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scambammer May 26, 2018 @ 10:33pm
can a developer permanently ban you for having a bad tone?
when you didnt say anything offensive, didn't curse, didn't insult? Just didn't sound happy?
is there a recourse? just submit a ticket I suppose?

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999999999 May 26, 2018 @ 10:34pm 
Rules apply everywhere? Yes.

Read https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=4045-USHJ-3810

They are in charge of their game hub though.

If you want to appeal it, contact support.
Last edited by 999999999; May 26, 2018 @ 10:35pm
scambammer May 26, 2018 @ 10:34pm 
because you know you spend money not only for the game on steam but to interact with the game's community. I can understand a temporary ban but a permanent ban should be for severe cases no?
scambammer May 26, 2018 @ 10:37pm 
'flaming' is a pretty broad term. What one person considers blunt criticism another could consider to be 'flaming'
Sable May 26, 2018 @ 10:49pm 
There are a lot of thin-skinned game devs who can't take any criticism at all.

Case in point: Mac Walters, the guy who wrote the ending to Mass Effect 3, started getting butthurt when people called out how crappy it was. He banned people off Bioware forums for that and said "I hope you make a game some day, so you know how it feels when others ♥♥♥♥ on it. Enjoy your ban."

If they ban you, post your criticism somewhere else where they can't block or censor you.

We're on the Internet, there will always be a place where we can be heard.
scambammer May 26, 2018 @ 11:34pm 
ya man, that's true. I left a negative review detailing my issues and he is floundering attaching screenshots to my review, in his counter, of our conversations including a private email I sent to be polite and keep much of it of out of the public eye (which only strengthen my argument and highlight his hypersensitivity)... unreal though, I wasnt even attacking him or his game and he goes all ban hammer on me. Merely frustrated with myself and half suggesting possibly the first difficulty spike was fairly abrupt and scoffing at his 'maybe this game isnt for you' response...any devs reading this - dont give : 'maybe this game isnt for you' responses to a guy that bought your library
BossGalaga May 27, 2018 @ 1:29am 
Originally posted by Thylacine Studios (developer) Posted: May 27 @ 12:02pm:
I'll let these screenshots speak for themselves:

https://i.gyazo.com/3bb60364f46411bfcc396cbe7d2575f3.png

https://i.gyazo.com/a99e6e89a9cfd9e9e9c97b7b73564e55.png

After this, he opened another topic:

https://i.gyazo.com/de1aa23d03d38c005269a788561e6864.png

And then even more harassment via e-mail...

https://i.gyazo.com/b0490e47f82d56b139ddea671ef23f5f.png

In your email, you also threaten the dev to remove your ban or that you'll leave your bad review so it seems obvious that your review is bs.
Fear dot Com May 27, 2018 @ 3:07am 
It's possible. I got permabanned from a games discussion a year or so ago...and I didn't even write any snarky remarks (granted it was a terrible game anyway, so no real loss to me :P).
FFL2and3rocks May 27, 2018 @ 3:21am 
Originally posted by scambammer:
a private email I sent to be polite

Polite?

Originally posted by the email:
What in the world is wrong with you?

Originally posted by the email:
How on Earth can you be so ridiculously sensitive?

But to answer your question, yes, they are allowed to ban you for your tone.

Hostility doesn't require insults. If he doesn't want you in his forum anymore because he doesn't like your holier-than-thou attitude, then that's his choice.
Last edited by FFL2and3rocks; May 27, 2018 @ 3:21am
Malamasala May 27, 2018 @ 3:32am 
I usually I have 50% chance of getting banned or my post deleted every time I go to a Sekai Project title and post that I do not agree with their "pay 10 dollars on Steam, then buy the DLC content for 10 dollars in our own store!". (Which I think is even against STEAM terms of service, as they don't want to be cut out of sales).

But hey, 50% of the time I'm treated like a human being, so that publisher is awesome!
Last edited by Malamasala; May 27, 2018 @ 3:33am
Radene May 27, 2018 @ 3:45am 
Yes. And indeed, most people won't want to listen to you. The good part is, they can't silence you, just force you to relocate.
They can seemingly ban you for pretty much anything.
And unless there's a very obvious abuse of power where a dev just hates you for no legitimate reason and clearly does it out of spite and makes fun of you after the ban or something then I doubt that Steam would do anything about it.
I am guessing at least that they just assume that the dev is in the right per default unless there's an astranomic amount of evidence pointing to the opposite.

