are you worried that The ADL wants to push Steam to increase censorship guidelines severity?

[Kzual]

I just watched youtuber TheQuartering's video from Apr. 18th about the Anti-Defamation League wanting to push tech companies like Valve to increase their control over speech on the game they offer on their platform. does this worry you?

[endrsgm]

Originalmente postado por Radene:

Originalmente postado por endrsgm:

so what? each time something is coopted by a group we don't like we abandon whatever it was?
and what about the ok sign? adl decided that wasn't OK either. remember? ready to give that up?

I'm not. I dont surrender it to anyone. sorry. no compromises with nazis and no compromises with fear mongering control freaks.

How about surrendering to a court order after the IP holder claimed copyright infringement?

i dont think ive ever posted or used the pepe for anything. im not a meme kind of guy. for the ok sign ... they can try. whos the ip holder on the ok sign? go on ... ill wait ...

[Shmoltzy]

The ADL and the SPLC are both extortionist groups, pure and simple. Hopefully Valve and the community here on Steam will just ignore these scumbags. It seems like the ADL is just looking for a nice fat “donation.” Either way, no need to worry. Honestly, just let this topic drift off into the void as talking about their article and getting worked up over it is exactly what they’d want you to do anyway.

[Ridley]

Couldn't care less, it's above my pay grade. I keep a low profile both online and IRL anyway.

[Xautos]

Originalmente postado por Kzual:

I just watched youtuber TheQuartering's video from Apr. 18th about the Anti-Defamation League wanting to push tech companies like Valve to increase their control over speech on the game they offer on their platform. does this worry you?

Originalmente postado por ShelLuser:

No, because there wasn't any free speech on Steam to begin with.

Originalmente postado por Anne Frankenstein:

Valve can already deny any game for any reason. This is a private website, not the public square. The Quartering is nothing but a grifter for angry gamer types.

For the same reasons described by these users, i'm of like mind. ADL won't gain any traction on Valve and neither is it their place to try force change on others or risk running their own morals off a cliff by being the opposite they represent, which is mostly political these days.

[ezwip]

Originalmente postado por crunchyfrog:

Originalmente postado por ezwip:

They already banned Pepe.

And misinformation and myths like this are why idiots like idealogues fall for simple emotional appeals.

As long as it gets them riled up, they avoid doing the base things like FACT CHECKING.

Which you could have done before posting this, as copyright is NOT censorship in any stretch.

I just stated a truth, the character is banned. You can dress it up and put lipstick on that statement if you desire to do so of course.

[Aachen]

Who banned it, from where, and how, then?

Why can’t Matt Furie use it?

[indio68]

i hate all form of censorship and i hate all these pseudo association like MOIGE or similar

[ezwip]

Originalmente postado por Aachen:

Who banned it, from where, and how, then?

Why can’t Matt Furie use it?

I paid for it and I can't use it so it's banned for me. Why do you have to play semantics what's the problem guy?

[Aachen]

Originalmente postado por ezwip:

I paid for it and I can't use it so it's banned for me. Why do you have to play semantics what's the problem guy?

Evasion, instead, I see.

You bought the IP from Furie?

[zaphodikus]

Not worried. Steam supports regional distro, and the ADL has pull in very few countries.

Besides, it's a market economy, if a cool game is not on Steam because the ADL says it cannot be, guess who will be moaning the loadest? That is also why steam has ratings for each game to assist us all in this area.

I don't think many people even know what the ADL is, so to say they have power is probably an overstatement, and thus does not worry most of us.

[Mad Scientist]

The TL;DR:
Especially during the c-virus, demands and outrage culture are being told to sit down, be quiet, mind your own business and grow a spine.

The long version:
This whole c-virus bit has actually severely damaged people/groups/entities that are attempting to exert control over others for what they personally dislike or perceive as an offense especially if within any given group/company/service/entity they see something they hate. Though, people especially in this lockdown time are sick and tired of people attempting to control them, and people that had platforms to shout from or punch at others with their offended attitude are being told to sit down and shutup.

ADL is attempting to bite at people, but now they're just some over-glorified citation source for people offended by things, used as a weapon for people that perceive offense where it's almost always a lack of understanding online culture and mockery; especially that people will defy whatever they label as "hate" or "offensive" because of how they are very much just another puppet of people that want to control everything that has any different perception of reality or views/politics.

They no longer have any sway except in spineless companies, or people that just don't want to report the completely hostile and outright illegal behavior of people that harass companies and their workers whenever they label something as "hate" or "offensive" whenever it's present at a targeted company or forbid any one person working for the company use something like pepe just to mock them or their political zombie followers.

[longgoneby]

Just your friendly reminder the ADL was specifically made to cover someone who abducted a child and brutally murdered her.

[cs8492]

My humble opinion is that the ADL are race hustlers looking to be partners and community policy makers similar to the way they were made so on sites like FaceBook, YouTube, and Twitter. It serves to push their moral puritanism (see politics) similar to the way Christian Conservatives did in the 90's. They are no better then the alt right they claim to dispise. ♥♥♥♥ them.

[endrsgm]

wow.
actually I think the outrage culture has gotten more vocal and is still taking plenty of scalps. the world changed to where its full of whiney little +!? %/.
correct response is the middle finger to it all...

[cs8492]

Originalmente postado por endrsgm:

wow.
actually I think the outrage culture has gotten more vocal and is still taking plenty of scalps. the world changed to where its full of whiney little +!? %/.
correct response is the middle finger to it all...

This is the best response til' they harass your employer and get you fired for daring to think differently. The outrage mob is dangerous to peaceful coexistance. They want people to adapt to their way or die. The normal person is caught in the crossfire.