60Hz/Vsync on or off

[brimck87]

Hello Their

I have a Samsung 4k monitor which runs at 60Hz-would it be pointless for me
To turn Vsync off to get more frame rates in games-would I not notice any difference
If I turn on Vsync I am capped at 60fps- if I turn it off I can between 80-150fps depending on
The game I play-but the fans spin up and can become loud.

[cuckchair bradley]

Vsync isn't good. You may see screen tearing and your fan will be loud, but its better than Vsync because it can hurt your CPU and its not very suggested.

[Chill-Out-Zone]

Vsync makes the tearing less; but U use more GPU power.

[Zekiran]

Generally Vsync is garbage anyway, I wouldn't bother with it and tend to turn it off if there's an option.

But yeah if your monitor is only 60hz, that's it: that's all that will EVER be displayed. So make sure to cap your games or use your video card's options to cap your card at it, so that it doesn't try too hard to do something you can't ever see on that monitor.

[Edifier]

Originally posted by hybriddawg:

Vsync isn't good. You may see screen tearing and your fan will be loud, but its better than Vsync because it can hurt your CPU and its not very suggested. :Doomsday:

WHAT?

Vsync can hurt your CPU? What? That's some first grade bullcrap you've made up.

You have a bigger time hurting the CPU by making the game go unlimited FPS and overwork the hell out of the CPU and GPU. Unless you can cool them down enough.

Originally posted by Bjørn:

Vsync makes the tearing less; but U use more GPU power.

Screen tearing is gone with Vsync on, the GPU is barely affected. You'd use more power by just turning off Vsync and going unlimited.

[Ogami]

Originally posted by Bjørn:

Vsync makes the tearing less; but U use more GPU power.

Originally posted by hybriddawg:

Vsync isn't good. You may see screen tearing and your fan will be loud, but its better than Vsync because it can hurt your CPU and its not very suggested. :Doomsday:

Jesus Christ, if you dont have ANY clue what you are talking about, please dont bother posting.

Originally posted by Zekiran:

Generally Vsync is garbage anyway, I wouldn't bother with it and tend to turn it off if there's an option.

This is also stupid. Vsync is very useful, especially if you dont want constant screen tearing in many games nor constant maximum performance load of your CPU/GPU.
There are many many games where its beneficial to turn Vsync on to lock the game FPS to your monitor refresh rate.
Especially if your monitor cant even display higher framerates.

Of course its preferable to use Gsync or Freesync because those eliminate the input lag you may experience in some games with Vsync.
But calling Vsync "garbage" just shows that you dont really know how it works or what its for.

[J4MESOX4D]

If there is obvious tearing then I would turn it on but if there isn't then let the frames fly. I've had some horrific tearing in some old games and v-sync has really saved the day.

[reg1s7]

Is VSync increasing CPU/GPU work compared to just using fps_max 60?

[SuperTim]

Always use VSync (limits) on, this always gives the smoothest experience.

Unless you live in a fridge with no other heating available, it's a good way to heat up your room.

*After a bit of googling/duckduckgo-ing, it seems that in Windows, playing a game inside a window, you will always get a triple buffering experience. So, if you are playing in a window, then it really doesn't matter.

[Pocahawtness]

Originally posted by brimck87:

Hello Their

I have a Samsung 4k monitor which runs at 60Hz-would it be pointless for me
To turn Vsync off to get more frame rates in games-would I not notice any difference
If I turn on Vsync I am capped at 60fps- if I turn it off I can between 80-150fps depending on
The game I play-but the fans spin up and can become loud.

I think you are confusing the refresh rate of the monitor and the frame rate of your graphics card. Although settings may restrict one or other depending on the game, the two are separate.

There are pros and cons to various settings but the purist fps gamer will insist that vsync is off and framerate is as high as possible. This is to maximise the speed at which information gets on that screen. Who cares about tearing as long as that enemy is dead!

Personally I hate tearing so for me it was always a good idea to have vsync on. A very serious issue with this is if your graphics card struggles to supply frames at any point then you will miss the refresh and the graphics card has to wait to the next one, meaning that it can suddenly drop your wonderful screen from 60hz to 30hz and so on. So really, vsync is great but its very important to maintain your framerate at or above 60hz.

You are right, anything above 60hz is fairly unnecessary and recent nvidia drivers have included a global framerate limit to stop your graphics card running away with itself.

I actually use freesync, which is better than vsync in that it avoids the sudden drop I described before, but i limit the framerate to stop the card using too much power and making too much heat and noise.

The choice is yours. There is no right way or wrong way, just try it and see which you prefer.

[Muppet among Puppets]

I use vsync to not have wasted calculating.

You dont miss anything and dont have tearing.

[Kargor]

I always enable VSync if it's offered, to avoid tearing.

[nullable]

I never liked screen tearing. Vsync eliminates screen tearing. The arguments for the deficiencies of Vsync have never made tolerating screen tearing a worthwhile trade off for me. Modern sync technologies are nicer so I do prefer those, but I'd still use Vsync if that was the only option.

[Edifier]

Originally posted by 🍏EvanS_3826:

Is VSync increasing CPU/GPU work compared to just using fps_max 60?

It is minimal if anything. But if you could run a game on 100+ FPS it's going to stay at 60 FPS at all times. If anything it'll just keep temperatures down due to not pushing it above 100 FPS.

There is though a thing you can do to get some extra FPS out of your monitor. You can "overclock" and make it go like 5 FPS faster. Nvidia settings allows you to put in a custom resolution and in there, there is an option for Hz. You can't overclock it too much but most monitors can do 5 Hz more. When I tested with 10 Hz more it was a bit too much and all that happened was that my monitor turned itself off and after like 5 or 10 seconds it came back on with the previous settings asking if the Hz was working or not. It didn't so I pressed no.

Vsync still keeps it at 65 FPS too so that's neato. No screen tearing at all.

You can google on monitor overclocking if you want to read more on it.

[brimck87]

thank's for all your advice-its much appreciated

[Jamebonds1]

No sense to use v syncs.

Originally posted by hybriddawg:

Vsync isn't good. You may see screen tearing and your fan will be loud, but its better than Vsync because it can hurt your CPU and its not very suggested. :Doomsday:

Not true.