Filter out low playtime reviews

[Blitz4]

Can I filter out any reviews that have less than 2 hours of playtime so I can get a better idea of how much the game is liked overall?

[Radene]

Then you might miss reviews addressing technical issues that prevent people from actually playing it.

[Count_Dandyman]

Overall doesn't just mean the people that liked the game enough to not refund and keep playing .

[Blitz4]

Originally posted by Radene:

Then you might miss reviews addressing technical issues that prevent people from actually playing it.

That doesn't matter to me. The pro's far outweight the cons to create this filter.
If Valve doesn't want to go for Steam Explorer, then why not test this sub-2hr filter out?

Originally posted by Count_Dandyman:

Overall doesn't just mean the people that liked the game enough to not refund and keep playing .

Or the people who chose not to review the game.

[Radene]

Originally posted by Blitz4:

Originally posted by Radene:

Then you might miss reviews addressing technical issues that prevent people from actually playing it.

That doesn't matter to me. The pro's far outweight the cons to create this filter.
If Valve doesn't want to go for Steam Explorer, then why not test this sub-2hr filter out?

Originally posted by Count_Dandyman:

Overall doesn't just mean the people that liked the game enough to not refund and keep playing .

Or the people who chose not to review the game.

Look, I know you think your idea is great, and everything. But it really isn't. Apart from what I already listed, there's this little detail that "playtime" doesn't actually mean "time played", it means "time the game was running". I mean sure, if someone is at 100+ hours you can be relatively sure they actually played the game, but at 2 hours they might have just been farming cards.

[Ecchi Zone]

What about people who play games offline and stuff? It could be the cause of low playtime as well. Steam does not track offline hours so you could play a game like skyrim for 400 hours offline and it would still show only what you played while steam was online.

[Quint the Alligator Snapper]

Would be good to have a playtime filter, both ways. Not a hard prohibition on low playtime reviews, but let the user choose what to filter.

[Blitz4]

If somebody doesn't own a game or was gifted a game, I don't want their review to be counted in the score that I use to make my informed decision if I should buy a game. If I had a choice, I would rather only see reviews from people who actually beat the game. I can't think of an automated filter for 'beating the game' so to me, playtime is 2nd best.

[Count_Dandyman]

Originally posted by Blitz4:

If somebody doesn't own a game or was gifted a game, I don't want their review to be counted in the score that I use to make my informed decision if I should buy a game. If I had a choice, I would rather only see reviews from people who actually beat the game. I can't think of an automated filter for 'beating the game' so to me, playtime is 2nd best.

Steam doesn't allow you to review a game without owning it and heres a little shock for you the way someone gets a game doesn't alter its quality or how it plays.

But don't worry you are exactly the type of customer publishers love the one that will ignore any negative review if the game is bad enough that it isn't worth finishing while lapping up whatever praise the few people deep enough in the games rabbit hole to finish it spit out. In other words an easy buck for whatever yearly tat they churn out.

[Blitz4]

Originally posted by Count_Dandyman:

Steam doesn't allow you to review a game without owning it and heres a little shock for you the way someone gets a game doesn't alter its quality or how it plays.

Yes they do, after you return it.
Correct on the second point, but the price of a game is reflected in the review score of a game, thus a free game would get a higher review score.

Is it so bad to want more filters so I can make more informed decisions? Especially during Steam sales, I want to know what games are trending upwards in their past-90 day review score%.

[Count_Dandyman]

Originally posted by Blitz4:

Originally posted by Count_Dandyman:

Steam doesn't allow you to review a game without owning it and heres a little shock for you the way someone gets a game doesn't alter its quality or how it plays.

Yes they do, after you return it.
Correct on the second point, but the price of a game is reflected in the review score of a game, thus a free game would get a higher review score.

Is it so bad to want more filters so I can make more informed decisions? Especially during Steam sales, I want to know what games are trending upwards in their past-90 day review score%.

You say you want to exclude free reviews because they will be higher but ignore the simple fact that people who play longer are the people that like the game enough to want to play more so will be even higher.

AS for wanting to see which ones are trending up over any period of time you can already do that by looking at the charts which you can customise to show whichever period of time you want.