I've been banned before for '' flaming '' even tho I wasn't and I made a pretty polite comment really about my disapproval and then everyone else were having a massive argument but I was the only one who got banned even tho I did nothing wrong <.<.
I think that I might've just been randomly sacrificed on the altar by the devs to scare the others or something, I really have no clue.
And it was a long time ago but I don't behave badly towards people on the internet like a lot of people do.
But I doubt that Steam would really care in the end of the day.
And they probably get like a billion of different ban appeals a day.
Last edited by ⎛⎝ Kupo ⎠⎞; May 27, 2018 @ 4:43am
scambammer May 27, 2018 @ 4:58am 
Originally posted by BossGalaga:
Originally posted by Thylacine Studios (developer) Posted: May 27 @ 12:02pm:
I'll let these screenshots speak for themselves:

https://i.gyazo.com/3bb60364f46411bfcc396cbe7d2575f3.png

https://i.gyazo.com/a99e6e89a9cfd9e9e9c97b7b73564e55.png

After this, he opened another topic:

https://i.gyazo.com/de1aa23d03d38c005269a788561e6864.png

And then even more harassment via e-mail...

https://i.gyazo.com/b0490e47f82d56b139ddea671ef23f5f.png

In your email, you also threaten the dev to remove your ban or that you'll leave your bad review so it seems obvious that your review is bs.
no man, you read it wrong. In the email I said I would remove my negative review if he lifted his insane permanent ban and changed it tto a temporary one like a sane person would expect
Last edited by scambammer; May 27, 2018 @ 5:00am
scambammer May 27, 2018 @ 5:05am 
Originally posted by FFL2and3rocks:
Originally posted by scambammer:
a private email I sent to be polite

Polite?

Originally posted by the email:
What in the world is wrong with you?

Originally posted by the email:
How on Earth can you be so ridiculously sensitive?

But to answer your question, yes, they are allowed to ban you for your tone.

Hostility doesn't require insults. If he doesn't want you in his forum anymore because he doesn't like your holier-than-thou attitude, then that's his choice.

actually man, 'send an email about your problem rather than raging on the forum' is a common response. It is polite because it keeps arguments out of the public eye. He put it right back in the public eye though, so good on him for making himself look bad.

"What in the world is wrong with you?' is a fair question from someone who just got perma banned for very litle reason. A temp ban prpobably i wouldnt have even cared. But you buy games also to interact with the game's community

"How on earth can you be so ridiculously sensitive?" - indeed, simple question. How?


Holier than thou? Actually the person willy nilly swinging ban hammers at fans of his game for very very little reason are the holier than thou ones.

Your response makes me believe you are either a fan or one of the devs of this game. Sorry


if this was the most offensive thing you can pull from my posts/emails then I feel like I made my point publically
Last edited by scambammer; May 27, 2018 @ 5:07am
BossGalaga May 27, 2018 @ 5:13am 
Originally posted by scambammer:
Originally posted by BossGalaga:

In your email, you also threaten the dev to remove your ban or that you'll leave your bad review so it seems obvious that your review is bs.

no man, you read it wrong. In the email I said I would remove my negative review if he lifted his insane permanent ban and changed it tto a temporary one like a sane person would expect

You're trying to use your negative review as leverage. That sounds like a very thinly veiled threat.

Also, if you're willing to remove the review then it sounds like you don't have a lot of conviction in what you wrote.
scambammer May 27, 2018 @ 5:20am 
Originally posted by BossGalaga:
Originally posted by scambammer:

no man, you read it wrong. In the email I said I would remove my negative review if he lifted his insane permanent ban and changed it tto a temporary one like a sane person would expect

You're trying to use your negative review as leverage. That sounds like a very thinly veiled threat.

Also, if you're willing to remove the review then it sounds like you don't have a lot of conviction in what you wrote.

The review itself says I like the game. So does all the rest of the emails, forum posts. The review was made not as a threat but as a warning to people. It's a this game is ok but this dev isnt ok and is doing some sketchy things to me here. Namely cesoring negativity on his title, abusing his admin power and possibly sending his dev team to my review to bomb it with 'funny ratings' and make me look like a madman.

Reviews are warnings to a consumer. Mine is a 'use at your own risk as this dev may ban you PERMANENTLY for very little/no reason, leaving you unable to fully enjoy the community aspects such as forum banter.'

The review is filled with fact and drama, true. He caused this drama himself with his knee jerk, hypersensitive move.

It is also a very mature thing to do to offer a solution to the situation at hand, mine being 'if you want me to remove the ugly truth from this public wall that you needlessly forced my hand into writing with your brash actions, then you will turn this ugly and unwarranted ban into a temporary ban so that I can fully enjoy this product I bought'
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