Czech in games

[wesley]

Hello,
I don't know where to ask or say.
Today, steady support for world languages ​​is common.
English, German, French, Polish and others. In most games, these languages ​​are commonplace. Unfortunately, this is not the case with the Czech language. I pay the same money for the product at the same time as the others so there are no more products in my native language? (Czech Republic).
I have one example I have a son and he likes World of Warcraft, but unfortunately the game is not in Czech so it doesn't play as often as he wanted to see his eyes shining on the idea that the game would be in Czech. They are our neighbors and it is common for most games that Polish support is quite common. I think you might want to work on it.
with best regards, M.Wesley

Zdravím,
Nevím kam dotaz nebo spíš prozbu uvést.
V dnešní době je na steamu podpora světových jazyků ůplně běžná.
Angličtina,Němčina,Francouština,Polština a jiné. U většiny her jsou tyto jazyky samozřejmostí.Bohužel tomu tak není u Češtiny.Platím za produkt na steamu v podstatě ty samé peníze jako ostatní tak pro zde není víc produktů v mém rodném jazyce?Myslím si že by to přilákalo i víc hráčů z naší země (Česká republika).
Mám zde jeden příklad Mám syna a strašně se mu líbí hra World of Warcraft,ale bohužel hra není v češtině tak že ji nehraje tak často jak by chtěl a bylo na něm vidět jak mu zářily oči při představě že by hra v češtině byla.Poláci jsou naši sousedé a je běžné u většiny her že podpora v polštině existuje úplně běžně.Myslím si že by jste na tom mohli zkusily zapracovat.
s přátelským pozdravem M.Wesley

[Mikasa Ackerman]

the problem is , according to google , theres only 10,58 million people who live in your country , thats not really alot , for german theres roughly 100 million in germany , austria and switzerland combined , france also has 67 million (and alot of other countries that speak french , like in canada and probably also africa even polish has 38 million

the simple truth is , developers dont have to provide every single language in the world , it would just be hard to do , and besides , english is a global language , same with french and spanish , if those are supported, they cover the majority of the world

also , if you want support for other languages in world of warcraft, you should contact blizzard , not valve

[Gilga ™ |Yonaguni|]

Its also about the money, translation cost money, and to translate a game for some minor languages doesn`t pay well.

Germany and France are big players, with a huge gaming community, and still some games doesn`t even release in this languages.

[Crazy Tiger]

It costs money to translate a game. Usually games are localized to more common languages.
This is also something that Valve/Steam has NO control over. You need to take this up with developers and publishers, as they are the ones who create their games.

[ReBoot]

Why not playing in English? I live in Germany, speak German daily, am rather familiar with it and yet I play most of my games in English. One of the reasons is the German localization being rather lackluster. Not even talking about linguistic fine print which doesn't translate, often the translation and/or voice actors simply suck.

[Priest]

I am sure the Devloper of games know how many additional player they can attract with a additional language.

Many games dont even offer german Translations with rough 100 Mio people speaking it.
Why should the average gamestudio translate into a language with only 15% of that if gerrman is allready borderline

[ReBoot]

Originally posted by dejvo:

I UNDRESTAND BUT MORE LANGUAGES MORE BUYERS

... and more effort.

[Reddkill79]

I can't really contribute anything useful because I'm not yet a developer and it's gonna sound a bit harsh but

english is a really simple languageblablablablbalblalbalba, if someone doesn't know english in 2020, good luck.

IF your son will learn to play games in english, there's a bright future ahead of him, at least usually brighter than those who don't. Besides, it's fun, instead of learning english at boring lessons in school or youtube videos, a person can learn english from playing game, I mean, what a win.

IF your son becomes proficient at english, it will be almost no difference if he plays in native language or english, well, unless he doesn't really like the way it sounds.

I know that it might be a bit less enthusiastic but if you look it at certain perspective and you share that perspective with him, it's a win-win situation.

[Gallifrey - CSSC Gaming Founder]

English is straightforward if you are a native speaker. For non English speakers its background as a melange of Germanic/Franco/Nordic/Roman influences with very unstructured grammar makes it less than simple. For European languages I'd rate French, Spanish, and Italian as being easier for non natives to learn.

S.x.

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[Crazy Tiger]

Originally posted by dejvo:

I UNDRESTAND BUT MORE LANGUAGES MORE BUYERS

Which still is something you need to take up with the game developers/publishers. Posting here will not achieve anything.

Originally posted by Gallifrey - CSSC Gaming Founder:

English is straightforward if you are a native speaker. For non English speakers its background as a melange of Germanic/Franco/Nordic/Roman influences with very unstructured grammar makes it less than simple. For European languages I'd rate French, Spanish, and Italian as being easier for non natives to learn.

