Why Valve are approving games like this?

[VλλK CSGOSKINS]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/847250/GAY_Nation_a_Gay_Game_for_Gays_GAYS_ONLY/
visual novel games went to far
first drama and love story then showing sexuall underaged girl to full hentai visual novel games
now they are approving this "gay game"
https://store.steampowered.com/app/866890/Active_Shooter/
now this game
"Real Life situations"
looks like this game want to get attention from the last shooting events that occured
like how valve approved them in the first place?

[Seraphita]

Again, you're only trying to send a guilt trip because you're like "Oh noes, my morality cannot accept such thing and so nobody should". I love how you like to see evil in this topic considering that I made clear that I perfectly know the difference between ANIME loli and real life child porn.

Anybody I know would tell you that I'm a perfectly stable and even protective person in life and that my little goddesses won't really hurt anybody. It bothers you because you can't accept such thing but you fail to consider that there is much worse around the internet. Lot of sick people...

And yet, I won't go to them to tell them that their fetishes or whatever is disgusting. As for what the steam store is about, you're only attacking the games (or people) because you're a pervert who's seeing the sexual and dark side of things. Not even sure I wanna know what you're hiding.

As for what's suggestive... It's time for humanity to evolve. Steam should have its adult section.

TL;DR: Anime is okay, child porn is NOT. And I am not seeing any of the latter on Steam. So...

[Seraphita]

Originally posted by Spawk:

Nearly two-thirds of the most recent anime-themed visual novels on Steam feature sexualized underage looking characters. You are defending this and calling these characters 'little goddesses'. Let that sink in for a second before Chris Hansen shows up at your doorstep.

Ooooor, I won't give a ♥♥♥♥. Your trolling, that I seriously enjoy replying to, resumes to nothing but being offended about something that isn't real then accusing people of being dangerous to what is real. "Oh noes, you like lolis? You totally must be a sicko looking to hurt real children". Hmm...

It sounds like some familiar trolling I've heard before when someone was attacking me for being a furry. One side, I like lolis, I am dangerous for children. The others, I like furries, I am dangerous for animals. And yet, I like furry lolis as well. Am I dangerous for baby animals? OMG. So wrong.

Originally posted by Spawk:

https://steamcdn-a.akamaihd.net/steam/apps/828580/ss_1f424c6c1a824e2c6b448bde95b57ab25711d68a.jpg

It appears to me you've been looking at this stuff for so long that you've lost sight of how messed up it is.

Except I haven't. Most lolis I have if not all will either be solo or involve yuri. Not that it changes anything to you but then again, I am not into very explicit loli either. Only in ecchi ones and I will still think that it's fine since it will never give me the idea of wanting to molest a real child... Wtf...

Because obviously... It's sick AND stupid. Just as your attempt to see me as dangerous is stupid.

[Seraphita]

Originally posted by Spawk:

Originally posted by Zero:

Ooooor, I won't give a ♥♥♥♥. Your trolling, that I seriously enjoy replying to, resumes to nothing but being offended about something that isn't real then accusing people of being dangerous to what is real. "Oh noes, you like lolis? You totally must be a sicko looking to hurt real children". Hmm...

It sounds like some familiar trolling I've heard before when someone was attacking me for being a furry. One side, I like lolis, I am dangerous for children. The others, I like furries, I am dangerous for animals. And yet, I like furry lolis as well. Am I dangerous for baby animals? OMG.

Please be sure to elaborate on what you think is trolling here. Is trolling not agreeing with you? Because I don't see any trolling here.

Your bait. Period. There is a different between "disagreeing with someone" and literally attacking them and their reputation just because they like things you don't. And you've easily attacked me over 3 or 4 times now because you can't stand my little goddesses. Which is funny because...

Every times I mentioned those, you NEVER knew what I really was talking about. You simply assumed that I called EVERY lolis by that name when in fact, I really have a collection of pics that are extremely good quality artwork (anime, to be clear) of goddess level of adorable lolis...

You are free to disagree with me, nobody stole you that right. But if you attack someone just because they like something you don't, you enter a fine line of trolling you shoudn't step in. I thought you were smarter than that but no, it seems you really are trying to attack my reputation.

I'll be clear once more, I like lolis while understanding that they are anime characters and I really don't look at real life children the same way I do for lolis. Not sure what kind of monster you think I am but maybe you should learn to understand the others before you jump on sillyness train?

