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valve please stop the chase over visual novels and oriental games
https://twitter.com/HuniePotDev/status/997257011384340482

https://twitter.com/HuniePotDev/status/997258547397148675

why do not they do all this chase over games like gta V and the witcher III? just because they are western games and moreover AAA?
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Цитата допису Space Eagle 🦅:
So having basically any adult manga warrants a jail in the US? That’s hilarious!
No, just any manga that the judge decides to depict "child porn."

Which is basically a code for "anybody I think is too young."

Цитата допису Space Eagle 🦅:
Children does not exist in drawings, sorry.
The US values "moral protection" from imaginary drawings more than literal livelihood of its citizens. Movie at 11.

Sad, but this goes way beyond just things like "child porn." We haven't been concerned with individual lives for a long time now.
Цитата допису Sheepify:
Цитата допису Space Eagle 🦅:
So having basically any adult manga warrants a jail in the US? That’s hilarious!
No, just any manga that the judge decides to depict "child porn."

Which is basically a code for "anybody I think is too young."

Цитата допису Space Eagle 🦅:
Children does not exist in drawings, sorry.
The US values "moral protection" from imaginary drawings more than literal livelihood of its citizens. Movie at 11.

Sad, but this goes way beyond just things like "child porn." We haven't been concerned with individual lives for a long time now.

Pretty much and thats the fkin problem everyone gets offended over these small lil things but they ignore the actual child trafficking happening around the world.
Stupidity is what it is. Anime =/= child porn. Then again, they elected trump so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
Цитата допису Zero:
Stupidity is what it is. Anime =/= child porn. Then again, they elected trump so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Don't bring politics into this trump does alot of stupid stuff but this is not the place to discuss that dont want this thread locked again.
Цитата допису Sheepify:
Цитата допису Space Eagle 🦅:
So having basically any adult manga warrants a jail in the US? That’s hilarious!
No, just any manga that the judge decides to depict "child porn."

Which is basically a code for "anybody I think is too young."

Цитата допису Space Eagle 🦅:
Children does not exist in drawings, sorry.
The US values "moral protection" from imaginary drawings more than literal livelihood of its citizens. Movie at 11.

Sad, but this goes way beyond just things like "child porn." We haven't been concerned with individual lives for a long time now.
All this topic amuses me. You know, i think soon we will have to start encrypting our disks (bitlocker/filevault or similar) cuz anything related to anime could make you go to jail. It seems exaggerating today, but i wonder if more and more cases like this starts to happen more frequently. We are on a digital era where your information is easily leaked to intelligence bureaus, then passed on to gov. This is getting scarier and scarier.

While we are at it, better to get a vpn together with disk encrypted.
A swiss vpn... better strike while the iron is hot. XD
Цитата допису luckyshot5135:
Don't bring politics into this trump does alot of stupid stuff but this is not the place to discuss that dont want this thread locked again.
Politics or not, it brings one fact to the table. US is stupid. People in general are stupid so it's very relevant. Regardless of whatever something objectively is, you always have idiots complaining and claiming that it defies morality and it should be banned and/or worth being punished for it.

Humanity. Is. Stupid. The rest of us are suffering their stupidity. Such is the fact I'm on about...
Цитата допису Space Eagle 🦅:
All this topic amuses me.
Personally, it depresses the living ♥♥♥♥ out of me.

Цитата допису Space Eagle 🦅:
You know, i think soon we will have to start encrypting our disks (bitlocker/filevault or similar) cuz anything related to anime could make you go to jail.
"Soon?" The laws (at least if you live within the glorious US) are already there.

The point is that in the US laws are something that are a convenience to have around without immediate enforcement. But piss off the wrong person (especially if they wear that "civil servant" uniform), and suddenly the least logical law gets thrown at you.

The US prosecution tactics has long been "throwing the whole book at 'em." Even if most of the charges get struck, that tactic alone will sway any theoretical jury in favor of sentencing for something.

