NO! You are not getting my address!

[Mushroom Mike]

I have been buying games on steam regularly. Now all of a sudden I am required to divulge personal information to buy games like my home address. NO NO NO! If that's how it's going to be I'll buy my games somewhere else! My home address is private information that is nobodies business. Totally unnecessary. (And by the way the spelling check doesn't work on the client.)
If this is how it's going to be I will not buy any more games from steam.

[WolfEisberg]

Цитата допису the.jester:

Цитата допису Eisberg:

Only if you want it to. I have bought so many games, and my Epic account still does not have my name, billing address, nor payment method stored.

What method of payment do you use?

I use Paypal

[󠀡󠀡󠀡⁧⁧the.jester]

Цитата допису Eisberg:

Цитата допису the.jester:

What method of payment do you use?

I use Paypal

There you go. If you use paypal on steam too, you don't need to supply your address either.

[WolfEisberg]

Цитата допису Kusa:

Цитата допису Eisberg:

Only if you want it to. I have bought so many games, and my Epic account still does not have my name, billing address, nor payment method stored.

You are required to provide that information when you first setup an account as your email address verifies the account and your name and address verifies your payment method.

Whether you choose to store the information does not remove the fact that the information is required when making a purchase.

I use Paypal on both Steam and Epic and never see my name and address when making a purchase but it still exists in the background due to verification.

Epic Account: https://postimg.cc/CdCKxtsY

Epic Payment: https://postimg.cc/v1XzyX2v

Nope.

I signed up using Google, it put my first/last name as what it is for my Google account, which isn't my real name. I did not give Epic my address at all, nor does Paypal share my address with Epic.

As for payment method, it only saves payment method if you choose to save it, which I do not have it save it.

Epic does not have my real name and address at all, nor have my payment method.

[JG | Luxe]

Цитата допису Eisberg:

Цитата допису Kusa:

You are required to provide that information when you first setup an account as your email address verifies the account and your name and address verifies your payment method.

Whether you choose to store the information does not remove the fact that the information is required when making a purchase.

I use Paypal on both Steam and Epic and never see my name and address when making a purchase but it still exists in the background due to verification.

Epic Account: https://postimg.cc/CdCKxtsY

Epic Payment: https://postimg.cc/v1XzyX2v

Nope.

I signed up using Google, it put my first/last name as what it is for my Google account, which isn't my real name. I did not give Epic my address at all, nor does Paypal share my address with Epic.

As for payment method, it only saves payment method if you choose to save it, which I do not have it save it.

Epic does not have my real name and address at all, nor have my payment method.

Bro, are you special? The address is not shared to the company you're purchasing it from. The only reason billing address is required, is to verify with the card to see if you're doing fraud or if it's really you.

Of course paypal doesn't give Epic your address, Epic doesn't need it.

Steam doesn't need it either if you use paypal, but if you use a debit or credit card, they ask for it for the same reason paypal does.

Oh my god.

[Nx Machina]

Цитата допису Eisberg:

Цитата допису Kusa:

You are required to provide that information when you first setup an account as your email address verifies the account and your name and address verifies your payment method.

Whether you choose to store the information does not remove the fact that the information is required when making a purchase.

I use Paypal on both Steam and Epic and never see my name and address when making a purchase but it still exists in the background due to verification.

Epic Account: https://postimg.cc/CdCKxtsY

Epic Payment: https://postimg.cc/v1XzyX2v

Nope.

I signed up using Google, it put my first/last name as what it is for my Google account, which isn't my real name. I did not give Epic my address at all, nor does Paypal share my address with Epic.

As for payment method, it only saves payment method if you choose to save it, which I do not have it save it.

Epic does not have my real name and address at all, nor have my payment method.

You missed SETUP an ACCOUNT which is not the same as signing with Google.

If you sign up via Epic the information is stored and required.

If you use Google it has all the information for signing on. Google is a tool.

If you use Paypal for payment it has all the information, name, address, bank account details etc. for easier verification and payment. Paypal is a tool.

At no point was sharing information mentioned nor is required when using Paypal on sites which allow you to do so.

If you use another payment method because Paypal is not an option then you have to provide name and address to verify the payment method.

[WolfEisberg]

Цитата допису JG | Luxe:

Цитата допису Eisberg:

Nope.

I signed up using Google, it put my first/last name as what it is for my Google account, which isn't my real name. I did not give Epic my address at all, nor does Paypal share my address with Epic.

As for payment method, it only saves payment method if you choose to save it, which I do not have it save it.

Epic does not have my real name and address at all, nor have my payment method.

Bro, are you special? The address is not shared to the company you're purchasing it from. The only reason billing address is required, is to verify with the card to see if you're doing fraud or if it's really you.

Of course paypal doesn't give Epic your address, Epic doesn't need it.

Steam doesn't need it either if you use paypal, but if you use a debit or credit card, they ask for it for the same reason paypal does.

Oh my god.

Steam asks for address if you are using Wallet funds, you know the money that Valve already has? They also ask for full address for other kinds of payment methods that are not credit/debit card and where no address is shared with the payment processor either, on Epic they only ask for postal code if you are using one of the other exotic payment methods.

Valve does not need to ask for full address for tax purposes, postal code is good enough.

[WolfEisberg]

Цитата допису Kusa:

Цитата допису Eisberg:

Nope.

I signed up using Google, it put my first/last name as what it is for my Google account, which isn't my real name. I did not give Epic my address at all, nor does Paypal share my address with Epic.

As for payment method, it only saves payment method if you choose to save it, which I do not have it save it.

Epic does not have my real name and address at all, nor have my payment method.

You missed SETUP an ACCOUNT which is not the same as signing with Google.

