Steam is really money hungry
before you buy a game on this platform look at some other place's steam really up charge the prices for no reason for old or new even for a 5 or 8 year old game they well still charge 59.99 usd and when they do deals you're not really getting a deal you are just paying a price thats fare.

(i'm gonna write some more about this and call them to see why are they really doing this)

(i kinda feel like there scamming then anything)

(and is this fare to the buyer who spends money on here?):retreat:
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Mad Scientist 29/mai./2020 às 20:41 
Escrito originalmente por cSg|mc-Hotsauce:
Escrito originalmente por SacrosanctusSableoninus:
Oh well I didn't know that (he's talking about G2 A btw) I read reviews recently explaining that it's legit now and used to be bad(i guess this is what they were talking about). Plus sellers have ratings so you can have a better chance of knowing if stolen keys are a risk.

Quote the post to get the link and read the article...

{LINK REMOVIDO}

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Wasn't there a lot of asterisks and other notations such as "limited to two instances"? Or did they recently decide to take full responsibility.
TheRandomGuy 29/mai./2020 às 21:46 
Escrito originalmente por Elite Coral.EXE:
+=+ even when it's deals? like if you're gonna but rainbow 6 on steam they are charging 19.99 usd but if you buy it on epic game's it's 9.99 usd

It actually is still 19.99 on Epic, Epic just does coupons they pay for themselves. Ubisoft still gets 19.99 for R6 Siege.

Valve cannot really force publishers to set prices, neither can Epic.

Valve does do coupons as well though, just in their summer / winter sales, and we've got about a month left before the Steam Summer Sale hits, whereas Epic did theirs a few days ago.
Zaskar 29/mai./2020 às 23:51 
Escrito originalmente por SacrosanctusSableoninus:
Oh well I didn't know that (he's talking about - btw) I read reviews recently explaining that it's legit now and used to be bad(i guess this is what they were talking about). Plus sellers have ratings so you can have a better chance of knowing if stolen keys are a risk.


That site never was and will never be legit. They very recently admitted to have stolen keys sold through their website. Some developpers even said in the past that they would prefer to have players pirate their games instead of buying them on this website.

This website is not legit and all the keys you buy on it can be revoked at any time.
Ganger 30/mai./2020 às 0:23 
The thing about games and gaming these days, is that you can shop around and pick up a cheaper copy elsewhere. Many sites sell steam keys cheaper than steam, both legit and non-legit sites (take you chance with later tho). Plus sometimes games may be sold on another PC store for cheaper... it's not like the choice isn't there.

I always shop were its cheaper these days, I even subscribe to xbox games pass and EA access to play my games because in the long run, im saving money. Money better spend on my house (old person way of thinking).
Halo 30/mai./2020 às 1:18 
You aren't going to get any sympathy on here, Steam is totally blameless for everything, it is the evil publishers.

The fact that any savvy gamer can go and find a game somewhere else like Fanatical or any other legitimate key retailer for a fraction of the price - even more so in a bundle - than it is on here is just an aside.

Even when there is a 75% 'sale'.

Ocassionally they do a very good deal that even I get, but that is maybe once every year or two.

People who buy on Steam do so out of loyalty even if they can buy a key for a 10th of the price somewhere else legitimately.

They call it loyalty, I would call it something else.

Última edição por Halo; 30/mai./2020 às 1:23
Sombra 30/mai./2020 às 1:30 
steam has 0 control of prices, publishers decide to have a 6 year old game at $60
Ganger 30/mai./2020 às 2:34 
Escrito originalmente por Halo:
People who buy on Steam do so out of loyalty even if they can buy a key for a 10th of the price somewhere else legitimately.

They call it loyalty, I would call it something else.

Loyalty is a strong bond not easy broken. Anyway what would you call it m8 ?

I have a story that happen only a few weeks ago on the GTA 5 forums.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/271590/discussions/0/4111168970111060262/?ctp=4

This user bought GTA 5 on steam for full price despite epic giving GTA 5 away for free. Just because he doesn't like epic. Now this is the kind of customer any business wants to hold on too.
Sweet Tooth 30/mai./2020 às 2:51 
Escrito originalmente por Ganger:
This user bought GTA 5 on steam for full price despite epic giving GTA 5 away for free. Just because he doesn't like epic. Now this is the kind of customer any business wants to hold on too.
Haters gonna hate. You said he bought game on Steam because he doesnt like EGS, right? Not because he's loyal to Steam.
And even if some people may be loyal to Steam, Steam is loyal to noone. I'm here since 2007, and had experience of that. You can say it by me using less than 1 year old account - with over 1k games. Steam took my prevous account (Steam itself, it wasnt stolen or something) and i rebuild library + purchace new games
Ganger 30/mai./2020 às 3:10 
Escrito originalmente por kasmemoro:
Haters gonna hate. You said he bought game on Steam because he doesnt like EGS, right? Not because he's loyal to Steam.

You sound like a lawyer in court lol. I been on steam since 2003, was loyal at one time to steam but over the years I started to realise that steam wasn't loyal to me. Then my mindset changed and realised I must look out for number one, me. If I can buy something cheaper at another shop I will do.

