also the whole privacy thing... all you're really doing is changing who can see and harvest your data. if you think your VPN isn't keeping tabs then I have a bridge to sell you.

Look up "no log VPN". They have no interest in harvesting or logging you. If they were found out, they'd lose most of their customers very quickly.

That is indeed a selling point for some companies. but you can never be certain. If they allowed an audit then that's pretty much the best you can get. With VPNs you have to ultimately trust the provider. However that doesn't mean they don't collect data about who their users are even if they don't log your VPN use.

[Peelsepuuppi]

Publicado originalmente por Macaw!:

Publicado originalmente por ToveriJuri:

Commercial VPNs provide multiple servers that you are free to choose between And it's made very easy to change between them.

As far as VPNs specifically designed for Finland. I don't know I haven't used one. However you are right I did a search and apparently many VPNs do come with a Finnish server. I haven't used a VPN in a while, but this wasn't the case back when I did. VPNs have increased their popularity a lot in the recent years so it's a relatively recent development.

Isn't Finland like Norway, having less poking into your business laws from the government? Look up "five eyes". It's not thieves you have to watch for, it's your own government.

Our government has been trying to give police and our Intelligence agencies more power to investigate internet activities of ordinary citizens. The problem with that is that our people tend to trust the police and government agencies to a fault so the laws are probably going to pass eventually.

Police has already a lot of power. They don't need a warrant from a judge to search a house for example. Again people here trust police and government institutions a bit too much.

[Macaw!]

Publicado originalmente por ToveriJuri:

Publicado originalmente por Macaw!:

Look up "no log VPN". They have no interest in harvesting or logging you. If they were found out, they'd lose most of their customers very quickly.

That is indeed a selling point for some companies. but you can never be certain. If they allowed an audit then that's pretty much the best you can get. With VPNs you have to ultimately trust the provider. However that doesn't mean they don't collect data about who their users are even if they don't log your VPN use.

As long as there's no record of what you've visited, that's all you need. Why would you care if they just did basic numbers on how many Chinese use it, how many people use it for torrents, etc?

[Macaw!]

Publicado originalmente por ToveriJuri:

Publicado originalmente por Macaw!:

Isn't Finland like Norway, having less poking into your business laws from the government? Look up "five eyes". It's not thieves you have to watch for, it's your own government.

Our government has been trying to give police and our Intelligence agencies more power to investigate internet activities of ordinary citizens. The problem with that is that our people tend to trust the police and government agencies to a fault so the laws are probably going to pass eventually.

Police has already a lot of power. They don't need a warrant from a judge to search a house for example. Again people here trust police and government institutions a bit too much.

They trust them way too much. I'd trust a random stranger over anyone connected to any mafia, I mean government.

[Macaw!]

Publicado originalmente por Grand Ayatrollah:

Publicado originalmente por ToveriJuri:

Most techies are probably on a "list" somewhere. Hell googling and downloading tails or the tor browser already puts you on a "list".

ya dont use tailz. it pputs you on the only list that matters, your internet service providers naughty list.

and honestly, it doesnt matter if vpn is illegal or not, what matters is does your internet service company like it.

i can tell you in canada, 2 out of 3 providers did not. telus, i had no problems with, but shaw and my current one throttle me bad. some nights, i get the "your country does not allow vpn, would you like to turn on obfusicated servers?" warning from nord (nordvpn does it automatically btw for someone who asked before).

shaw internet switched me from dynamic to static internet, lied to me told me its switching, and they DONT EVEN HAVE residential static internet! my modem told me i was set to static buisness service! but they just wouldnt admit it. thats why you should use vpn and your own risk.

another thing, twice in canada at 2 seperate branches, i had to go in person and produce 2 forms of idea to allow me to make online purchases again after accidently trying to buy something with my vpn set to a strange country. and hotmail... had to text verify to get my account going again..

so the answer is funny really, its not illlegal, but... if you not doing any "illegal activities", you actually shouldnt bother.

Publicado originalmente por ToveriJuri:

aren't nearly as eccentric as many of the students were back then,

HA

Everything is bloody illegal. I think in the USA it's actually a criminal offence to download pirated films. At least in most countries it's only a civil offence.

[Macaw!]

Publicado originalmente por Grand Ayatrollah:

Publicado originalmente por Macaw!:

Isn't Finland like Norway, having less poking into your business laws from the government? Look up "five eyes". It's not thieves you have to watch for, it's your own government.

i have cease and desist warnings from nordvpn or they will delete my account, and thats not five eys

NordVPN asked you to stop doing something? WTF? They must be lying about not logging then. They know what you did and they are upset that you did it. If what you're saying is true, what has NordVPN given you? There's no point in having it if you still get told off.

[Macaw!]

This steam reauthentication as per the original post wouldn't be so bad if it remembered my password like the tickbox tells it to!!!

[Peelsepuuppi]

Publicado originalmente por Macaw!:

Publicado originalmente por ToveriJuri:

That is indeed a selling point for some companies. but you can never be certain. If they allowed an audit then that's pretty much the best you can get. With VPNs you have to ultimately trust the provider. However that doesn't mean they don't collect data about who their users are even if they don't log your VPN use.

As long as there's no record of what you've visited, that's all you need. Why would you care if they just did basic numbers on how many Chinese use it, how many people use it for torrents, etc?

The Snowden leaks should have taught people why. Just because some of your actions are just bunch of numbers in a massive data dump of user behavior doesn't mean that information can't be used to target individuals specifically.