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I have SEVERAL games on my wishlist that are not even out yet or are still in EA. You do know that the average development time (even for AAA titles) are 5-7 years? Some EA games have been in EA since EA was implemented all those years ago. So in that much time you can amass a lot of games on a wishlist.
Plus as many like to say when someone complains about EA games.........."wait til they are at a point you like or are comfortable with, or don't buy it til it's out of EA. So if I just start buying up games on my list I am going against what you are always preaching about and impulse buying or getting burned on a game that will never be finished.
I also like to snag games on sale. I like to filter out games on sale on my list making it easier to find instead of getting lucky or spending all day going through games on sale through the store page.
Regardless of how many I have on my wishlist or my reasons for having them. The fact still remains that I am being shown games with tags I have blocked because it has tags attached from games I do like.
If I am not supposed to check my que once a day, then why have a daily que?
Ease off the DIscovery Queue.
Yeah the thing is the thing is you are operating in a very narrow preference range. The daily use thing is more for people who have a wider gamut in their likes.
It seems to me you've run so many sutff under the 'not interested' hood that the algorythm is just throwing things at the wall to see what sticks.
Let's have a look at my discovery queue right now:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/460950
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1055090
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1051310
https://store.steampowered.com/app/716640
https://store.steampowered.com/app/488730
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1018000
https://store.steampowered.com/app/774241
https://store.steampowered.com/app/544810
https://store.steampowered.com/app/774511
https://store.steampowered.com/app/819020
https://store.steampowered.com/app/964470/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/919640
Of all the list I only tagged a game to follow in the future
(For reference, note that I have not filtered out neither Early Access nor Adult games. And the only tags I have on my exclude list are 'Massively multiplayer' and 'MOBA' and only 53 excluded titles)
So... If the algorythm is the same for all here and so are the games being sold. How come we get to such different results? May it be the data we both feed the system with are vastly different?
3 genres out of how many?? You can not tell me that Steam has so many of those types of games that they are overwriting a block function because the store has so much more than just those types.
I like a wide variety of games. depends on my mood at that time. One time I might be on a Skyrim trip, then some time later I might be on a Stardew valley trip. So a narrow scope from eliminating 3 genres is not that a drastic of an effect.
I have all types of games form strategy to RPG's, to card games and all things in between. I do not see how blocking 3 genre types is so narrowing that the que scrapes the bottom to show me games I have blocked....but whatever.
The point still remains that I am being shown games with tags that I have blocked.......therefore that function is either broken or useless, which is the point of this thread.
I am sorry but I do not believe that by looking at the que once a day will run me out of things to see. How many games are on steam? How many new games come out on steam everyday? I can almost guarantee that there is more than 12 games a day being released (including the coming soon ones) and that is the size of my que if I recall correctly. So if 100 games are being introduced daily and even if 30 of those are on my blocked list, that still 70 games to see and I only see 12 in my que a day......do the math.
As I said, I have no problem just clicking next and moving on. I am not complaining about the quality of games or not even upset by seeing games I am supposed to have blocked. I am just stating that when you block a tag for a game you have no interest in even looking at, those type of game still show up making the block function useless or broken just because it has the same tag as a game I do like.
If you block the tag VN or visual novel, then the system should remove that tag from it's algorithm regardless of any other tag it has attached to it.
But the way it seems to be working is that the algorithm ignores the block because it has other tags that I do like attached to them.
Either the system has a hiccup or the system is broken. I do not care if I only play actions games, a game that has a VN tag AND an action tag should NEVER show up in my que because I set VN to be blocked from my que.
It's like if I wrote a program that removed the letter E from everything I scan with the program, I should not be seeing 1 single letter E at all. Yet I showed one of the many games that show up in my que with the very tag that I have blocked.
Considering that any user can apply a tag to a game, does that really sound wise to you?
Good point, however, what is the point of even having a block tag function then? Good idea or not, the very fact remains that we are seeing blocked games we should not be seeing in our ques.
Something is broken and needs to either be removed or fixed. The mislabeled tag thing is a problem in itself.....lol
Or you just need to change the way YOU use the system. It works for other people.
I mean it is a simple point. I block a tag from showing up in my que. I still see a game with that tag in my que.
How is this my fault??? If I use a ignore function in a game because someone is being rude, obnoxious or whatever. I click the ignore button and POOF, I no longer see the person saying anything anymore in that game.
I use the box to block certain tags from being shown on my que, yet I am still seeing those games show up.
If you would have read my other posts, you would see I am doing what I am supposed to do yet it is not working.
But whatever. I guess I am the only one seeing games with tags show up in que even though I have them blocked. Could not possibly be that there is a problem with the system.......nope just like everything Steam.....players fault no matter what.
Have a nice weekend, I tried to make a point but people refuse to listen so no use wasting my time anymore.............Peace out!!!!
And has been said, your religious commitment to the queue and the way it functions has created a scenario where you're pretty much forcing it to make ever more tenuous connections to show you something. WOuld you rather ghave the que ue say "There's nothing for you."?
They say madness is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result each time. You are getting unsatisfactory results from the queue... yet you continue to use the queue in the same way The moment you started noticing that it wasn't showing you stuff worth seeing you should have actually either stopped using the queue or changed the way you use it.
Which seems to be the one thing you don't want to do. The fact that you usse the word 'fault' says where this resistance is coming from.
And if you'd read other people's posts you'd notice one thing that they'keep telling you is to stop using the queue for a bit and maybe try another method of discovery... like curators. The queue is more meant for people with large fields of preference or who are actively looking to expand their preferences and comfort zones.
It's less effective for people who want to stay entrenched in their comfort zones.
You've told it not to show you stuff, and you insist on making it show you stuff. Again woudl you rather if the discovery queue just popped up a message saying 'Nothing here for you'?
Yeah. thats for the best since the one thing you are unprepared to do is to actually change. The system works for other people and not you. Those who find it works have given you what advice they can and you've rejected it all.
The algorhythm your criticize shows a greater capacity to learn and adapt and change than you do. Irony eh?
That's the thing about tags, games are tagged with multiple tags and blocking certain of them in high numbers starts creating collateral damages.
For example.
But then someone else replays the content of the person you've blocked and bang! you're again seeing content you had blocked.
Blocking content is far more difficult than what it seems. If blocking a tag meant that you'd never ever were to see again a game with that tag you're bound to not see a game you might be interested in. Because a single tag isn't the sole definition of a game.
That's why the excluded function says it'll exclude games that are higly tagged with your tags of choices. It's not a binary setting.
Otherwise it'd only take for a few trolls to start wrongly tagging games to make them dissapear from your view.
Visual Novel
VR
Anime
This is what is set when I customize my que.
I have 53 not interested titles and only 6534 games looked at in my que.
I love how I have little over 6K games looked at and and hit "next" in que., yet there 300k games on steam as per.................
https://www.gamerevolution.com/guides/482431-how-many-games-are-on-steam-2019
So do the math. 6k games looked at since my time with steam. 53 games not interested I have 170 games in library and 238 on wishlist.. So I still have close to 23k worth of games I have not come across my que.
Yep, I have run out of games to see in my que. They are scraping the bottom of the barrel to find me something huh?
Again, the block tag is either broken or useless or you have to be a rocket scientist to figure out why it shows me tags I have blocked.
Why bother having the function of tag block then?? Seems that putting in a tag to exclude just is not enough.
You have fun with it and do your rocket science and blame the player all you like. When a tag I block still shows, to me there is something wrong, but whatever.......Peace.
Now lets hope the unsubscribe button works this time or do I need a degree to push the unsub button like I do for the tag block one??