S.x.

Depends where you are from. If you're from southern Europe, then yes. If you're from Northern Europe, it's usually German, English and even a language like Danish that's easier to learn.

[Gallifrey - CSSC Gaming Founder]

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:

Originally posted by dejvo:

I UNDRESTAND BUT MORE LANGUAGES MORE BUYERS

Which still is something you need to take up with the game developers/publishers. Posting here will not achieve anything.

Originally posted by Gallifrey - CSSC Gaming Founder:

English is straightforward if you are a native speaker. For non English speakers its background as a melange of Germanic/Franco/Nordic/Roman influences with very unstructured grammar makes it less than simple. For European languages I'd rate French, Spanish, and Italian as being easier for non natives to learn.

S.x.

Depends where you are from. If you're from southern Europe, then yes. If you're from Northern Europe, it's usually German, English and even a language like Danish that's easier to learn.

My mother who taught French and German might disagree with you.

S.x.

[Crazy Tiger]

Originally posted by Gallifrey - CSSC Gaming Founder:

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:

Which still is something you need to take up with the game developers/publishers. Posting here will not achieve anything.


Depends where you are from. If you're from southern Europe, then yes. If you're from Northern Europe, it's usually German, English and even a language like Danish that's easier to learn.

My mother who taught French and German might disagree with you.

S.x.

And we all know that your mother is representative, right.

[Gallifrey - CSSC Gaming Founder]

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:

Originally posted by Gallifrey - CSSC Gaming Founder:

My mother who taught French and German might disagree with you.

S.x.

And we all know that your mother is representative, right.

You really want to start a fight on this ?

There's going to be a degree of subjectivity but English has lots of words that look similar in their written form but are pronounced differently - far more than any of the languages I named.

French and German in particular have precise rules on the different forms of verbs for example that are very rarely broken.

I really don't care enough to put a great degree of effort into it. There's probably surveys out there will say either way.

English has been the dominant language because the USA was the dominant world economy and the UK was a major part of the EU. In particular the cultural dominance of the USA encouraged adoption, or at least fluency, in English. It was also a "common" tongue across India and parts of Africa where otherwise there were many different local languages.

But that doesn't necessarily mean that English is "easy" to learn for a non native speaker compared to other languages. And it's to a degree lazy just to say "learn English".

S.x.

[Crazy Tiger]

Originally posted by Gallifrey - CSSC Gaming Founder:

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:

And we all know that your mother is representative, right.

You really want to start a fight on this ?

No, but it's ridiculous to say that your mother might disagree. As if that has any bearing or meaning at all.

Learning languages mostly has to do with affinity, but the language group that your native language is part of also is of influence.

I agree that it's lazy to say "just learn English", cause personal preference and talents have a large impact as well. Some people, no matter how much time they put into it, will simply never learn a new language, or at least to a point that they can "do their thing".

[ReBoot]

Originally posted by Gallifrey - CSSC Gaming Founder:

And it's to a degree lazy just to say "learn English".

No, it's not. As for myself, I was born in Russia and live in Germany, neither countries got English as their primary language.

I am rather proficient in English though, and as a software developer myslef, I go with producing in English by default. Simply because it's the lngiua franca. English is, as it happens, the current universal world language. There's countless scientific and engineerings material written in English, because English is the default go-to language.
Producing a scientific paper in English and, let's say, German, is more than double the effort, especially since heaps of special terms in any field are English'ish (although stuff like eigenvector exists in English which came from German). In university, I've had a fair share of lectures in English and pretty much every single paper I've read for my own degree was in English.

When it comes to software, localization is a horribly complex & dangerous field. Having a localization infrastructure in the first place is heaps of additional effort in the first place and then there's the issue with structuring your strings in a translatable way. Then there's the issue with intricancies of particular languages. How do you make sure that the things in different languages mean what you think they mean? How do you get the translation in the first place? Keeping an army of in-house translators is expensive. Giving the string list to external means you'll get crap because they don't have the tiniest idea of your product.

Loads of people don't go that additional length. Beat Saber, for example, is a game by Czech developers, and is available in English only.

Time to learn English, buddy. It's pretty easy as well. True, English is harder to learn on a purely mechanical basis, than, let's say, German. But when you work on intuitive grounds, getting a feel for the language, then English isn't that difficult. In case it's not clear, I'm speaking as someone who never had English as a native language.

It's not "lazy" by any stretch. It would be lazy if there was hardly any effort. But it is. You know, I could say it's lazy to refuse learning the one common world language in 2020. It doesn't matter what you think of the reasons for English being the lingua franca. Neither, by the way, does it matter what I think (I personally think it's time for the US to get off their high ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ horse as the wannabe-world-leader). What matters is, English is the lingua franca.