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Turd King 22. März 2019 um 10:57

Steam better worry.

So for the past 6 months now I have been hit with data overages by Scamcast now. And it seems with games regularly breaking 100 GB a game soon I wont be able to use steam as often.

So I've now made the choice to have to stop buying Steam digital games and start buying physical copies again.

Wake up steam do some lobbying like the rest of these scam♥♥♥♥♥companies.

My Rant.

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nullable 22. März 2019 um 20:50

Steam is a successful company, but they're not successful enough to strongarm Comcast or other providers any more than they could strongarm developers to make games smaller. You're better off changing ISPs, or managing your data usage differently.

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magelord01 23. März 2019 um 0:52

Maybe lay low until 5G sees nationwide deployment.

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Zaskar 23. März 2019 um 0:54

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Turd King:

That I do understand but with me I do tend to download play a game then delete it somewhat often if Im not playing it and yes this does burn through data, but I own the game I should be able to download and delete it as much as I want we own our game but the digtal trend that is steam is being impacted by this kind of data cap, yes maybe not in sales or whatever but this is a problem I feel.

Also In a home with 6 avid internet users me doing the above mentioned, others always watching youtube or netflix often burning multiple hours a day of streaming at 3gb per hour it adds up.

So again with the way tech is going I feel with more and more digital based goods, Steam netflix microsoft apple whatever should be doing more to stop our ISP from bottlenecking out internet.

You don't own any game. What you paid for is a licence, the right to play the game to put it simple. Downloading then uninstalling a game multiple times seems stupid to me if you have a data caps, tbh. Buy a new HDD/SSD if you're that short on disk space.

Also, it's more the consumers' job to rise up against those scams with ISP. Even if Valve complains to your ISP, I highly doubt that it would change anything.

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D3AD 23. März 2019 um 1:18

when you find out the only physical games you can actually buy anymore are made for console. but good luck not finding a game sold today taht WONT run updates even with a physical copy.... most physical copies you get are just a code to enter in x program to claim.

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#19

Pyrrhus 23. März 2019 um 1:45

Your best option is to drop Youtube usages. If Youtube don't like that, let them complain to Comcast. Or maybe they will pay extra fees for you.

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werhsre334 23. März 2019 um 2:10

It is a valid concern, with data caps becoming more and more common with the big ISP's sooner or later the big ISP's wills start to strangle the gaming platforms.

It's not valves fault, but it is going to be a problem for them.

...and it's also an issue with gamers, the rising prices of internet for people who don't have alot of money, could produce lower sales, which means, prices for video games go up.

I would imagine the gaming platforms are going to be the next group that will be "Netflixed" by comcast.

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Washell 23. März 2019 um 2:42

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Rogers Brother:
It is a valid concern, with data caps becoming more and more common with the big ISP's sooner or later the big ISP's wills start to strangle the gaming platforms.

An option they have thanks to the absence of competion. WIth 5G around the corner, and two or more companies actively developing LEO satellite networks, which performs better than terrestrial broadband, investing in their backbones and getting rid of the caps might be easier for them to swallow than lowering the price.

Anyway, the internet went through multiple stages like this. Companies launch a new bandwidth heavy service. Services gets popular where it can be used. Demand in other areas drives investment so the service can be used there too. It's a self-fixing problem.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Turd King:
Steam better worry.

It didn't worry them in 2003 when most people were still on dial-up, it won't worry them now.

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Crazy Tiger 23. März 2019 um 3:47

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Turd King:
That I do understand but with me I do tend to download play a game then delete it somewhat often if Im not playing it and yes this does burn through data, but I own the game I should be able to download and delete it as much as I want we own our game but the digtal trend that is steam is being impacted by this kind of data cap, yes maybe not in sales or whatever but this is a problem I feel.

You don't own a game. You own a license to play it, nothing more, nothing less. That also goes for physical copies, btw.

But why do you delete the games when you want to play them again in the future? Buy a bigger HDD and your problem is solved, so it seems.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Turd King:
So again with the way tech is going I feel with more and more digital based goods, Steam netflix microsoft apple whatever should be doing more to stop our ISP from bottlenecking out internet.

If you're unhappy with your ISP, it's up to you to do something. Switch ISPs or get a group consumers together. Don't expect the tech companies to do it, if you're the one that wants to "profit".

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Sleepy Yoshi 23. März 2019 um 4:03

I'm curious what you want from Valve here. I get you want them to exert some kind of pressure on them, but I think you're vastly overestimated the clout and power that Valve actually has.

Comcast is encroaching on 100 billion in revenue a year. Valve financially doesn't come remotely close to even being a blip on their radar. So they can't exert pressure monetarily and they can't exert it via an ultimatum i.e. voting with your wallet, like a consumer can. I'm just not seeing what you specifically want them to do.

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Cherrycat 23. März 2019 um 4:23

This whole thread sounds like a made up nonsense to try stir up some controversy.

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Herald_UK 23. März 2019 um 4:26

Just as soon as you find a disk that will fit 100Gig on it, let me know. Odds are you'll still be faced with downloading 95% of the data on a hard copy purchase... That is, unless they start selling games on memory sticks or something (lol)...

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Washell 23. März 2019 um 7:47

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Herald_UK:
Just as soon as you find a disk that will fit 100Gig on it, let me know.

A 6-layer BluRay BDXL can store 300GB. Are enough people going to buy BluRay players to make it worthwhile to release games on those? No.

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KiRA 23. März 2019 um 8:06

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Cherrycat:
This whole thread sounds like a made up nonsense to try stir up some controversy.

The hints are private profile and hes username.

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Herald_UK 23. März 2019 um 12:09

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Washell:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Herald_UK:
Just as soon as you find a disk that will fit 100Gig on it, let me know.
A 6-layer BluRay BDXL can store 300GB. Are enough people going to buy BluRay players to make it worthwhile to release games on those? No.

Get out ! Really ? I had no idea. That's me learned something today. Taa.

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