"Look at that evil criminal, broke so many laws!"

Цитата допису Space Eagle 🦅:
A swiss vpn... better strike while the iron is hot. XD
You're a couple of years behind, mate. The Swiss have long surrendered digital neutrality to our TLAs.
Цитата допису Zero:
Politics or not, it brings one fact to the table. US is stupid easily manipulated.
Without going in a wall of text explanation...

The result of our "we're the greatest!" indoctrination coupled with abject surrender to any figure of authority (look at our "education" system - kids have been literally suspended just for arguing with teachers when the latter gives false information!). On top of survivor bias supporting such ridiculous social themes as "you only need to work hard to make it," and outright anti-intellectualism promoted by one of the two only real parties.

Basically US social structure have long purposefully been set on producing unquestioning "Morlocs"[en.wikipedia.org] that get billions of dollars thrown at them in propaganda and mental conditioning to ensure the "right" election results.

Anybody who tries to use logic and factual discourse gets drowned out in the noise.

Also, thanks Obama Putin!

A huge majority of population is more concerned about making it to the end of the month without going in debt than finding time to follow news, much less to have informed opinion on so many various specialist subjects. High economic inequality is directly tied to ininformed voters, and we've been pushing records in that respect (USA! USA! USA! Numbah 1!)

Meh. /derail
Автор останньої редакції: 76561188078797539; 3 черв. 2018 о 12:48
True story: The Framers wrote the First Amendment which protects freedom of expression (including video games). Though true that Valve is not the government, and therefore does not need to exactly follow the First Amendment, the question to ask, however, is this: Does Valve want to be seen by adults as less open and less free to the marketplace of ideas than the government? Does Valve want to be seen as rulers of the gulag with modern day book burning aka just wholesale slaughter of adult games?
Автор останньої редакції: MADanger; 3 черв. 2018 о 12:51
Censorship is, quite frankly, what I would expect in "paradises" such as North Korea, England, China, Iran, and Saudia Arabia.

Pretty scary that Valve adopts the same censorship ideas as those slimy governments mentioned above.
Цитата допису marijn211:
Цитата допису Zero:
Or let's be smart and censor nothing. Everyone will be happy, complainers can stfu and go away.
Valve will be doing illegal stuff and will have to pay thousands of dollars, euros, pesos, yen etc etc in fines

Then valve just pulls out of those junky countries with crappy laws. This will force the millions of sheep in those countries to start demanding their politicians to BACK OFF THEIR ENTERTAINMENT.
Oh no, hide that skin! My eyes will die! Meanwhile, me: Mmm, sexy. Better if cool/nice looking. I've seen many ridiculous censors of characters who were in small robe and bam, full body robe.
Цитата допису Mad Ass Danger:
Censorship is, quite frankly, what I would expect in "paradises" such as North Korea, England, China, Iran, and Saudia Arabia.

Pretty scary that Valve adopts the same censorship ideas as those slimy governments mentioned above.

Even in dictatorships, censorship first and foremost targets anti-goverment movements and shuts down criticism. They have enemies of the state to hunt, no time to waste on erotic drawings, unless they are anti-goverment.
Hey - England really isn't too bad on the old censorship!

It is a thorny issue but Vales response of bury head, ignore it and carry on raelly isn't cutting it IMHO
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Цитата допису Malamasala:
Been ages since I investigated those things, but in every case I remember that happened in the US, it also involved having real CP.
Not the one I linked.

Then you probably linked the case where the police black mailed the person into admitting guilt. I remember that one as the police didn't let him have any lawyer or anything and told him to either admit guilt now and only get put on a life long list as a child abuser, or go to court and get 25 years in jail because cartoons are super illegal.

Most would fall under that pressure, especially when denied lawyers to help them out. Which is the whole plan by the police when they want to cuff creeps.

He'd have gotten out not guilty if he had bothered to fight. But not everyone has the mental power to deal with these porn haters who are usually hyper aggressive.
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