Dutch Dec 26, 2019 @ 2:59pm
can you plug in your usb cable to your ps4 then start playing?
I just did it, and its charging. but doesnt the pc give it power so why does it need to charge?
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Not enough power over USB.
Dr.Shadowds 🐉 Dec 26, 2019 @ 3:36pm 
Originally posted by Xite >X< 👁️👁 🇦🇺:
Not enough power over USB.
That's not the issue, unless there a limiter to prevent drawing upwards of 900ma, or less, which is very unlikely on PC's.
ehoeheo Dec 26, 2019 @ 3:43pm 
Probably
Uueerdo Dec 26, 2019 @ 3:48pm 
Originally posted by Dr.Shadowds 🐉:
Originally posted by Xite >X< 👁️👁 🇦🇺:
Not enough power over USB.
That's not the issue, unless there a limiter to prevent drawing upwards of 900ma, or less, which is very unlikely on PC's.
I quick google search turned up: USB 2.0/3.0 allows 500ma/900ma respectively for a device, and a PS4 controller requires 800ma. So USB 2.0 will not have enough, and it's still possible a loaded 3.0 would not have enough for all devices attached.
Dutch Dec 26, 2019 @ 3:54pm 
also, is there a way to play lego star wars? I have DS4 I just dont know if it works yet since its charing
Komrade Dec 26, 2019 @ 4:17pm 
Originally posted by Dutch:
also, is there a way to play lego star wars? I have DS4 I just dont know if it works yet since its charing
The cable must be a data transfer cable, and not charge only.
Dr.Shadowds 🐉 Dec 26, 2019 @ 4:21pm 
Originally posted by Uueerdo:
Originally posted by Dr.Shadowds 🐉:
That's not the issue, unless there a limiter to prevent drawing upwards of 900ma, or less, which is very unlikely on PC's.
I quick google search turned up: USB 2.0/3.0 allows 500ma/900ma respectively for a device, and a PS4 controller requires 800ma. So USB 2.0 will not have enough, and it's still possible a loaded 3.0 would not have enough for all devices attached.
Do realize PS4 controller micro usb port is 2.0 right?
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Uueerdo Dec 27, 2019 @ 9:54am 
Originally posted by Dr.Shadowds 🐉:
Originally posted by Uueerdo:
I quick google search turned up: USB 2.0/3.0 allows 500ma/900ma respectively for a device, and a PS4 controller requires 800ma. So USB 2.0 will not have enough, and it's still possible a loaded 3.0 would not have enough for all devices attached.
Do realize PS4 controller micro usb port is 2.0 right?
Nope, I don't. As I said, I was just going by web search results, which could be wrong (which is was I led with that disclaimer) or (if they are correct) indicate that a PS4 controller pulls more power than a standard USB 2.0 port is required to provide to be in spec.
Dr.Shadowds 🐉 Dec 27, 2019 @ 11:18am 
Originally posted by Uueerdo:
Originally posted by Dr.Shadowds 🐉:
Do realize PS4 controller micro usb port is 2.0 right?
Nope, I don't. As I said, I was just going by web search results, which could be wrong (which is was I led with that disclaimer) or (if they are correct) indicate that a PS4 controller pulls more power than a standard USB 2.0 port is required to provide to be in spec.
Then I suggest don't go by whatever you're reading from, as clearly that's not the case whatever they're claiming, reading the specs on the product provides better answers, but on PC that's not possible as no one provide those answers, nor really need to, as they normally provides more than enough power then you think, as USB ports themselfs are not a limiter, as they don't control the amount that past through them, this is where capacitors, and etc comes into play.