Now for what you judge morally acceptable or unacceptable, maybe you should find something better to do like going to argue with people in game forums like you used to do or something...

[Crazy Tiger]

Originally posted by Spawk:

And don't give me that 'it's just the artwork's style' or 'she may actually be a 1,000 years old' bullcrap. If you get aroused by looking at a child's body, you're getting aroused by looking at a child's body. And there's no mistaking that's the intention of the visuals.

I'm curious, who is the one that's "wrong" here?
- The one reading/playing the VN and seeing a 1000 year old woman.
- The one who looks at the picture and says it's an underage girl.

[Seraphita]

Um... I work with children currently. And EVERY single employers trust me. The internet is a dark place where dreams and etc exist. People will always judge others for different reasons just like you are but I am someone who is trusted because I'm not the sicko you think I am. In fact, one of them know I like loli and even find them adorable like heck. Most of my friends know it as well...

Obviously, the adult topic remains between adults (if adult topic exists in the first place). Sadly for you, I'm a perfectly functional human being. Well, in your mind, I'm a dangerous pedo but since you don't really understand the topic, your points are not really as valid as you want them to be.

I love furries as well, btw. Pretty sure nobody is keeping me away of their animals even if they know I like furries. Heck, many of my friends like furries as well. One of them think you're a little crazy but he says people on the internet are crazy in general anyway. You just fight stuff you don't like because you want to feel righteous or something. You could just ignore their existence.

[Seraphita]

So you're saying that you're purposely discussing a topic you understand nothing about just because you can? Interesting... It's just the same as the trolls I sometimes talk to, then. All about the "You're wrong and what you like is wrong" and trying to attack someone with your morality.

[Crazy Tiger]

Originally posted by Spawk:

Originally posted by patje.lol:

I'm curious, who is the one that's "wrong" here?
- The one reading/playing the VN and seeing a 1000 year old woman.
- The one who looks at the picture and says it's an underage girl.

You're not seeing a 1,000 year old woman. You're seeing a drawing of a child and a legal loophole.

I'm seeing a 1000 year old woman, cause that's what it is.

[Seraphita]

Because you're the same as those anti-furries dumbasses who think liking furries automatically lead to want to ♥♥♥♥ animals. Your version is "Lolis automatically lead to want to ♥♥♥♥ children"...

It's shocking but it's literally what you're on about. Hence all the "Fbi should totally arrest you" ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that you keep spouting around. If you don't have to play these games, don't play them. Do even better, ignore and block them and never look at them again. How hard is that for you?

Oh and yeah, you are not qualified to know what you're talking about. What you give however are your opinions about why you find it disgusting, which are countered by my opinions about why I think it's fine because it's not real child porn. Nothing sexually objective is shown in the images.

You take something suggestive (in an ANIME VN) and flip a table because you find it morally unacceptable. I wouldn't care if the game gets removed but keep it to the game itself and not to the people who don't mind this content. Nobody here is defending REAL LIFE child porn. So ya.

[Pan Paka Pan]

Originally posted by Spawk:

Originally posted by Zero:

Again, you're only trying to send a guilt trip because you're like "Oh noes, my morality cannot accept such thing and so nobody should". I love how you like to see evil in this topic considering that I made clear that I perfectly know the difference between ANIME loli and real life child porn.

Anybody I know would tell you that I'm a perfectly stable and even protective person in life and that my little goddesses won't really hurt anybody. It bothers you because you can't accept such thing but you fail to consider that there is much worse around the internet. Lot of sick people...

And yet, I won't go to them to tell them that their fetishes or whatever is disgusting. As for what the steam store is about, you're only attacking the games (or people) because you're a pervert who's seeing the sexual and dark side of things. Not even sure I wanna know what you're hiding.

As for what's suggestive... It's time for humanity to evolve. Steam should have its adult section.

You are defending this and calling these characters 'little goddesses'. Let that sink in for a second before Chris Hansen shows up at your doorstep.

You play GTAV. Let that sink in for a second before Chris Hansen shows up at your doorstep.
You are constantly killing innocent people and stealing their cars, committing lots of grave crimes and bad stuff. See how that works?

This is what happens when you can’t separate fiction from reality.

