VAC and cheat engine

[Nazunawa]

So, VAC bans you if the game files are modified right? since not all games have VAC, so is it safe to assume using a cheat engine on a game without VAC i wont get VAC banned? im kind of new to how VAC works

[Zekiran]

Vac will only throw a ban if it detects a known cheat for a game being used. (or for being on an account that is connected to said cheater's by phone auth number)

If you're using it on games that aren't vac protected, there's no problem at all.

Vac generally is on multiplayer games. Not on single player ones, however check the game forums for games which are 'single player' but with an added online component such as leaderboards.

[[☭]-Soviet-Triumph-]

Memory editors like CE is most easily detectable cheats, if external process is trying to force edit values from game executable it will surely get you banned. binds are fine because it simply mimics your keyboard typing.

[Zekiran]

(well, binds might be 'not cheats by code definition', but they may be SEEN as cheats by other people.)

[[N]ebsun]

Originally posted by DavedZrod:

So, VAC bans you if the game files are modified right? since not all games have VAC, so is it safe to assume using a cheat engine on a game without VAC i wont get VAC banned? im kind of new to how VAC works

VAC bans based on detection of known cheats - similar to how antivirus software detects virus signatures.

Playing on a VAC secure server with cheats = VAC ban.

3rd party anti-cheat might ban you, but depends on the game.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Cheat Engine only causes a VAC ban when it is used to cheat on a VAC enabled game, in a VAC secured server.

Leaving it open causes a VAC error.

[Nazunawa]

Originally posted by Nebsun:

Originally posted by DavedZrod:

So, VAC bans you if the game files are modified right? since not all games have VAC, so is it safe to assume using a cheat engine on a game without VAC i wont get VAC banned? im kind of new to how VAC works

VAC bans based on detection of known cheats - similar to how antivirus software detects virus signatures.

Playing on a VAC secure server with cheats = VAC ban.

3rd party anti-cheat might ban you, but depends on the game.

does vac bans also apply to multiple games when it detects it? like, if i play on non vac enabled, it wont detect me using cheat engine at all(?)

[blunus]

Originally posted by DavedZrod:

Originally posted by Nebsun:

VAC bans based on detection of known cheats - similar to how antivirus software detects virus signatures.

Playing on a VAC secure server with cheats = VAC ban.

3rd party anti-cheat might ban you, but depends on the game.

does vac bans also apply to multiple games when it detects it? like, if i play on non vac enabled, it wont detect me using cheat engine at all(?)

Nothing happened because you're NOT using it to cheat in a VAC secured server on a VAC ENABLED game. You get VAC errors instead.

[Nazunawa]

what is VAC errors? and does it impact my gameplay or steam, or something else

[blunus]

Originally posted by DavedZrod:

what is VAC errors? and does it impact my gameplay or steam, or something else

https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/22C0-03D0-AE4B-04E8

Valve added Cheat Engine as the list for VAC errors, assuming you're not using it on any VAC enabled game.....
https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/22C0-03D0-AE4B-04E8#software

[Nazunawa]

Originally posted by blunus:

Originally posted by DavedZrod:

what is VAC errors? and does it impact my gameplay or steam, or something else

https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/22C0-03D0-AE4B-04E8

Valve added Cheat Engine as the list for VAC errors, assuming you're not using it on any VAC enabled game.....
https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/22C0-03D0-AE4B-04E8#software

i read it, and it only says disconnected from a game. does changing the game speed(to speed up long dialouges) count as file modification

[Mad Scientist]

Originally posted by DavedZrod:

Originally posted by blunus:

https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/22C0-03D0-AE4B-04E8

Valve added Cheat Engine as the list for VAC errors, assuming you're not using it on any VAC enabled game.....
https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/22C0-03D0-AE4B-04E8#software

i read it, and it only says disconnected from a game. does changing the game speed(to speed up long dialouges) count as file modification

Having CC be tied into a game is enough to cause any protections for the game to disconnect and/or ban you.

Don't use CC unless it's a singlepayer-only game or otherwise you're in singleplayer mode in a non protected game. Do not ever use something like that for multiplayer or a game with an anti-cheat.

Originally posted by Arkham99:

Originally posted by Zekiran:

If you're using it on games that aren't vac protected, there's no problem at all

except that it's cheating and that's problem you idiot...:-)

Actually games like Factorio you can use it to only speed up the game (singleplayer), as to play it faster at a pace you can still enjoy, instead of being too slow for some individuals.

Besides, if it's single player only or just in singleplayer, why care if they're cheating or not? As it wont affect other players.

[Satoru]

Note that VAC bans can only be issued on VAC enabled game

That said if you use any cheating tools you always run the risk of being banned because many cheat tools are poorly written and may trigger VAC in other games because of it

Use cheat tools at your own peril

[Nazunawa]

Originally posted by Satoru:

Note that VAC bans can only be issued on VAC enabled game

That said if you use any cheating tools you always run the risk of being banned because many cheat tools are poorly written and may trigger VAC in other games because of it

Use cheat tools at your own peril

triggering vac bans on other games? hmm, does it also still happen if im in offline mode(steam)

[Satoru]

Again if you cheat you risk being banned

[blunus]

Originally posted by DavedZrod:

Originally posted by Satoru:

Note that VAC bans can only be issued on VAC enabled game

That said if you use any cheating tools you always run the risk of being banned because many cheat tools are poorly written and may trigger VAC in other games because of it

Use cheat tools at your own peril

triggering vac bans on other games? hmm, does it also still happen if im in offline mode(steam)

It doesn't matter if steam is running in offline mode or not unless you put -insecure command (for Source games) or turn off internet connection.