Why doesn't Valve make games anymore from the millions of dollars they are making off microtransactions?

[plop]

Valve is sucking in millions of dollars off microtransactions from their games such as CS:GO, TF2, etc. These include cases, crates, keys, skins, cosmetics, and others. My question is why don't they use their greedy earnings to create a new game such as HL3, possibly, and maybe others to come? Please leave your thoughts and opinions down below.

[Radene]

Publicado originalmente por Start_Running:

Publicado originalmente por Radene:

No, the job of a business is to provide a service. Making money is its goal/desire, not its job.

Got that backwards.

Do you go to work every day because you want to spend 10 hours there or because you need the money to allow you to do the things you actually want to do?

A business exists to make money. The service or product is a means to that end. Businesses who get that order messed up tend to be start-up casualties.

No, I got that forwards. Money is the compensation for the service. As long as your service is quality and in demand, money will come. Businesses who get that backwards tend to be shady third-party CS: GO sites.

As for my job, if it was all about money, I wouldn't last a week. Sure, I don't work for free, but you can't do what I do purely "for the money".

Think Bill Gates works 80-hr weeks for the money?

[The Maddog]

Publicado originalmente por Ploptastic:

Valve is sucking in millions of dollars off microtransactions from their games such as CS:GO, TF2, etc. These include cases, crates, keys, skins, cosmetics, and others. My question is why don't they use their greedy earnings to create a new game such as HL3, possibly, and maybe others to come? Please leave your thoughts and opinions down below.

1) They are making new games and developing new areas for gaming (I'll come back to this).

2) They help fund the development of numerous 3rd party games from development schemes.

2) You can call Valve "greedy" all you want but thats just childish petulant and pedantic. They're no better or worse than any developer who is ultimetly in the game to make money. Valve are a business after all and they acctually have a solid strategy with Steam. If you're so offended by Valves greed maybe you should stop buying games on Steam?


So..since you're clearly not up to date, Valve have been very busy the last 5 years. Just because you've not seen the work does not mean it hasnt happened.

First off, their new game Artifact (what ever it is..not my thing) is out soon

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2018/08/valves-first-new-game-in-5-years-artifact-coming-in-november-starting-at-20/


Second (and most importantly) Valve have made a huge push to get VR to market. Like..seriously huge (probably because Oculus took loads of tech from Valve then sold it to Facebook).

Somewhere between 1/3rd to half of Valves employees now work on VR related projects.

https://www.theverge.com/2016/6/22/11999014/about-a-third-of-valve-is-now-working-on-vr

They launched the SteamVR partnership program and are working with over 700 companies incluing the likes of Google, Microsoft, Intel, Nvidia, AMD etc etc to further VR.


They developed the SteamVR platform and the Vive (though partnered with HTC for them to make the Vive though other companies are following suit). They've just started releasing the second wave SteamVR 2.0 hardware as well.

https://www.roadtovr.com/developers-now-receiving-steamvr-2-0-base-stations/

These are coupled with their new Knuckles controllers.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/22/17494332/valve-knuckles-ev2-steamvr-controller-development-kit-shipments-portal-moondust-demo

Both bits of hardware are to be / being supplied to headset manufactuers (not just HTC) so there will soon be a range of VR headsets at cheaper more affordable prices.


They've been constantly developing and supporting SteamVR


https://store.steampowered.com/steamvr


and even released some nice VR mini games.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/450390/The_Lab/

https://www.vrfocus.com/2018/06/valve-have-released-a-new-vr-portal-demo/


They're developing 3, yes 3 full length AAA titles for VR.


http://www.alphr.com/games/1008756/valve-making-games-VR-half-life-3

Valve also helped develop such titles as Budget Cuts.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/400940/Budget_Cuts/


I can keep going on with all the work Valve HAS done but I'm sure you get it now.



Point is, all those examples I just linked are the tip of the iceberg. Makes Zero diffrence if you care about or belive in VR or not. I'm not here to debate that. Gabe Newel does and he's 100% convinced it's the next big frontier..it'll just take up to 10 years for mass adoption in his eyes (and we are only on year 2).

https://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/291225/Gabe_Newell_opens_up_about_Valves_VR_plans.php

That is where Valve is focused for the forseable future. They want to improve and refine the tech and grow the eco system. It may be niche today but so was Steam when that first launched. So yeah...they're making stuff alright. Whether you choose to buy into Valves vision or not is up to you.