[Seraphita]

Originally posted by Spawk:

I think it's very creepy, as I have stated repeatedly before. The images are clearly sexualized. There's no debating that. If you think that's fine or even seek it out, then I'm free to say I think that's creepy.

And bam. This is ALL you have to say. Who stole your right to claim it's creepy? I find the gore fetish creepy and yes, it's a thing. (Okay creepy is light. I find it absolutely horrifying) but I won't try to fight it. You don't know me, you don't know what kind of lolis I like so I take offense in your BS against me. Then again, you'd cross me in real life that you wouldn't even guess I like them.

If what I like creeps you, what some people like creeps me as well and I still won't lose my mind over it. You like to lecture me about trolls who get me to reply to them but you apply exactly the same logic as they do except by changing the words "furries" and "animals" to "loli" and "child".

How does that make you better than them? Please tell me that. Or is it fine only when it's one thing you find morally unacceptable and therefore you must voice it and fight it at any costs...?

You have the right to your opinions but you're on the internet, not in kindergarden. You'll see things you don't like or that you judge morally wrong. Still doesn't mean you should be like this.

Originally posted by Old Tiger 🐯:

You play GTAV. Let that sink in for a second before Chris Hansen shows up at your doorstep.
You are constantly killing innocent people and stealing their cars, committing lots of grave crimes and bad stuff. See how that works?

This is what happens when you can’t separate fiction from reality.

True fact. Maybe this person is armed and prepare to go shoot people in the streets. O.M.G...

[Seraphita]

Originally posted by Spawk:

Originally posted by Zero:

You have the right to your opinions but you're on the internet, not in kindergarden.

That seems like a poor choice of words in this topic :)

Sure does. But you're supposedly smart. You know what I talk about. If you don't and still try to dance around instead of getting my point, you're no better than all the trolls I always reply to. =/

[Crazy Tiger]

Originally posted by Spawk:

I think it's very creepy, as I have stated repeatedly before. The images are clearly sexualized. There's no debating that. If you think that's fine or even seek it out, then I'm free to say I think that's creepy.

You're saying that it's "clearly" and that "there is no debating that". But who are you to decide that?
Isn't it the point of Zero and others that it's not so "clearly"?

[Pan Paka Pan]

Spawk, just curious. How can you play GTA and then say people who watch anime/manga/novel have mental problems or something really wrong? Does this means who plays GTA is also dangerous people? Or does this doesn’t affect stuff you like?
You sound like “my game is completely safe, but yours is wrong”.

Disclaimer: I don’t like visual novels nor violent games like GTA, I’m more of a Monster Hunter player... well by your logic I guess I must be pretty dangerous to animals... oh I have a dog by the way, it’s a good boy!

[Crazy Tiger]

Originally posted by Spawk:

Originally posted by Old Tiger 🐯:

Spawk, just curious. How can you play GTA and then say people who watch anime/manga/novel have mental problems or something really wrong? Does this means who plays GTA is also dangerous people? Or does this doesn’t affect stuff you like?
You sound like “my game is completely safe, but yours is wrong”.

Disclaimer: I don’t like visual novels nor violent games like GTA, I’m more of a Monster Hunter player... well by your logic I guess I must be pretty dangerous to animals... oh I have a dog by the way, it’s a good boy!

Because GTA V is not specifically focused on getting me aroused by showing me images of little girls in sexual situations or various states of undress, whereas the aforementioned visual novels' premise is largely focused around titillating artwork and stories of a sexual or suggestive nature, which I find in far more bad taste, and which is far less socially acceptable. I like me some sexy stuff as much as the next guy, but not that.

But GTA 5 is focused on violently killing people and committing crimes. Are you saying that the torture mission with Trevor is better?

[Seraphita]

Originally posted by Spawk:

Because GTA V is not specifically focused on getting me aroused by showing me images of little girls in sexual situations or various states of undress, whereas the aforementioned visual novels' premise is largely focused around titillating artwork and stories of a sexual or suggestive nature, which I find in far more bad taste, and which is far less socially acceptable. I like me some sexy stuff as much as the next guy, but not that.

You have different tastes, then. And it's perfectly fine. You should leave those who like certain things alone and not bother them with your convictions that what they do is wrong. I could find morally unacceptable that you play a game where you shoot anybody you like anytime you like.

But I won't do that because I don't wanna be like the trolls who target me for furries and lolis...