when can we ban ♥♥♥♥♥♥ hentai spam dev/publish for good by our own?

[mP3+Z]

too many hentai puzzle games that just made by a unity asset.
if valve don't ban these, at least allow us ban by ourself.

[Paratech2008]

There are games selling on Steam that only exist because they have nude anime boobies and its unfortunate that they even got in the store, whether legal or not, they make Steam look trashy and Valve would be doing people a favor to remove them from sale.

I find it interesting this is happening while mild arcade pinball games are being censoed by a company selling games on Steam.

[wckowalski]

Originally posted by evgenij1:

Originally posted by Ogami:

Making false reports seems like a good way to get your own account banned, not the game.
I seen a few of those ban "tries" on games that did not contain any of that accused content and it never worked.
The games are still sold and the accusers got banned for false reporting.
But please, be my guest and try.

Where did I say a word about false reports? Almost every hentai game have girls that looks like they are below 18, which is a minor in US. And because steam have taste police (they recently banned a visual novel because it involved a fictional minor in a suggestive situation) such true report might get the game banned.

What if they look like a child, but are according the story they are offically some sort of supernatural being or alien or something that is actually hundreds of years old?

Originally posted by Paratech2008:

There are games selling on Steam that only exist because they have nude anime boobies and its unfortunate that they even got in the store, whether legal or not, they make Steam look trashy and Valve would be doing people a favor to remove them from sale.

I find it interesting this is happening while mild arcade pinball games are being censoed by a company selling games on Steam.

If Steam no longer will prevent games from being on the story solely due to sexual content, such games aren't going to be removed due to poor game quality or not being much of a game when they approved something called "Glitch Simulator 2018" that seems like it could have been made in under an hour using stock assets and despite the name doesn't actually contain deliberate glitches. Also, I don't really understand why people buy such games as you can easily obtain online images or video of anime boobs for free, and there are games with such content available with better production values.

[dynastystar]

Originally posted by Rothnihalias:

Originally posted by dynastystar:

okay, but have you PLAYED any of the games in question? Like for example, from what I hear a game called The Key To Home or something got removed from Steam under the guise of "child pornography" but from what I heard, its not sexual in nature at all. If a bit of cleavage is what you consider pornography, then your bar for what porn is, is far too low.

Well for starters, that was about a minor. That's a separate can of worms that most porn stuff avoids by directly stating that the characters are 18 years of age. I know nothing about your example and from your description it sounds like it didn't deserve to be lumped in with regular smut (though the fact that it was removed is concerning). I know that there are stories out there that incorporate nudity and sex in ways that are genuinely mature and aren't primarily for the viewer's pleasure. I don't support a complete ban of everything like that; it's just that these cash grabs are a blatant stain on Steam's storefront because they serve no purpose other than to be pornography. That's a very clear separation from even Far Cry 4's mangled use of nudity.

if its just about "these cash grabs" then why does anybody need to say hentai or pornography at all when terms have already been coined for what's being asked a ban of?

[dynastystar]

Originally posted by Paratech2008:

There are games selling on Steam that only exist because they have nude anime boobies and its unfortunate that they even got in the store, whether legal or not, they make Steam look trashy and Valve would be doing people a favor to remove them from sale.

I find it interesting this is happening while mild arcade pinball games are being censoed by a company selling games on Steam.

and I would be buying games a far lot less if they removed them from sale. If you have an objection to it, turn that that adult filter thats on by default for everybody again(since you wouldn't be seeing it if unless you had it turned off, and if you have it turned on and are still seeing it, then its not a "nude anime boobie" game).

[wckowalski]

Originally posted by dynastystar:

Originally posted by Paratech2008:

There are games selling on Steam that only exist because they have nude anime boobies and its unfortunate that they even got in the store, whether legal or not, they make Steam look trashy and Valve would be doing people a favor to remove them from sale.

I find it interesting this is happening while mild arcade pinball games are being censoed by a company selling games on Steam.

and I would be buying games a far lot less if they removed them from sale. If you have an objection to it, turn that that adult filter thats on by default for everybody again(since you wouldn't be seeing it if unless you had it turned off, and if you have it turned on and are still seeing it, then its not a "nude anime boobie" game).