[Blitz4]

Originally posted by Count_Dandyman:

You say you want to exclude free reviews because they will be higher but ignore the simple fact that people who play longer are the people that like the game enough to want to play more so will be even higher.

AS for wanting to see which ones are trending up over any period of time you can already do that by looking at the charts which you can customise to show whichever period of time you want.

So, I'm basing a buying decision on these reviews. You don't expect a professional critic to play a game for 2 hours, bail out and give it a 1/10. You expect him to slog through the entire game so you don't have to. I will give more weight to any review that has more playtime and there are high playtime scores that are negative, some games become a repetitive grind and that thumb down after 100 hours is way more valuable to me than a thumb down after 1 hour.

You can not do that. I can not go into all games and say 'show me the cumulative review score from reviews with over 10 hours of gameplay' or 'show me only review scores from the past 90 days' or 'show me only the review score from reviewers who beat the game' or 'show me only the review score from people who gotten this achievement.'

[Ecchi Zone]

Originally posted by Blitz4:

Originally posted by Count_Dandyman:

You say you want to exclude free reviews because they will be higher but ignore the simple fact that people who play longer are the people that like the game enough to want to play more so will be even higher.

AS for wanting to see which ones are trending up over any period of time you can already do that by looking at the charts which you can customise to show whichever period of time you want.

So, I'm basing a buying decision on these reviews. You don't expect a professional critic to play a game for 2 hours, bail out and give it a 1/10. You expect him to slog through the entire game so you don't have to. I will give more weight to any review that has more playtime and there are high playtime scores that are negative, some games become a repetitive grind and that thumb down after 100 hours is way more valuable to me than a thumb down after 1 hour.

You can not do that. I can not go into all games and say 'show me the cumulative review score from reviews with over 10 hours of gameplay' or 'show me only review scores from the past 90 days' or 'show me only the review score from reviewers who beat the game.'

People can still beat the game offline though the hours can be wrong. For instance I played danganronpa for around 40 - 45+ hours but most of those were offline so steam didnt count those hours so it shows around 13 for the time i was playing while online. What I am trying to say is even the low time reviews are still important due to that and for the technical problems they could mention.

[Blitz4]

Originally posted by SXH:

People can still beat the game offline though the hours can be wrong. For instance I played danganronpa for around 40 - 45+ hours but most of those were offline so steam didnt count those hours so it shows around 13 for the time i was playing while online. What I am trying to say is even the low time reviews are still important due to that and for the technical problems they could mention.

I used to speed run Dark Souls and beat it hundreds of times on console. It's the same game on PC, my review would've been valid, but since Steam can't verify that I beat the game on PC my review shouldn't be visible to people who only want to see the review score from people who actually beat the game. I played a modded X3 for over 2000 cumulative hours offline because the modder was worried that Steam would auto-override the modded files.

Should the hours in those two scenario's count to show my review to people who only want to see review scores from people who beat the game? No.

[Ecchi Zone]

Originally posted by Blitz4:

Originally posted by SXH:

People can still beat the game offline though the hours can be wrong. For instance I played danganronpa for around 40 - 45+ hours but most of those were offline so steam didnt count those hours so it shows around 13 for the time i was playing while online. What I am trying to say is even the low time reviews are still important due to that and for the technical problems they could mention.

I used to speed run Dark Souls and beat it hundreds of times on console. It's the same game on PC, my review would've been valid, but since Steam can't verify that I beat the game on PC my review shouldn't be visible to people who only want to see the review score from people who actually beat the game. I played a modded X3 for over 2000 cumulative hours offline because the modder was worried that Steam would auto-override the modded files.

Should the hours in those two scenario's count to show my review to people who only want to see review scores from people who beat the game? No.

You still earn acheivements offline I earned some from sao hollowfragment while playing without an internet connection. and those achievements are usually pertaining to how you beat the game or such. The same thing is true for when I played daganronpa. And in order to write a review you must be online at the time of writing otherwise it obviously will not go through. So by the time you write it and have beaten the game offline, you would be online again and still have those achievments showing you beat the game. Only the hours would not show because steam does not count hours offline. So even so wouldnt it remain the same but just with less hours? You can lose achiements you already got after all.