Stop Firewall rule creation

[Harekiet]

Can I get Steam to stop creating firewall rules for the games that I have installed. If I care to let games on in the internet I'll decide about that and not have steam create a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of useless rules.
Steam keep your grubby hands off my firewall

[AmsterdamHeavy]

Yes, stop doing it for you, so there will be 10,000 people that DONT know how to whitelist things here making threads.

Use your head.

[Tharon]

AmsterdamHeavy eredeti hozzászólása:

Yes, stop doing it for you, so there will be 10,000 people that DONT know how to whitelist things here making threads.

Use your head.

Use yours.
Firewalls have a meaning : give people the control on what data their sytem can send and receive. Having an application whitelist other application without notification or consent is a BAD thing.

Also there are a lot of games with spyware and integrated telemetry (all Unity games), and some user don't want those games call home or send data not related to their games.

[Theblaze]

The issue is you and your firewall.

[Tharon]

The issue is steam abusing our system.

When an application try to access a port, windows firewall ask if the application should be allowed. There is no reason at all to allow every garbage that shouldn't use the net at all.

[Wolfpig]

Are you sure that Steam is creating those rules, and not the Applications itself?


At least this line

If you install an application that does not automatically enable the required firewall rules, you will need to create the rules manually.

from here
https://www.microsoftpressstore.com/articles/article.aspx?p=2224362&seqNum=2

Sounds like Software developers can set it up thereself that the installer automatically creates the specific firewall settings.

[Si-Fi]

You peeps can't even spend a minute of your time just to keep your computer in safe hands?

It is not that hard to click a button and give the firewall application permission to let it past the gate.

[Tharon]

Wolfpig eredeti hozzászólása:

Are you sure that Steam is creating those rules, and not the Applications itself?

No, because after i have deleted all the firewall entries and launched some games, no one of them recreated the entry.

Then i download a game (Final Doom) but didn't launched it. Still a firewall entry is created allowing the game to comunicate in both private and public networks.

It's not the application, but Steam acting as a malware and tampering with our system without asking permission.

(For everyone arguing that Steam is not a malware, i'm not saying it's a malware. But it's acting like one doing this against the user will).

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Why is this not in the Suggestion forum?

[Wolfpig]

Tharon eredeti hozzászólása:

Wolfpig eredeti hozzászólása:

Are you sure that Steam is creating those rules, and not the Applications itself?

No, because after i have deleted all the firewall entries and launched some games, no one of them recreated the entry.

Then i download a game (Final Doom) but didn't launched it. Still a firewall entry is created allowing the game to comunicate in both private and public networks.

It's not the application, but Steam acting as a malware and tampering with our system without asking permission.

(For everyone arguing that Steam is not a malware, i'm not saying it's a malware. But it's acting like one doing this against the user will).

As im not sure....but those firewall entries an app/software sets are made when it gets installed (regardless if it is trough steam or if it is set in it trough an external install routine), not when the stuff is already installed and started.

[Muppet among Puppets]

When you remove a rule from the windows firewall, can the game not reach the internet anymore?
Isnt the windows wall "allow outgoing" default?

[Tharon]

Wolfpig eredeti hozzászólása:

Tharon eredeti hozzászólása:

No, because after i have deleted all the firewall entries and launched some games, no one of them recreated the entry.

Then i download a game (Final Doom) but didn't launched it. Still a firewall entry is created allowing the game to comunicate in both private and public networks.

It's not the application, but Steam acting as a malware and tampering with our system without asking permission.

(For everyone arguing that Steam is not a malware, i'm not saying it's a malware. But it's acting like one doing this against the user will).

As im not sure....but those firewall entries an app/software sets are made when it gets installed (regardless if it is trough steam or if it is set in it trough an external install routine), not when the stuff is already installed and started.

Yup, but there are not installers on the games on Steam. Steam IS the installer. So it's Steam to set all those rules without permission.

[Muppet among Puppets]

Windows firewall is a firewall that attempts to not block any of its millions of users, so they dont complain.
If you want a firewall that needs your interaction, probably choose another one.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

Let me get this straight, you're upset because when the game gets updated, it may get a new rule that became a huge problem for some reason, but you want to connect to the service that's using the new rule? Did I miss anything? Isn't that kind of contradicting?

Are you referring to single player games, or multiplayer games, there's a reason why multiplayer games get more updates, and added things, and it's all done by the Game dev.

If you want to deny access to an application, then I suggest either completely block the application from having internet access, or use another firewall that's able to do whatever dumb things you wanted to do to either mess with your protocols for the application. Example I know someone that blocks certain protocols, which affects VOIP for ingame, as well other services, because he didn't want data to go in, or out. If that the kind of thing you want to do, oh well, don't expect everything to go your way.

[Kargor]

Hm... I'm pretty sure I've seen alerts from Windows popping up when starting games with a multiplayer mode for the first time, asking me how to deal with them.

But this might depend on the game. Steam clearly can't know what kind of rules would be required for a game, so if Steam can add such rules, the developer would have to configure it. If they don't, nothing will be created and Windows will ask.

[Si-Fi]

Steam acts for itself, not for the games, so the games will act independently because they have their own executables otherwise how could the game run.

And Windows should create each entry into the firewall automatically.