Maybe he's still interested in some games containing things that could be considered "adult content", but not games where the primary focus is anime pornography.

[Paratech2008]

That was my point. There are games with sex, but just the content doesn't make a game bad. If you remove the sex and there's nothing left, it is junk.

I like the Senran Kagura games and have them on my 3DS and Vita. I think the games would be just as fun without the stripping.

[Nightlight]

Wait, hentai puzzle games? Are we talking about actual hentai, like full-blown showing characters having sex with each other, with showing these characters having sex being the only thing the game is made for? Or are we just talking about really sexualized games with a lot of fanservice in them? (Both are good material for getting-off on, but they are, to my knowledge, two different things.) If it's the latter, I believe the proper word to use is "ecchi" not "hentai" (god, I sounded like an annoying anime nerd right there.)

Anyway, my advice is to just go to your store preferences and un-tick the box for "nudity or sexual content." I know you've said that the sexual content isn't the issue, and that this advice has already been offered, but if these games bug you to the point that you want them banned then changing your store preferences is probably the best and only real thing you can do.

[WolfEisberg]

Originally posted by mP3+Z:

Originally posted by Teutep:

Same can be said for literally every other garbage game.
Go here and exclude them,
https://store.steampowered.com/account/preferences

Not good enough, I'm actually wait for valve give us a better filter tool that can exclude by multiple keywords.

Or Valve can just increase the fee of steam direct to 1000 usd, it will reduce the willing of dev to publish their games.

Put in anime on the excluded tags, and you will never see those Hentai games ever again.

[Morphic]

Originally posted by Eisberg:

Originally posted by mP3+Z:

Not good enough, I'm actually wait for valve give us a better filter tool that can exclude by multiple keywords.

Or Valve can just increase the fee of steam direct to 1000 usd, it will reduce the willing of dev to publish their games.

Put in anime on the excluded tags, and you will never see those Hentai games ever again.

You'll also, supposedly, no longer see "actual" games that are anime too. Games like Dragonball, Ys ... stuff like that. So that may or may not be more harm than good, though; again, it is supposedly what happens when you exclude anime. Some people were complaining about this in a Thread a few weeks ago. I haven't had an issue with it.

Though I'm sure once Valve rolls out those extended tools they talked about in the September update, this shouldn't be an issue any longer since people can just "block" entire developers/publishers.

Personally, whenever I see a "hentai" game on the Store I just visit the store page for it and check the "Not Interested" box. After about ~50 of them over the course of a couple of Months ... I literally don't see them anymore on my Store Page. Unless I specifically look for them. like in New and Trending or Upcoming Releases sections etc.

Don't really see what the big deal is about these "games", unless they are literally "press F to see porn!" type of things or something. But if they are like that or similar to those Card Farming type of games ... I tend to agree that these things should be removed from the store. Whereas sexual VNs(like School Days, basically choose your own adventure kind of ones) or those match 3 things like Huniepop should stay; while I don't like those they at least attempt to be a game.

[Kargor]

Originally posted by Paratech2008:

I like the Senran Kagura games and have them on my 3DS and Vita. I think the games would be just as fun without the stripping.

I don't have the Senran Kagura games, but "Neptunia U Action Unleashed" has a fanservicey clothes-ripping feature which I believe comes from those games. I actually ended up using the "hard" outfits as I couldn't shake the impression that I was taking more damage when the clothes got ripped...

Originally posted by wckowalski:

What if they look like a child, but are according the story they are offically some sort of supernatural being or alien or something that is actually hundreds of years old?

Yeah, Neptunia CPU candidates. It's kind of hard to tell their age in human years, due to the games just not having real years, but going with various ingame dialogue (aka "that was years ago!") and the fact they've been around for a while now, they must be pretty old by human standards. Even though IF and Compa don't change for some reason, and they've been around even longer.

However, they look like children, usually behave like children (Rom and Ram in particular are getting on my nerves), and are treated like children. Their swimsuit outfits (which have some stats on them, so "best equipment" selects those by default...) appear to be less fanservicey, but HDD looks follow the same conventions as for the main CPUs. Which appears to be OK from a legal perspective.

