Steam's, we don't count wallet funds, effects on your purchase habits.

[Xite >X< 👁️👁 🇦🇺]

Since the Steam wallet started, I was always happy to keep funds in it, I was more concerned about exchange rates than how stuffed my wallet was.

Since the Winter Sale ended, I have not and will not add a single cent to my wallet until the next event begins, because Valve will punish me for adding funds early.

If the objective of the Sale was to reduce wallet funds being used to by games, I am not sure than worked out well. Though I am sure there has been major drop in the total of all wallet funds since the sale.

All it did was made people annoyed that Valve differentiated between Real money and Wallet funds, when both were the same beforehand.

For me, deciding my wallet cash isn't good enough has simply made me not put any in there until there is a reward offered.

[SpunkyJones]

Ok

[Start_Running]

You count not being given free stuff that you had no reason to expect, punishment.
I did not think I'd see an actual RL aopplication of one of my favourite old parables.

[Paratech2008]

I dunno. If I lost out on a coupon, I'd just not buy anything else that sale after my budget.

I picked up Wreckfest with the $5 off coupon, making it a bit under $12 with no coupon I just wouldn't have made the purchase. I also picked up a sound DLC for Moonlighter in that purchase. I wouldn't have done that either.

I just try to keep within a budget each sale and if I get a coupon after the budget is used up I buy something small, otherwise I'm done.

It took me over 2 years to pay off a credit card because I didn't keep a budget and I remember that when I get tempted to spend more than I budget. I don't have a credit card now and am happier without one.

[Xite >X< 👁️👁 🇦🇺]

Originally posted by Start_Running:

You count not being given free stuff that you had no reason to expect, punishment.
I did not think I'd see an actual RL aopplication of one of my favourite old parables.

The only thing I expected was that my wallet funds, my paypal and credit card were equal, they clearly are not any more.

[Start_Running]

Originally posted by Xite >X< 👁️👁 🇦🇺:

Originally posted by Start_Running:

You count not being given free stuff that you had no reason to expect, punishment.
I did not think I'd see an actual RL aopplication of one of my favourite old parables.

The only thing I expected was that my wallet funds, my paypal and credit card were equal, they clearly are not any more.

Well they are equal in that you can spend all of them just the same. I suspect the reason that wallet funds weren't included or limited is that in part, wallet funds don't always come from the same place. You can get wallet funds from the market for example.

EIther way, I do find it interesting how many people seemed to be miffed over that..
I gyuess it is trute that the fastest way to make a man unhappy is to give the man next to him $10.

[Paratech2008]

Well had I purchased $40-$50 in wallet cards and been excluded from a card, I'd be jarated.

I just would limit myself to the limit I set for the sale and not make an extra purchase.

No big deal anyways.

[Start_Running]

Originally posted by Paratech2008:

Well had I purchased $40-$50 in wallet cards and been excluded from a card, I'd be jarated.

I just would limit myself to the limit I set for the sale and not make an extra purchase.

No big deal anyways.

Isn't that what sensible people do any way. My budget last sale was $35

$10 leftover from the exoplorer sale and $25 added during the winter sale.. Technically that means ii saw no credit for those $10 burt I really did not care... I can see the devious little trick Valve pulled with that coupon and its saddening how effective it seems to be.

[nullable]

Originally posted by Xite >X< 👁️👁 🇦🇺:

Since the Winter Sale ended, I have not and will not add a single cent to my wallet until the next event begins, because Valve will punish me for adding funds early.

Here's the problem. Say you add to your Steam wallet in November and they did count for the Winter sale. And say you don't spend that all. The next event comes along, you want that money to count for points in the next event? Oh you probably wouldn't mind that, being able to double dip.

Or you want Steam to do is figure out what money was added when... and whether it's already been "used" for an event or whether you think it's been used for an event... it gets real complicated real quick. And people often get upset when their expectations aren't met in my experience.