[Start_Running]

Well we are at the point where VR can actually start making inroads. It's biggest barrier to entry is the cost factor.

[Count_Dandyman]

Publicado originalmente por Start_Running:

Well we are at the point where VR can actually start making inroads. It's biggest barrier to entry is the cost factor.

yep and its already overcoming the limits last time of poor quality bulky tech and lack of software options.

[Start_Running]

Publicado originalmente por Count_Dandyman:

Publicado originalmente por Start_Running:

Well we are at the point where VR can actually start making inroads. It's biggest barrier to entry is the cost factor.

yep and its already overcoming the limits last time of poor quality bulky tech and lack of software options.

The lack of software options came from the lack of confidence. No one's gonna spend the time to develoop software for something that has very little market share or perceived growth potential.

WHat sets this apprat is that Valve asi it is with other areas, is encouraging the adoption of open rather than proprietary standards. Open has the benefit of giving hardware and software developers a consistent target and instruction set.

[The Rock God]

Publicado originalmente por Start_Running:

Valve is making money so why aren't they building giant monuments?

Or are they? Valve is pretty secretive. Maybe they're currently finalizing their plan to reshape Mt. Everest into a bust of Gabe's face.

To borrow from another thread: I have seen no proof that that's not true.

[Start_Running]

Publicado originalmente por The Rock God:

To borrow from another thread: I have seen no proof that that's not true.

That made every scientific part of my being angry.

[The Maddog]

Publicado originalmente por Start_Running:

Well we are at the point where VR can actually start making inroads. It's biggest barrier to entry is the cost factor.

Well....yeah. Headset costs and high end Pc requirements have not helped...BUT...as the next wave of GPUs starts to approach even the budget models should be VR capable and the next wave of SteamVR 2.0 headsets should be out sooner rather than later. I'd guess a year from now it'll be significanly cheaper to get into VR than it is today.

[Mis7ral]

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[Start_Running]

Publicado originalmente por The Maddog:

Publicado originalmente por Start_Running:

Well we are at the point where VR can actually start making inroads. It's biggest barrier to entry is the cost factor.

Well....yeah. Headset costs and high end Pc requirements have not helped...BUT...as the next wave of GPUs starts to approach even the budget models should be VR capable and the next wave of SteamVR 2.0 headsets should be out sooner rather than later. I'd guess a year from now it'll be significanly cheaper to get into VR than it is today.

Next wave... think about that. You're still telling peeople to buy new hardware..

[The Maddog]

Publicado originalmente por Start_Running:

Publicado originalmente por The Maddog:

Well....yeah. Headset costs and high end Pc requirements have not helped...BUT...as the next wave of GPUs starts to approach even the budget models should be VR capable and the next wave of SteamVR 2.0 headsets should be out sooner rather than later. I'd guess a year from now it'll be significanly cheaper to get into VR than it is today.

Next wave... think about that. You're still telling peeople to buy new hardware..

When it comes to all things PC, sooner or later, new hardware is inevitable.

[Fizzban]

I am probably in a minority, but I don't care about Valve making games anymore. They couldn't be bothered to finish off the series that made them famous, so ♥♥♥♥ em. They can barely hold the beast-that-is-Steam together as it is. I'm ok with them not making games. They need to focus more on the platform. They need to actually moderate the kinda games that go on sale, before they loose what small credibilty they have left. Also, Tencent is coming..

[AustrAlien2010]

They still make games. You should really get your facts straight before you write anything.

[Start_Running]

Publicado originalmente por The Maddog:

Publicado originalmente por Start_Running:

Next wave... think about that. You're still telling peeople to buy new hardware..

When it comes to all things PC, sooner or later, new hardware is inevitable.

Yup but that inevitability... well to put it this way. the PC I game with turned 10 years this year.

Publicado originalmente por Fizzban:

I am probably in a minority, but I don't care about Valve making games anymore. They couldn't be bothered to finish off the series that made them famous, so ♥♥♥♥ em.

Maybe they did finish it. Look up "The Italian Job"

[The B1tcher]

Publicado originalmente por Fizzban:

I am probably in a minority, but I don't care about Valve making games anymore. They couldn't be bothered to finish off the series that made them famous, so ♥♥♥♥ em.

♥♥♥♥♥, i cant dispute that