Steam sales are not sales anymore

[StanicEnemy]

Every single year,winter,summer etc sales, they all are the same,every game i want to buy,they all are on the same sale price and there is no point to buy them anymore if every game wiill be on a fixed sale price.Even games that released on 201X are expensive on sale.

[LunaFortuna]

Steam doesn't set the prices. The people who made the game set the prices. Steam cannot, by any circumstances, control the prices of the sale. The people who made the game have 100% control.

Steam does take a % cut of the final sale price, though, which keeps many publishers from going too low on prices, because they're well aware that Steam also has to make money, and they do this by taking a % of the selling price that an item sells for.

Still, Steam really has no control whatsoever.

[Mivo]

It's a free market. If you dislike a discount in one place, you can see if another authorized reseller offers better discounts that meet your expectations. If you can't find a price that you feel is low enough, buy different games or wait.

[StanicEnemy]

Publicado originalmente por LunaFortuna:

Steam doesn't set the prices. The people who made the game set the prices. Steam cannot, by any circumstances, control the prices of the sale. The people who made the game have 100% control.

Steam does take a % cut of the final sale price, though, which keeps many publishers from going too low on prices, because they're well aware that Steam also has to make money, and they do this by taking a % of the selling price that an item sells for.

Still, Steam really has no control whatsoever.

You want me to expect to write down all these game publishers? really?

Publicado originalmente por Mivo:

It's a free market. If you dislike a discount in one place, you can see if another authorized reseller offers better discounts that meet your expectations. If you can't find a price that you feel is low enough, buy different games or wait.

Discounts are not discounts,they put the same prices on,always and forever.
Discounts are actually how much the game would worth for.Real prices just rip off.

[LunaFortuna]

Publicado originalmente por StanicEnemy:

Publicado originalmente por LunaFortuna:

Steam doesn't set the prices. The people who made the game set the prices. Steam cannot, by any circumstances, control the prices of the sale. The people who made the game have 100% control.

Steam does take a % cut of the final sale price, though, which keeps many publishers from going too low on prices, because they're well aware that Steam also has to make money, and they do this by taking a % of the selling price that an item sells for.

Still, Steam really has no control whatsoever.

You want me to expect to write down all these game publishers? really?

Publicado originalmente por Mivo:

It's a free market. If you dislike a discount in one place, you can see if another authorized reseller offers better discounts that meet your expectations. If you can't find a price that you feel is low enough, buy different games or wait.

Discounts are not discounts,they put the same prices on,always and forever.
Discounts are actually how much the game would worth for.Real prices just rip off.

Um, please explain how I expected you to write down anything or do anything.

Let me simplify it.
Steam is a free market.
Steam doesn't set the prices of anything.
Publishers set prices and sale prices.
Steam takes a commission fee % of every selling game because it sold through them.
Steam has no control and doesn't tell how to price games because that's for the makers of the games to figure out.

I don't know where your "You want me to expect to write down all these game publishers? really?" comment came from, when aimed at my original post, but alrighty then.

Steam is not the place to complain on this issue. If you have a game that you want to buy and the price isn't to your liking, go complain about it to the people who made the game, because they're the ones who make prices on here, not Steam.

[StanicEnemy]

Publicado originalmente por LunaFortuna:

Publicado originalmente por StanicEnemy:

You want me to expect to write down all these game publishers? really?




Discounts are not discounts,they put the same prices on,always and forever.
Discounts are actually how much the game would worth for.Real prices just rip off.

Um, please explain how I expected you to write down anything or do anything.

Let me simplify it.
Steam is a free market.
Steam doesn't set the prices of anything.
Publishers set prices and sale prices.
Steam takes a commission fee % of every selling game because it sold through them.
Steam has no control and doesn't tell how to price games because that's for the makers of the games to figure out.

I don't know where your "You want me to expect to write down all these game publishers? really?" comment came from, when aimed at my original post, but alrighty then.

Steam is not the place to complain on this issue. If you have a game that you want to buy and the price isn't to your liking, go complain about it to the people who made the game, because they're the ones who make prices on here, not Steam.

You dont understand or you dont want to understand.

Let me simplify it.
I have been here for so long, i know everything about steam.

[noir_7]

Publicado originalmente por StanicEnemy:

I have been here for so long, i know everything about steam.

[Tito Shivan]

Publicado originalmente por StanicEnemy:

Let me simplify it.
I have been here for so long, i know everything about steam.

