When does the VAC ban disappear from your steam profile?

[Nero]

So i got a VAC on cs:go a bit more than 2 years ago for hacking on random servers (i'm a piece of ♥♥♥♥ i know) , and i'd like to know when the vac can disappear from my profile (not from the game). Thanks.

[PTMxCh00b (ripTarkov?)]

Escrito originalmente por Mikasa Ackerman:

Escrito originalmente por Spawn of Totoro:

Keep in mind the ban is not removed, it just doesn't show on the profile. The user will still be banned.

i think its fair to asume after 7 years the person learned their lesson and no longer mark them as a dirty cheater on their profile

Its been over 5 years (1984 days) since my ban in Cs 1.6 and i still get called out in Pubg forums and such even though ive already had professional ESL career (including their own software to detect cheaters with recording/screenshots), because apparently making the mistake of cheating calls more attention than going to jail for a year....

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Escrito originalmente por PTMxCh00b (#MSWexperience):

Its been over 5 years (1984 days) since my ban in Cs 1.6 and i still get called out in Pubg forums and such even though ive already had professional ESL career (including their own software to detect cheaters with recording/screenshots), because apparently making the mistake of cheating calls more attention than going to jail for a year....

With "multiple" bans, that might explain it.

[PTMxCh00b (ripTarkov?)]

Escrito originalmente por cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Escrito originalmente por PTMxCh00b (#MSWexperience):

Its been over 5 years (1984 days) since my ban in Cs 1.6 and i still get called out in Pubg forums and such even though ive already had professional ESL career (including their own software to detect cheaters with recording/screenshots), because apparently making the mistake of cheating calls more attention than going to jail for a year....

With "multiple" bans, that might explain it.

:qr:

Multiple because getting banned in CS1.6 bans you from all of the Hl2 games of those days, like Ricochet and TF Classic etc

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Escrito originalmente por PTMxCh00b (#MSWexperience):

Escrito originalmente por cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

With "multiple" bans, that might explain it.

Multiple because getting banned in CS1.6 bans you from all of the Hl2 games of those days, like Ricochet and TF Classic etc

Highly incorrect.

Multiple bans are only displayed if banned multiple times.

Being banned in 1.6 does NOT ban you in Source games, only Gold Source games. But it would still only be 1 ban if you only cheated in 1.6, which it is not.

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=4044-qdhj-5691#eligible

[PTMxCh00b (ripTarkov?)]

Escrito originalmente por cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Escrito originalmente por PTMxCh00b (#MSWexperience):

Multiple because getting banned in CS1.6 bans you from all of the Hl2 games of those days, like Ricochet and TF Classic etc

Highly incorrect.

Multiple bans are only displayed if banned multiple times.

Being banned in 1.6 does NOT ban you in Source games, only Gold Source games. But it would still only be 1 ban if you only cheated in 1.6, which it is not.

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=4044-qdhj-5691#eligible

:qr:

I cheated in Cs 1.6 (1984 days ago) and got banned from the following:
It shows as Multiple on my profile

Counter-Strike - View Help Page
Team Fortress Classic - View Help Page
Day of Defeat - View Help Page
Deathmatch Classic - View Help Page
Ricochet - View Help Page
Counter-Strike: Condition Zero - View Help Page

[Radene]

Escrito originalmente por LowJack_VA1:

Showing the VAC bans are part of the punishment.

Nah. At best it's a warning in the "setting an example" way.

Otherwise it's just a tool to appeal to people's baser instincts. After all, it's okay to be a complete ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ to someone who deserves it, right?

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Escrito originalmente por PTMxCh00b (#MSWexperience):

Escrito originalmente por cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Highly incorrect.

Multiple bans are only displayed if banned multiple times.

Being banned in 1.6 does NOT ban you in Source games, only Gold Source games. But it would still only be 1 ban if you only cheated in 1.6, which it is not.

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=4044-qdhj-5691#eligible

I cheated in Cs 1.6 and got banned from the following:
It shows as Multiple on my profile

Counter-Strike - View Help Page
Team Fortress Classic - View Help Page
Day of Defeat - View Help Page
Deathmatch Classic - View Help Page
Ricochet - View Help Page
Counter-Strike: Condition Zero - View Help Page

Multiple bans only means being banned on separate occasions. It does not give you another ban on your profile unless you were banned again.

And Source is NOT Gold Source. HL2 is Source, while 1.6 is Gold Source. Pointing that out because you said this...

Escrito originalmente por PTMxCh00b (#MSWexperience):

Multiple because getting banned in CS1.6 bans you from all of the Hl2 games of those days, like Ricochet and TF Classic etc

[PTMxCh00b (ripTarkov?)]

Escrito originalmente por cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Escrito originalmente por PTMxCh00b (#MSWexperience):

I cheated in Cs 1.6 and got banned from the following:
It shows as Multiple on my profile

Counter-Strike - View Help Page
Team Fortress Classic - View Help Page
Day of Defeat - View Help Page
Deathmatch Classic - View Help Page
Ricochet - View Help Page
Counter-Strike: Condition Zero - View Help Page

Multiple bans only means being banned on separate occasions. It does not give you another ban on your profile unless you were banned again.

And Source is NOT Gold Source. HL2 is Source, while 1.6 is Gold Source.