If you sign up via Epic the information is stored and required.

If you use Google it has all the information for signing on. Google is a tool.

If you use Paypal for payment it has all the information, name, address, bank account details etc. for easier verification and payment. Paypal is a tool.

At no point was sharing information mentioned nor is required when using Paypal on sites which allow you to do so.

If you use another payment method because Paypal is not an option then you have to provide name and address to verify the payment method.

If you sign up with Epic with email, then just name and email is required, no address.

If you use a non credit/debit card payment method, that isn't paypal, even exotic ones where no address information is given to the payment processor, Epic still only asks for postal code.

On Steam, even if you bought a gift card from a local store and put that gift card on your Steam wallet, Valve still asks for full address in order to use those funds, and they don't need to, they can simply ask for postal code for tax purposes.

[muckymucks]

Цитата допису Mushroom Mike:

The government shouldn't be checking every online purchase I make. These are the markings of a totalitarian state!

Calm down, snowflake.

[muckymucks]

AM I BEING DETAINED?!

[Nx Machina]

Цитата допису Eisberg:

Valve does not need to ask for full address for tax purposes, postal code is good enough.

Your postal code is linked to an address and house number, which in turn links your bank account, payment method etc. Have you tried to open a bank account or apply for a credit card without providing all the information.

Every online retailer including Steam pays VAT to the correct Tax Authority due to the law and you cannot buy an item without providing information for verification of the details in other words by proving it it is you doing the purchase.

[WolfEisberg]

Цитата допису Kusa:

Цитата допису Eisberg:

Valve does not need to ask for full address for tax purposes, postal code is good enough.

Your postal code is linked to an address and house number, which in turn links your bank account, payment method etc. Have you tried to open a bank account or apply for a credit card without providing all the information.

Every online retailer including Steam pays VAT to the correct Tax Authority due to the law and you cannot buy an item without providing information for verification of the details in other words by proving it it is you doing the purchase.

Postal code does not have your address/house number on it.

I used to live in Denver Co, with the postal code of 80238. Thousand upon thousands of people in that area have that zip code, you cant find me just using that zip code.

Applying for credit/bank account is not relevant here.

Valve doesn't need full address to determine VAT, they can, again, just ask for postal code. For example, if someone is in Germany they can just simply provide the postal code, which is between 10115 and 14199, no need for full address.

On my VUDU account, I only ever use Vudo gift cards, guess what? Vudu does not have my full address, only my zip code, they have never asked me for my full address to use a gift card, yet Steam asks for full address to use a gift card.

Valve is going above what is needed, they do not need to ask for full address for tax purposes, a postal code is sufficient for tax purposes.

[JG | Luxe]

Цитата допису Eisberg:

Цитата допису Kusa:

Your postal code is linked to an address and house number, which in turn links your bank account, payment method etc. Have you tried to open a bank account or apply for a credit card without providing all the information.

Every online retailer including Steam pays VAT to the correct Tax Authority due to the law and you cannot buy an item without providing information for verification of the details in other words by proving it it is you doing the purchase.

Postal code does not have your address/house number on it.

I used to live in Denver Co, with the postal code of 80238. Thousand upon thousands of people in that area have that zip code, you cant find me just using that zip code.

Applying for credit/bank account is not relevant here.

Valve doesn't need full address to determine VAT, they can, again, just ask for postal code. For example, if someone is in Germany they can just simply provide the postal code, which is between 10115 and 14199, no need for full address.

On my VUDU account, I only ever use Vudo gift cards, guess what? Vudu does not have my full address, only my zip code, they have never asked me for my full address to use a gift card, yet Steam asks for full address to use a gift card.

Valve is going above what is needed, they do not need to ask for full address for tax purposes, a postal code is sufficient for tax purposes.

You must be doing some highly illegal things if you're scared to hand out billing information.

[WolfEisberg]

Цитата допису JG | Luxe:

Цитата допису Eisberg:

Postal code does not have your address/house number on it.

I used to live in Denver Co, with the postal code of 80238. Thousand upon thousands of people in that area have that zip code, you cant find me just using that zip code.

Applying for credit/bank account is not relevant here.

Valve doesn't need full address to determine VAT, they can, again, just ask for postal code. For example, if someone is in Germany they can just simply provide the postal code, which is between 10115 and 14199, no need for full address.

On my VUDU account, I only ever use Vudo gift cards, guess what? Vudu does not have my full address, only my zip code, they have never asked me for my full address to use a gift card, yet Steam asks for full address to use a gift card.

Valve is going above what is needed, they do not need to ask for full address for tax purposes, a postal code is sufficient for tax purposes.

You must be doing some highly illegal things if you're scared to hand out billing information.

Its more about the less place your information is at, the less likely it will get leaked due to a hack.

[Nx Machina]

Цитата допису Eisberg:

I used to live in Denver Co, with the postal code of 80238. Thousand upon thousands of people in that area have that zip code, you cant find me just using that zip code.

Neither could the postman delivering your mail, nor Amazon without a name and address.

Amazon requires your address for physical and digital. If you only order Kindle books they still need it. Why? because your payment method is linked to your name and address, which in turn is relevant as to why your bank also needs those details to create an account and allow you do do transactions physical and digital.

All online retailers require verification of the payment method via name and address linked to those payment methods. All online retailers pay VAT where appropriate. Epic, Origin, Battlenet, Rockstar, GOG, Amazon, even keysites such as CDkeys, pay VAT and pass it on to the relevant Tax Authority.

[Nx Machina]

Цитата допису Eisberg:

Its more about the less place your information is at, the less likely it will get leaked due to a hack.

Then you need to worry about ALL places on the net you have given YOUR information rather than Steam alone. The most important one been your bank where your money is stored.