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[tech]

Wow. Stupidest effing thing I ever heard. Was going to get my son $50.00 steam for xmas, but sorry, your rule just cost ya that sale.
Hundreds. Thousands. MILLIONS of online secure transactions every day but Steam can't handle any of them without a 3-day wait (that isn't going to protect anything anyway)? Starting to make sense why the games i have tried off here suck a$$ a lot of the time - if ya can't handle a simple secure cc transaction how will you ever make something as complex as a game work?

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

It took 6 months of complaining to get a manager at a Walgreen's to restock them. But Coinstar is far easier. No cashier to deal with.

[rawWwRrr]

Messaggio originale di tech:

Oh, that's right, it's the LIBERAL age, where we have to be told what to do because we are incapable of thinking for ourselves.

You should read these Steam forums more often. You'll see that even when told what to do, people still can't secure their own accounts or fall for obvious scams or get banned from games. But the protections you are running into didn't develop out of thin air but because, yes, people need protecting. And Steam doesn't know you from the next person. So everyone is treated equally.

Steam isn't the Holy Grail. Wait your 3 days and take care of it then.

[SparkyLab]

Messaggio originale di cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

A ton have pulled them from stock due to fraud. Mainly on a store by store basis.

:qr:

Not sure if it's fraud, but yeah near my area Fred Meyers, Safeway, Walgreen, and Walmart (the groceries) pull them off the shelves.

Now I have to drive to the Mall area Target and GS to get them.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Messaggio originale di SparkyLab:

Messaggio originale di cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

A ton have pulled them from stock due to fraud. Mainly on a store by store basis.

Not sure if it's fraud, but yeah near my area Fred Meyers, Safeway, Walgreen, and Walmart (the groceries) pull them off the shelves.

Now I have to drive to the Mall area Target and GS to get them.

No Coinstar kiosk in any Fred Meyers, Safeway or Walmart?

[SparkyLab]

Is coinstar the machine that collect coins ( I only see and use the one in Freddies .. that is if I collect enough coins. ) ? I usually just just choose the receipt and go to the CS to exchange money.

Edit: I didn't know they have Steam gift card choice. .... it's like a few year I have not exchange coins. My Jar is not full.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Messaggio originale di SparkyLab:

Is coinstar the machine that collect coins ( I only see and use the one in Freddies .. that is if I collect enough coins. ) ? I usually just just choose the receipt and go to the CS to exchange money.

Yes. You only.need to go to CS to redeem your receipt for the coins you cashed in.

The wallet code is printed directly on the receipt you get out of the machine.

https://www.coinstar.com/giftcards

[SparkyLab]

oh...... thanks @cSg|mc-Hotsauce for saving me those trip in the futrue. I'll go check them out next time I go groceries.

[Hanomaly]

Messaggio originale di tech:

Messaggio originale di cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

I'm sure you could have purchased a physical card on the way home too.

Wow, wish I had thought of that. Or, well, maybe more to the point, wish the FIVE DIFFERENT STORES I went to over the last 2 days looking for them had HAD them in stock... 3 Walgreens, 2 Best Buys, straight off the Steam list where I checked.

There are many ways to make a cc transaction secure (such as virtual card numbers) to protect the user. What is this, the stone age? Oh, that's right, it's the LIBERAL age, where we have to be told what to do because we are incapable of thinking for ourselves. Thank you Steam for keeping me from having to use my brain, I probably would have entered my Mastercard number 0000-1111-2222-3333 exp. date 02/2099 ccv 666 into general chat asking if someone could try to make it work for me because I couldn't.

It is clear by your responses you do not use Steam very often yourself so you are unaware of the scams that happen to users here every day. Probably users young like your child. But also older teens and naive adults.

Valve has no problem making a "secure credit card transaction". The 3 day friend wait is NOT about that at all.

People get scammed *doing a secure credit card transaction* on Steam every day.. or they *did* until more measures were in place to try to inhibit such things from happening.

Innocent users would be tricked into sending money/digital gift cards to people they just met (fake admins, scammers doing the Steam equivalent of the nigerian lotto scam). The 3 day wait slows down such scams.. gives people time to think about what they are doing. It provides other protections as well.

But Amazon does not deal with a user base of Counter Strike Global Offense players (and other games like that) constantly trying to rip each other off and abuse naive players into giving them money. Barnes and Noble and all the other places you think are doing easy-peasy user to user payments aren't dealing with that kind of community.

i'm sorry that you are so frustrated about the Xmas thing. If your *child* is more familiar with Steam then you are they will likely understand the delays and restrictions FAR BETTER than you and will probably be fine getting their Xmas Steam money 1 or 2 days after Xmas. And hooray the Steam Xmas sale even lasts a full WEEK after Xmas so plenty of time for your child to still participate in sale prices.

[Emperor of Awesomeness]

my two cents (not weighing into whether the security measure is warranted): e-transfers from banks exist and depending on the bank are very effective - that is a good alternative. Or get a cash withdraw of 50$. Or if possible let him fill his cart with what he wants and then pay for it with your credit card on his account.
#options
also, to your point of games sucking on steam - some do some don't, you can read reviews to help find out if any particular games does or doesn't. Also a good game will probably have gameplay footage on YouTube so you could check that out as well.