Then you should know why Sales work the way they do and why they've changed.

[Sammy]

Yeah, I remember when Steam sales were actually exciting events and the discounts were insane, you actually really wanted to snap up that game because you didn't know when you've ever see such a good discount ever again. Nowadays though it's all so predictable, it's like the sales are done via a formula, if the game is 4 months old, the discount is 10%, 6 months it's 15% and so on, there's no point really buying much because there's no rush.

[Mivo]

Publicado originalmente por Sammy:

Nowadays though it's all so predictable, it's like the sales are done via a formula, if the game is 4 months old, the discount is 10%, 6 months it's 15% and so on, there's no point really buying much because there's no rush.

I don't see these patterns for most games. Some games get small discounts, some get deep discounts, and relatively fast (the new Tomb Raider for example).

I think what makes me buy fewer games during major sales isn't really the size of the discounts, but the high frequency of discounts. There are "too many" sales in the sense that you rarely have to wait for long for a game or a Steam key to go on sale somewhere, so I seldom feel the need to "stock up" on games anymore during sales.

[76561198001062896]

Publicado originalmente por StanicEnemy:

Publicado originalmente por LunaFortuna:

Um, please explain how I expected you to write down anything or do anything.

Let me simplify it.
Steam is a free market.
Steam doesn't set the prices of anything.
Publishers set prices and sale prices.
Steam takes a commission fee % of every selling game because it sold through them.
Steam has no control and doesn't tell how to price games because that's for the makers of the games to figure out.

I don't know where your "You want me to expect to write down all these game publishers? really?" comment came from, when aimed at my original post, but alrighty then.

Steam is not the place to complain on this issue. If you have a game that you want to buy and the price isn't to your liking, go complain about it to the people who made the game, because they're the ones who make prices on here, not Steam.

You dont understand or you dont want to understand.

Let me simplify it.
I have been here for so long, i know everything about steam.

yet you know so little

btw you arent entitled to low prices

[Carmarkcaine]

Publicado originalmente por StanicEnemy:

Every single year,winter,summer etc sales, they all are the same,every game i want to buy,they all are on the same sale price and there is no point to buy them anymore if every game wiill be on a fixed sale price.Even games that released on 201X are expensive on sale.

I agree. There is nothing to se here anymore. They got too big. Start supporting the competition, and they may have to try harder.

[Carmarkcaine]

Publicado originalmente por Mivo:

Publicado originalmente por Sammy:

Nowadays though it's all so predictable, it's like the sales are done via a formula, if the game is 4 months old, the discount is 10%, 6 months it's 15% and so on, there's no point really buying much because there's no rush.

I don't see these patterns for most games. Some games get small discounts, some get deep discounts, and relatively fast (the new Tomb Raider for example).

I think what makes me buy fewer games during major sales isn't really the size of the discounts, but the high frequency of discounts. There are "too many" sales in the sense that you rarely have to wait for long for a game or a Steam key to go on sale somewhere, so I seldom feel the need to "stock up" on games anymore during sales.

I do not agree. I remember sales on steam, that were 85 - 95 % off, on "older" games and usually 75% off on newer games.
The price is a huge factor, for most people.

[SPG]

There was a time when devs were thrilled to get their games on Steam and were more than willing to go along with Steam's philosophy at the time, which was high discounts = more volume = more money.

Steam highly suggested prices to devs and they followed that advice. Steam actually used to work at this.

However, everything has changed and Valve handed over all control to the devs, and no longer works at influencing sale prices or working with devs to make sales special events for the customers.

Their success has made Valve lazy with both the devs and the end users and now they are going to pay a price for it as all good will with both groups has been spent.

[Tito Shivan]

Publicado originalmente por Mivo:

I think what makes me buy fewer games during major sales isn't really the size of the discounts, but the high frequency of discounts. There are "too many" sales in the sense that you rarely have to wait for long for a game or a Steam key to go on sale somewhere, so I seldom feel the need to "stock up" on games anymore during sales.

Steam used to be the big fish of the barrel. Now there's so many stores thriving for sales that not even accounting Steam sales you can get a discounted game every other tuesday.

Of course that's not the only reason why sale discounts changed overtime. It's a multifactored situation.

[Taktloss]

People got spoiled really fast the last few years and oversimplify the whole "issue" or their expectation are way to high.

PS: Remember the times before Steam ^^