When you see usb wall charger for your smart phone claim doing 1.8V, or etc, then say 1.8V = 500ma / 1.8 = 900ma both label on the same thing, means it has a switch on it, has a limiter for 500ma, and another limiter for 900ma, but in truth if it's really a 1.8V, just example plus 1 ohms, then really without those limiter it can push 1800ma to the device, now that wouldn't be safe for your smartphone as that be too much power pushing into it at one time, overloading battery will be bad idea as well, but can't due to those limiters, despite being a usb port. Read product 1st, then you know more, for PC's I doubt 800mA will be a problem. A USB port is not a power limiter just to be clear, if there was a power limiter, it be on the chipset that connects to the USB connector, or on the board on the path leading to the USB port, and like said before PC usb ports wouldn't have these limiters really as there no real reason for them to have as such. I can make a video showing a external ssd that claim by website needing 900ma working perfectly, and with full performance doing well on the USB 2.0 from old laptop I have that only has USB 2.0, or even PS3 that's only has USB 2.0, or Xbox 360, of cource it would not be able to do the high read, and write speeds of an ssd over USB 2.0, but it will be able to do near what it fully capable of which really whatever the limits that UBS 2.0 can provides on a SSD that has usb port of 3.1 connector.
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Insomnia Dec 27, 2019 @ 11:42am 
Worked for me.
Meneluma Dec 27, 2019 @ 12:10pm 
I feel like this thread should be moved to the hardware section. Can you report threads asking for a move? Folks at the hardware subforum generally are more eager to help.

I have a ridiculous PS4 setup going through an adapter/splitter, KVM, USB/audio cable extenders and additional speakers just to connect it to a VGA monitor, the speakers draw power from one of the PS4's USB controller ports.

I'd love to know what this thread is about, purely for the novelty of weird workarounds.
Is it for just charging the controller or did someone set up to power the console through a USB port instead of the standard electric outlet?

Also, I have been using my DS4 here on Steam for over 70 hours of playing Celeste in wired USB mode only having it plugged in when I play, and never specifically set it to charge and I never had an issue of the controller running out of juice, the lighting was set to dim because it is way too bright otherwise. So if that's the issue, I assume you won't have to worry, unless you have some crappy cable I guess, the one that came with the PS4 works great though.
Last edited by Meneluma; Dec 27, 2019 @ 12:18pm
Dr.Shadowds 🐉 Dec 27, 2019 @ 12:36pm 
Originally posted by Captain Yorshka:
I feel like this thread should be moved to the hardware section. Can you report threads asking for a move? Folks at the hardware subforum generally are more eager to help.

I have a ridiculous PS4 setup going through an adapter/splitter, KVM, USB/audio cable extenders and additional speakers just to connect it to a VGA monitor, the speakers draw power from one of the PS4's USB controller ports.

I'd love to know what this thread is about, purely for the novelty of weird workarounds.
Is it for just charging the controller or did someone set up to power the console through a USB port instead of the standard electric outlet?

Also, I have been using my DS4 here on Steam for over 70 hours of playing Celeste in wired USB mode only having it plugged in when I play, and never specifically set it to charge and I never had an issue of the controller running out of juice, the lighting was set to dim because it is way too bright otherwise. So if that's the issue, I assume you won't have to worry, unless you have some crappy cable I guess, the one that came with the PS4 works great though.
OP asking why his controller charging, and we don't know if he using a charging cable only. Yes there cheap dollar store / chinese cables that made for charging only purposes.
Last edited by Dr.Shadowds 🐉; Dec 27, 2019 @ 12:38pm
Meneluma Dec 27, 2019 @ 12:46pm 
Originally posted by Dr.Shadowds 🐉:
OP asking why his controller charging, and we don't know if he using a charging cable only. Yes there cheap dollar store / chinese cables that made for charging only purposes.
Well it always shows up as charging when plugged in, maybe unless the battery is completely full. But if it doesn't work as in you can't play with it as it appears as charging(possibly being to a charge only cable), you could play it in wireless mode while charging it through USB.

Though I would really not think of how to solve the one thing that could technically throw you out of the loop. As in, changing the PS4 settings to use the controller in USB mode only while having a charge only cable. I don't really remember if the default setting was wireless or not, but if it was technically you may have screwed yourself over if that is what happened.

The one thing I know about the charge only cables I've had so far was that all of them had "Charge Only" written on them, though I won't claim that someone might not choose to say that in hopes of passing off their product as a data cable.
Last edited by Meneluma; Dec 27, 2019 @ 12:56pm
Dr.Shadowds 🐉 Dec 27, 2019 @ 1:17pm 
We don't know what else to say from this point, until OP try out the controller, and gives more clear details, if it's not able to detect the controller playing in the game, or not.
Dutch Dec 27, 2019 @ 1:32pm 
I installed DS4 controller and it works. I was just wondering why it needed to charge if the power was already given to it through the pc.
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