The latter point is kind of interesting; it appears there's some confusion about "hentai" in discussions like this. As a non-expert I can't really determine what is or is not Hentai, but I think Hentai needs to be considerably more explicit than the usual fanservice you find in games like these.

[dynastystar]

Originally posted by wckowalski:

Originally posted by dynastystar:

and I would be buying games a far lot less if they removed them from sale. If you have an objection to it, turn that that adult filter thats on by default for everybody again(since you wouldn't be seeing it if unless you had it turned off, and if you have it turned on and are still seeing it, then its not a "nude anime boobie" game).

Maybe he's still interested in some games containing things that could be considered "adult content", but not games where the primary focus is anime pornography.

then he has to make a choice I guess. I'm the complete opposite to him, where I'm VERY squeemish and blood makes me nearly pass out. plus I'm just a chicken ♥♥♥♥, so I generally avoid anything with gore which is considered "adult content", however I don't go around demanding such games to be removed from Steam, I just filter it out in what ways I can, and I ignore the rest that I can't. Just like those who oppose it can do with fanservice games.

[dynastystar]

Originally posted by Setzway:

Originally posted by Eisberg:

Put in anime on the excluded tags, and you will never see those Hentai games ever again.

You'll also, supposedly, no longer see "actual" games that are anime too. Games like Dragonball, Ys ... stuff like that. So that may or may not be more harm than good, though; again, it is supposedly what happens when you exclude anime. Some people were complaining about this in a Thread a few weeks ago. I haven't had an issue with it.

Though I'm sure once Valve rolls out those extended tools they talked about in the September update, this shouldn't be an issue any longer since people can just "block" entire developers/publishers.

Personally, whenever I see a "hentai" game on the Store I just visit the store page for it and check the "Not Interested" box. After about ~50 of them over the course of a couple of Months ... I literally don't see them anymore on my Store Page. Unless I specifically look for them. like in New and Trending or Upcoming Releases sections etc.

Don't really see what the big deal is about these "games", unless they are literally "press F to see porn!" type of things or something. But if they are like that or similar to those Card Farming type of games ... I tend to agree that these things should be removed from the store. Whereas sexual VNs(like School Days, basically choose your own adventure kind of ones) or those match 3 things like Huniepop should stay; while I don't like those they at least attempt to be a game.

yeah, thats the problem, people ♥♥♥♥♥ that things they don't like exist on the platform they choose, and then when they filter it out for themselves, or Steam refuses to sell what they want, they'll ♥♥♥♥♥ more. I'm personally happy with Steam being the opposite of a Walled Garden. Even the games I most adamantly dislike(Walking Simulators for example) are allowed on Steam and the things that I like are on Steam in return.

[GRIDLINES]

Originally posted by dynastystar:

if its just about "these cash grabs" then why does anybody need to say hentai or pornography at all when terms have already been coined for what's being asked a ban of?

Because it's a different class of cash grab. Paratech said it better than I did:

Originally posted by Paratech2008:

That was my point. There are games with sex, but just the content doesn't make a game bad. If you remove the sex and there's nothing left, it is junk.

[Gilga ™ |Yonaguni|]

Don`t like it, then don`t buy it.

If you think its breaking the Steam rules, report the game on the shop page, its that easy.

[wckowalski]

Originally posted by Nightlight:

Wait, hentai puzzle games? Are we talking about actual hentai, like full-blown showing characters having sex with each other, with showing these characters having sex being the only thing the game is made for? Or are we just talking about really sexualized games with a lot of fanservice in them? (Both are good material for getting-off on, but they are, to my knowledge, two different things.) If it's the latter, I believe the proper word to use is "ecchi" not "hentai" (god, I sounded like an annoying anime nerd right there.)

Anyway, my advice is to just go to your store preferences and un-tick the box for "nudity or sexual content." I know you've said that the sexual content isn't the issue, and that this advice has already been offered, but if these games bug you to the point that you want them banned then changing your store preferences is probably the best and only real thing you can do.

There are games where you have to do some sort of very basic and generic puzzle gameplay, upon which you are rewarded with pornographic anime style images.