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Laws regarding digital content dictate that none of this is illegal, as you simply purchase a license, one which is not indefinite. Until Digital ownership gets redefined in digital laws, it won't change.
Technically you can still play Rocket League. All you have to do, is make an extra account. You don't qualify for a refund, not from Steam. You might try Psyonix, but don't get your hopes up.
Also, people should stop comparing the purchase of a license (game) to the purchase of an actual product (car). It's apples and oranges, they cannot be compared, it's a very flawed analogy.
You can try a court case to see it changed, but until then digtal content laws don't disagree with what ss happening. In the EU they are slowly changing those laws, though most won't come into effect in the upcoming 1,5 year.
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You never had that security. If you read all the licenses, EULA's and digital laws, you'll note that content creators and stores actually have the right to revoke your licenses. Let alone change terms.
What you use as your main platform is your choice. Only you can decide why it should be your main platform or not.
Until digital ownership gets redefined and laws get upgraded to actually work with the digital world, it won't change.
And no, consumer laws regarding physical content does not apply to digital content. For physical items, you have a guarantee and such. For digital content, you do not. It's the whole reason why the EU is changing their directives around to provide better digital content law, and through that better consumer protection. As said, those will start to come in affect in 2021 and 2022.
The EU has an own section on digital content in their directives. Those apply. You can't take generic directives and apply them as you see fit.
This has been discussed before, just do a search. As it currently is, no laws are actually broken, as you don't own the content and the changes (whether an extra launcher or account) are accounted for through EULA's and licensing terms. Hence why I said that digital ownership (who owns the actual content) and other laws regarding digital content (to provide actual consumer protection) need to change. Which is a very slow process, unfortunately.
I'm not disagreeing with you that it's a tad scummy what Epic is doing. But as it is, there isn't much you can do until either:
- the laws regarding digital content get updated to todays standards. Most are a decade old, or even older;
- a large enough group of gamers says "no, we don't do it" and boycott it, though that won't happen considering that gamers aren't a homogeneous group and many people simply don't care that much.
I didn't say they are law. I said they are licensing terms which are covered mostly by the laws. EULA's for the most part are considered valid by any country and law, unless they put in very unreasonable terms. Your example will be considered unreasonable in the context. An extra launcher or sign-ing will not.
Nobody is stopping you to start a court case about it to get it changed. Posting on a forum never will get anything changed, mate.
But until the law actually catches up and forbids things like it, all you can do is make the choices for yourself. I'd be mad too would I play RL, but there really isn't that much one can do about it, unfortunately.
The thing is mostly that people forget that these terms ALWAYS have been like this. However, before the digital age it couldn't actually be enforced. Not even the "limited installations DRM" was considered illegal.
You are confusing what you *want* things to be with how things actually *are*. In a few years, the digital content laws (or directives, how ever you want to name them) will be in effect which provide much better consumer protection. Part of the new directives is that for digital content it's better defined what a consumer may expect or not and who has what rights (consumer/seller/content creator).
But if you are that convinced, go to your local consumer rights agency and report Valve and Steam.
Valve accepts this, as it's not against their ToS. The publisher decides how and when they offer their product. 3rd party launchers and accounts are not an issue and up to the publishers, according to Valve.
Secondly. You can srtill, as far as I've heard, launch the game with the steam client, it just requires a secondary login with an EGS account.
Thirdly, you were never guaranteed access to the product forever. There comes a point in all games where the servers get shut down. Gonna be a fun day when that finally happens to WoW.
On the other hand, it indeed has no real effect. Rocket League is still downloadable and playable from your Steam library. Your progress is still there, your cosmetics, your rank, they're all still there.
The only effect there is is a hurt principle. The consensus may have revolved aroudn "does it ACTUALLY matter, not in some butthurt-principle-way?"
Anyway, in future, think for yourself. Inform yourself and make informed decisions.
Erm...no reason. There's reason. They are swapping networks and backends. SO yeah thats a pretty big reason. Again this seems to be more about your understanding of these things than a violation of your percceived rights. And considering the only cost to you is the maybe 5 mins it takes to sign up for a free EGS account...yeah. thats not exactly a barrier.
Considering the legit reasosn can include thhings like:
- Can't be assed to update the servers
- We could make more money using the server time for a different game.
OP. This is only as much of a restriction as YOU choose it to be. Requiring a one time account creation of a free account is not a restriction to any reasonable person who actually wants to play the game. You and others will simply have to choose whether you want to play the game, or you want to Spite epic. Pick one. But there's no violation of your consumer rights going on here. This is just a matter of you making a choice and living with the consequences.
Nowhere does it say you WON'T need an Epic account. In fact, that promise Psyonix made, is kept. They promised you'll be able to keep on playing it on Steam. Which you can. I mean, that "remains available" part may be up to debate as it's unavailable for purchase, but it's available for playing.
So short, you went with wishful thinking, expecting things to go your way just because. That customer rights you're talking about doesn't mean you can turn off your brain.
But that debate needs to happen in lawmaking bodies and courts.
Due to covid the value of gaming has skyrocketed and big players will vie for position. Sadly they only see the money and are not equipped to deal with actually owning these things so quality is going down hill. RL for example has people complaining of stability of servers... Remnant from the ashes is in trouble also.
Frankly I wouldn't buy anything right now.. maybe a steam game made by steam? Not even sure a place like Ubisoft might get bought out... just can't tell what may happen.
I would advise not buying games for about 10 years until the dust settles and they work out the consumer issues like multiple log ins required and server stability.
Maybe pick up a hobby or two in the meantime.
Not.
I don't think the average gamer follows the financials section of the news, to be honest. Who's buying up whom... There's just a few of us who follow, compared to the rest.