This way of think, I must of saved tens of thousands of UK pounds over the years buying items, products, games, clothes, even cars from different places instead of my favourite shop due to stupid loyalty.
Halo 30/mai./2020 às 3:12 
Escrito originalmente por kasmemoro:
And even if some people may be loyal to Steam, Steam is loyal to noone. I'm here since 2007, and had experience of that.

I bought Half Life in 2003, so have twice the Steam 'experience' than you do.

And yet I can go to any other retail site most days and find more innovation and interest than I do in multiple years here.

The last most notable thing I can think of that happened on Steam was L4D2 for for free Christmas 2013.

7 years ago is the last noteworthy thing - other than dud event participation - that I associate with this platform.

And as for blind tribal loyalty - a terrible blight on Mankind that cause so much death and misery across the world throughout history.

All you have to do is look at most regions of the world to see what it did in the past and still does today in places like the Middle East.

I hate the EGS so much I paid ten times the price of Far Cry 4 on Steam to give one to Epic Games.

That really tawt em!
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Ganger 30/mai./2020 às 3:17 
Escrito originalmente por Halo:

I hate the EGS so much I paid ten times the price of Far Cry 4 on Steam to give one to Epic Games.

LOL, that'll shown em. Ubisoft is laughing all the way to the bank.
Sweet Tooth 30/mai./2020 às 3:26 
Escrito originalmente por Halo:
Escrito originalmente por kasmemoro:
And even if some people may be loyal to Steam, Steam is loyal to noone. I'm here since 2007, and had experience of that.

I bought Half Life in 2003, so have twice the Steam 'experience' than you do.

I hate the EGS so much I paid ten times the price of Far Cry 4 on Steam to give one to Epic Games.

That really tawt em!
4 years difference is not twice from 13 years long :)

Btw, reminds me of people who purchace iphones to break those because doesnt like USA :)
Halo 30/mai./2020 às 3:31 
Irony doesn't translate in text.

a) I did what I said

b) I have better things to spend money on, have no loyalty to corporate institutions and pocketed the £45 difference

I like to let people choose their own reality, so either is good for me.
Kargor 30/mai./2020 às 3:48 
Escrito originalmente por Halo:
The fact that any savvy gamer can go and find a game somewhere else like Fanatical or any other legitimate key retailer for a fraction of the price - even more so in a bundle - than it is on here is just an aside.

Even when there is a 75% 'sale'.

Ocassionally they do a very good deal that even I get, but that is maybe once every year or two.

Actually, the Steam store gets pretty good deals as well, sometimes. Not likely to happen on the huge summer/Christmas sales; outside of titles that probably can't or don't want to afford it, discounts tend to be worse on these (in my experience, anyway).

I've also had cases where a discount improved on other stores, and then Steam got the same one slightly *later*. And, of course, there are games that aren't sold through other shops at all.

When I got my "first" (real) game on Steam, which actually was a DVD with a Steam key from Amazon, I was kind of "angry" with myself, thinking I could have gotten the game even cheaper on Steam directly (because no DVD, no packaging, no storage place, no shipping). Turns out, the game was priced at SRP in the Steam store; I quickly learned that online stores always have SRP prices unless they put games on a sale, whereas cheap DVD games are basically always on sale.

With that in mind, I don't even look at game prices outside of sales. I'm not interested in pre-ordering or getting bugged+incomplete games at launch day anyway; I've always gotten games rather late in their lifetime.

Escrito originalmente por ✟S0mbra✟:
steam has 0 control of prices, publishers decide to have a 6 year old game at $60

Which is perfectly fine. If a lot of people buy it outside of sales at $60, then it's the best move the publisher could have made. If people only buy it on sales, then it's something the publisher just accepts. If people don't buy it at all because they think even the sales price is too high, the publisher is just stupid. If the game doesn't even go on sales, maybe the guy responsible for it left and nobody took over :-)

It's on them, though. They should know the basics of how pricing affects sales numbers, and part of their job should be to find the sweet spot that maximizes the revenue. Which is also a moving target, as people that are willing to spend more will also pay less, so you have to start high and find the appropriate times to go lower.
Última edição por Kargor; 30/mai./2020 às 3:50
Halo 30/mai./2020 às 3:56 
Escrito originalmente por Kargor:
With that in mind, I don't even look at game prices outside of sales.

'Sales' are something akin to broadcast television - only a small out of touch minority actually wait to use either and haven't for 5+ years.

Once there was one key retailer and you had to wait for a scheduled event to get games at a discount.

Yes the events were massive and I used to look up the leaked dates of when they started, again 5+ years ago now.

Now and for quite a while, there are so many quality online game retailers that most games are 'on sale' on rotation.

You don't look at them when Steam tells you to now, you simply look at the sites regularly - I look around once a week - because they change so quickly.

Which is where my analogy about broadcast television comes in - you can stick to whatever your local terrestrial/satellite broadcaster wants you to watch when they want you to watch or you could subscribe to a reasonably priced streaming service and watch what you want when you want.

Even if you choose not to subscribe you could have had a PVR for over 20 years to record your own library to watch when you want and not when they choose to broadcast it.

Christmas used to be a time for blockbuster film premieres, for quite a while it is now just broadcasting what everyone has already seen on streaming.

If you choose to live in a dictatorial monopoly old world - fine by me, personally I like the new consumer choice one that I live in.
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