:qr:

I said Hl2 cause i thought that was the engine, my bad
Tell me what my other ban is then lol, i believe my bans are public for another year and a half

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Escrito originalmente por PTMxCh00b (#MSWexperience):

I said Hl2 cause i thought that was the engine, my bad
Tell me what my other ban is then lol, i believe my bans are public for another year and a half

It tells you here... https://help.steampowered.com/en/wizard/VacBans

You could have also clicked the "info" button next to the ban notice.

[peon]

Eh, Once a cheat, Always a cheater.

I know its a hard stigma, but it should be, that stigma prevents alot of us from cheating in the first place, and it should be harsher imo.

There used to be a time when they did lift bans, but that was phased out shortly after the won network was shut down after steam was established, those were some rough days, but this ui change takes the cake.

And I dont blame developers for putting vac on a singleplayer game, especially if that game has leaderboards. Games should be played the way they were meant to play, sure as a kid i had fun turning on godmode or nogravity, but as someone who just wants to enjoy the entertainment just as the producers intended it to be, its inconsequential to me. I dont cheat at multiplayer, and I dont cheat at singleplayer.

[PTMxCh00b (ripTarkov?)]

Escrito originalmente por cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Escrito originalmente por PTMxCh00b (#MSWexperience):

I said Hl2 cause i thought that was the engine, my bad
Tell me what my other ban is then lol, i believe my bans are public for another year and a half

It tells you here... https://help.steampowered.com/en/wizard/VacBans

You could have also clicked the "info" button next to the ban notice.

:qr:

I did...

Escrito originalmente por peon:

Eh, Once a cheat, Always a cheater.

I know its a hard stigma, but it should be, that stigma prevents alot of us from cheating in the first place, and it should be harsher imo.

There used to be a time when they did lift bans, but that was phased out shortly after the won network was shut down after steam was established, those were some rough days, but this ui change takes the cake.

And I dont blame developers for putting vac on a singleplayer game, especially if that game has leaderboards. Games should be played the way they were meant to play, sure as a kid i had fun turning on godmode or nogravity, but as someone who just wants to enjoy the entertainment just as the producers intended it to be, its inconsequential to me. I dont cheat at multiplayer, and I dont cheat at singleplayer.

I was a kid, i didnt know how the world worked or even think about possible repercussions, and im ok with the ban, its fair. But people calling me a cheater after 5 years AND an ESL past just annoys me, its small minded in my opinion

I even streamed international games for my 7v7 team and had ACTUAL PROTEST in ESL of other teams accusing me of cheating but was dissproved (since i was streaming AND we had to use ESL wire that takes screenshots/records).

[Hugh Gory Freeman]

This vac ban is quite extreme but I understand why they have designed it in such a way. My gripe stems from the fact how the technology to detect cheating works which is HIGHLY questionable. I received a ban from pubg couple of years ago for cheating. I contested this because I didn't cheat and they would not ever give me the exact reason of their detection process to explain it to me how they determined I had cheated. Anyways, a few days later I read a notice outside the gaming cafe I visit saying that anyone downloading cheat software on the systems will be banned from the cafe. And then it struck me, the PC I must have used to login my steam account might have been loaded with cheats and long story short I finally found out how I got banned but it is extremely frustrating that I have to live with this "enforced shame" of having the notice of ban permanently displayed on my profile. I tried to present this case to valve and blue hole but despite my best efforts no one listened and no one cared. Now when I think back it seems like ages ago but reading from comments sections there is hope that I would see the false ban removed. But more importantly I would like game developers and valve to work closely to develop better anti cheat technology which can perhaps mitigate situation like that of mine

[J4MESOX4D]

Escrito originalmente por Hugh Gory Freeman:

This vac ban is quite extreme but I understand why they have designed it in such a way. My gripe stems from the fact how the technology to detect cheating works which is HIGHLY questionable. I received a ban from pubg couple of years ago for cheating. I contested this because I didn't cheat and they would not ever give me the exact reason of their detection process to explain it to me how they determined I had cheated. Anyways, a few days later I read a notice outside the gaming cafe I visit saying that anyone downloading cheat software on the systems will be banned from the cafe. And then it struck me, the PC I must have used to login my steam account might have been loaded with cheats and long story short I finally found out how I got banned but it is extremely frustrating that I have to live with this "enforced shame" of having the notice of ban permanently displayed on my profile. I tried to present this case to valve and blue hole but despite my best efforts no one listened and no one cared. Now when I think back it seems like ages ago but reading from comments sections there is hope that I would see the false ban removed. But more importantly I would like game developers and valve to work closely to develop better anti cheat technology which can perhaps mitigate situation like that of mine

PUBG game bans are nothing to do with VAC. Either your account cheated by definition or it played on a contaminated device.

Rule number one is not play on devices that you don't know are safe. The anti-cheat systems don't care if you are actively cheating or that you're playing on a public PC loaded with cheats.

[Cathulhu]

Your game ban in PUBG has nothing to do with VAC, or this forum.

[Danny]

It isnt fair for false bans, mine was in Cod Zombies, when I triggered a glitch in the game without realising it, all of a sudden the game rounds started skipping 1 by 1. It makes you think, game developers purposely put these easter eggs in in hope of you buy another copy of the game to continue playing it.