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This has absolutely nothing to do with being outdated or having unsupported versions of the client. Any developer can tell you that it is nothing to put a selector in 'Settings' to run a new version that looks exactly like the old one and doesn't eat resources. Anyone in their right mind would prefer an option that doesn't require more resources from their PC.
No, this is all about commercialism and putting products in your face. Where there's money to be made, these little things simply do not matter. The fact is, Steam makes more money from the new client, so why use the old one?
So is this being consumer unfriendly? Sure it is. But who cares? Steam would do it even if every single customer complained. Why? Money is the main reason. That and a contract that no one reads that allows them to do whatever they want. So the consumer has no choice in the matter anyway.
You want to play the games that you own? You have to do it the commercialized Steam way.
Thanks Steam. We used to love it.
I love these kind of naive ideals.. thinking that valve will actually listen to negative opinions in the beta forums.. It's sooooo cute.. BUT ITS WRONG!!!!
Reality is Vavle wont even bother to read them.. cries for an old UI option prolly date back to the inception of the whole new UI crap.. anyone saying anything that wasent all flowers and roses was told to leave and go pound dirt by the beta community. for the most part it was if you dont like it then leave the beta..
They dont wanna listen to any kind of reason on the matter.. negative opinions are just someone bullying you and being mean. They plug thier ears and hum happy tunes while swallowing entire bottles of prozac til they see enuf rainbows coming out the backside of magical unicorns.. At which point they go back to work on thier monstrosity cause they can no longer hear a voice of reason over the unicorn farts in thier ears..
They do listen, though. They re-added Small mode, for example. Just don't expect them to provide a revert button, as that's just not the road that they've taken.
Keep in mind that just because people complain about something, that doesn't mean it also should be changed. In the same vein that reasoning for party A doesn't mean it's also reasoning for party B.
The one thing they do need to address, though, is the memory leakage that some people suffer from. Whether someone likes tha aesthetics of the new UI is merely subjective and in my opinion shouldn't be much of a factor for Valve, but performance problems are a no-go.
That said, I don't suffer from performance issues, though I'm not a fan of the new UI.
Personally I wish we would get better customisation options, to tailor the library pages much better to our needs. Let us choose what we find important sections (turn off Activity, for example, or move the sections around (I don't care about achievements)). And make the right part in collection view more informative instead of graphic. I don't mind the covers, but why not give a view that resembles the list view people used to use?
Of course such eventualities need to be adressed in an EULA, but people also need to read the clauses in their context instead of the apocalyptic read it's usually made of them (IMO fueled by news sites eager to fuel fires to get clicks, which usually don't help)
There needs to be a better understanding of how EULAs work. And that starts by actually reading them, which should happen way more often.
Except constructive criticism and suggestions have actually turned into changes in the new UI.
If Valve 'didn't want to listen to any kind of reason' The new UI would have never had a small mode, or toggles for reduced network usage of the content, or other changes that were implemented since its addition.
Maybe it's just '♥♥♥♥ it, I don't wanna' isn't constructive criticism. And maybe that sentiment isn't really that common amongst the userbase as to rollback an update the size of the new UI.
When the new library gives spoilers for games without caring about the user playing the game, and with no way to turn it off if they come from friends feed in THE LIBRARY, I wouldn't say it's a matter of like or dislike as much as I would say it's something that needs a fix. Would you like it if the guy you showed your movie ticket to told you about what happens in the movie you are about to go watch?
Nope. Well, someone managed to get a old client version from 2014 to run BUT it basically has no Steam functions. You cant even download or install games, multiplayer games dont work, many games dont start and so on since the data servers are not working with that old version.
Its time to arrange yourself with the new UI, even IF you should get a older version to run, every new update will make the old one more and more unusable and more and more features will not work.
Oh I don't need internet, I can just make a VM with the new steam version to be used just for TF2 and use the old steam client for my Paradox games and jury rig the workshop files onto it, thanks.
But still tho why hasn't Valve given the option to revert? There is an obvious majority of people who don't like the changes.
What about the fact that we like the design of the old one and just don't want it changed? Small mode gets rid of practically everything, whereas the old one had everything we wanted in the right places and it had no problems. See the difference? One has nothing, whereas the other has what is desired and with no problems. Sure small mode gets rid of the problems that you can't otherwise get rid of, such as unwanted spoilers and "What's New", but it doesn't have what is desired.
To provide an analogy:
It's like the breakfast menu at a dorm school's cafeteria changing from selling jam on toast to butter on toast. Instead of being allowed to leave the school premises to make your own breakfast or the cafeteria just selling both products, you are instead forced to either have butter on toast, which you are allergic to, or not have anything on your toast at all, which makes for an incredibly dull and dry breakfast.
This new library is like that; all or nothing. All problems and all features (likeable ones and not, mostly latter), or no problems and no features. The old one had likeable features and no problems. In that case, why would I ever want the new one? There is no redeeming quality to it for me. Plenty of problems that have yet to be fixed other than using small mode, and no likeable features to me.
Actually, I'm using the old library. It's from 2019 and it can do all the things you say the 2014 version can't.
It's also not a majority. Keep in mind that it's a minority of the userbase that posts on these and reddits forum (as examples) and from that minority an even smaller minority is against the new UI.
In the same way why certain performance problems problems haven't been addressed. They are across the board, not specifically to low end specs and such, so they probably don't exactly know where the bloated RAM comes from for people.
The majority actually lives in "I don't give a crap and just play my games" land. Which probably is the most relaxed place to be in. :D
Or maybe they just won't bother complaining on the forums for whatever reason. Just like how most people that want equal rights for black people don't actually take part in protests for black people's rights.
But I really liked the old UI, I shouldn't have to be forced into this new one just because am the minority then