Originally posted by Xite >X< 👁️👁 🇦🇺:

If the objective of the Sale was to reduce wallet funds being used to by games, I am not sure than worked out well. Though I am sure there has been major drop in the total of all wallet funds since the sale.

You believe a majority of Steam users are adding money to their wallets to get points during sales events? I mean clearly you think it's plausible and therefore true. You got any evidence for that? Or just assumptions?

Originally posted by Xite >X< 👁️👁 🇦🇺:

All it did was made people annoyed that Valve differentiated between Real money and Wallet funds, when both were the same beforehand.

It is amazing how worked up people get over a a temporary made up and worthless virtual currency. But then again I've never seen a Steam event someone couldn't pitch a fit over if they tried.

Originally posted by Xite >X< 👁️👁 🇦🇺:

For me, deciding my wallet cash isn't good enough has simply made me not put any in there until there is a reward offered.

Well you do you. If that seems rational to you, so be it. But perhaps the only reason I'm not salty is I don't use the Steam wallet, eh?

[Radene]

Originally posted by Xite >X< 👁️👁 🇦🇺:

Originally posted by Start_Running:

You count not being given free stuff that you had no reason to expect, punishment.
I did not think I'd see an actual RL aopplication of one of my favourite old parables.

The only thing I expected was that my wallet funds, my paypal and credit card were equal, they clearly are not any more.

Of course they're not. Wallet funds are exclusively store credit, while PP/CC are liquid funds you can use wherever you want/can.

[Matt]

On what basis is this decision being made? The rules for the event next year could be different, and that's assuming an event is planned to begin with.

[Xite >X< 👁️👁 🇦🇺]

Originally posted by Radene:

Originally posted by Xite >X< 👁️👁 🇦🇺:

The only thing I expected was that my wallet funds, my paypal and credit card were equal, they clearly are not any more.

Of course they're not. Wallet funds are exclusively store credit, while PP/CC are liquid funds you can use wherever you want/can.

My fault for believing Valve would treat my money the same regardless of when I added it. Hence my new stance on not adding funds.

Originally posted by Matt:

On what basis is this decision being made? The rules for the event next year could be different, and that's assuming an event is planned to begin with.

I see this:
Valve made all purchases going back months count for the hugely inflated XP in the Summer Event.

This made many users believe that all money spent added to bonuses and levels at the next Event.

Then the cutoff day comes in and they add no tokens for previous wallet cash or purchases. A smack in the face for those expecting something.

Personally it didn't affect me much at all. I got all the goodies I wanted and gifted a random friend a game, levelled up plenty and got some new games myself.

But there are some pretty salty people out there over a perceived loss of what they never had or got promised, they assumed the super xp events would continue and prepared for it.

I can understand the change, they went from game purchases to money added during sales events to prevent free shell-outs for traders.

That said, putting money in your wallet is now obsolete and pointless.

[Start_Running]

No matter what the cut off date was,...someone was going to be pissed.

[Xite >X< 👁️👁 🇦🇺]

Originally posted by Start_Running:

No matter what the cut off date was,...someone was going to be pissed.

The obvious fix was to go back to the previous event.

[Tito Shivan]

IMO the core issue here is people considering their Steam Wallet some sort of 'savings account' and storing funds there for (much) later use.

That wasn't really the intended use of the Steam Wallet as much as it's a side effect of its use. Wallet is a means to perform microtransactions, storing money on it is more a side effect than a feature of sorts.

Giving rewards for keeping funds there for any large ammount of time would obmy encourage a misuse of the feature and entice people to store more and more funds there for the new event. And I guess Steam doesn't want to become a makeshift banking account.

[Radene]

Originally posted by Xite >X< 👁️👁 🇦🇺:

Originally posted by Radene:

Of course they're not. Wallet funds are exclusively store credit, while PP/CC are liquid funds you can use wherever you want/can.

My fault for believing Valve would treat my money the same regardless of when I added it. Hence my new stance on not adding funds.

But steam wallet funds aren't really money. It's store credit, you can't use it to book a flight to Abu Dhabi instead.