What actions have you taken due to the Library UI change?

[FluffyPinkDecoyBunny]

I've read a lot of angry posts on the subject of this change and lots of folks demanding things to be changed back. I'd personally like it changed back or at the very minimum, get the new UI to work without running like crap. Right now the new Library UI runs slow, doesn't load most of the time, causes Steam to crash and eats up to 4x or more RAM than it used to, even if you have Steam minimized.


So, I'm just curious: What have you done in regards to the Library UI change?

* I've reverted back to an older version - things run smooth again. No crashes and nothing from Steam hogging resources.
* I've cleared out my nearly 70 game wishlist.
* I won't stop using Steam due to the fact I have a good amount of games on it, but I won't support them anymore by spending money with them. I found a good chunk of the games on my wishlist are also on GoG and I'll just shift what company I spend my money on.

[Muppet among Puppets]

Nguyên văn bởi Ogami:

Nguyên văn bởi Muppet among Puppets:

Another day in the new library.

One row of ads,
oh, what is this?
Another row of ads! Try something new....... you dont have it, but your friends!

The new library is so good.

It is worth the additional resources, worth the bloat, worth to buy ram for it. Who cares about the tiny list of the games you already have. Important is the BIG WINDOW to show you things you do not have. Daily.
Lets buy!

Honest question, how do you even see those ads?
The default look for my library is this:
https://prnt.sc/q5sz8a

With the game categories at the left, installed games at the right.
Thats also where Steam starts each day.
I did not see this "Whats new" shelf and the ads once since release day.

Its when you do not look at images or categories.

[[SK] Kaldaien]

Nguyên văn bởi Ogami:

Nguyên văn bởi Muppet among Puppets:

Another day in the new library.

One row of ads,
oh, what is this?
Another row of ads! Try something new....... you dont have it, but your friends!

The new library is so good.

It is worth the additional resources, worth the bloat, worth to buy ram for it. Who cares about the tiny list of the games you already have. Important is the BIG WINDOW to show you things you do not have. Daily.
Lets buy!

Honest question, how do you even see those ads?
The default look for my library is this:
https://prnt.sc/q5sz8a

With the game categories at the left, installed games at the right.
Thats also where Steam starts each day.
I did not see this "Whats new" shelf and the ads once since release day.

Well, stop screenshotting specific shelves for one thing :P Click the Home button. The internal name for "What's New" is Library Home Events

My What's New is empty even when linked to my 5,000 game family share library. I don't know why people are so lazy they cannot just dismiss the things? I've had a grand total of 3 new things show up there in the past week.

[Ogami]

Nguyên văn bởi Muppet among Puppets:

Its when you do not look at images or categories.

OK but... then just leave it on a category? I have to concisely click on the HOME button to see the "Whats New" banner.
Why would i do that if i never need it?
I am not trying to be snarky or dismissing or anything.
If the HOME screen has the ads just dont use the HOME screen?
I never used it since this new Ui came out, there is nothing there i would need.

Nguyên văn bởi SK Kaldaien:

Well, stop screenshotting specific shelves for one thing :P Click the Home button. The internal name for "What's New" is Library Home Events

Yeah but THAT IS the default look and how i use my library. With a category selected.
Steam starts this way and i end it each day like this. I dont need the HOME screen for anything.
Why would i select it?

[Muppet among Puppets]

Nguyên văn bởi Erebus:

Nguyên văn bởi Muppet among Puppets:

My favorite ad was....... "an update to our game and here is something you can buy".
Trying to be a "whats new", but could not resist to use it as an ad bar.

Lets wait for the winter sale...... When every developer has something to post in the "whats new".
We do not need another clicker game from steam, the library will be that clicker game.

I question what kind of developers and publishers you guys are supporting if you're actually getting bombed with straight up adverts.

That must be it. I got an ad from a developer, valve or so was the name, advertising their new csgo pass. Its just 13,99...... Did you know that?

[Ogami]

Ah i see, you can put up custom "shelves" on the home screen.
Lol, i did not even know that because i dont need the screen. I just prefer to click my categories on the left.
I can actually understand now why people find the "Whats New" and ads annoying if you cant remove them from that page and you want to actively use it.

They should make that first forced shelf optional, i agree.

[anon_amos]

What actions have I taken?

Let's see, desktop shortcuts to launch my games, have Steam load the news page at startup as they haven't bloated up that page...yet. And more importantly didn't spend anything on the recent sale. It was actually the first time in a long time that I didn't spend any money here. I spent it elsewhere instead.

Will skip the Winter sale too unless they give an option for a simple list view for the library like it previously had.

[Quint the Alligator Snapper]

Nguyên văn bởi Erebus:

Also this: https://playnite.link/screen1.jpg

Looks obnoxious as hell and like it would waste tons and tons of space at 4K.

TBH that looks okay, aesthetically, but so does the new Steam Library.

My bigger objection would be that it wastes so much space showing me art while I could just collapse all the art, make stuff load faster, and get a ton more useful information on screen at once.

Nguyên văn bởi Ogami:

Nguyên văn bởi Muppet among Puppets:

Another day in the new library.

One row of ads,
oh, what is this?
Another row of ads! Try something new....... you dont have it, but your friends!

The new library is so good.

It is worth the additional resources, worth the bloat, worth to buy ram for it. Who cares about the tiny list of the games you already have. Important is the BIG WINDOW to show you things you do not have. Daily.
Lets buy!

Honest question, how do you even see those ads?
The default look for my library is this:
https://prnt.sc/q5sz8a

With the game categories at the left, installed games at the right.
I never use anything else. Thats also where Steam starts each day.
I did not see this "Whats new" shelf and the ads once since release day.

Maybe thats why those complains kind of confuse me, do you all prefer a different default view of your stuff?

Click "Home" and you'll see it at the top of the Library's main frame. Unless you've specifically disabled it through a workaround such as these.

EDIT: This was responded to already.

Nguyên văn bởi SK Kaldaien:

My What's New is empty even when linked to my 5,000 game family share library. I don't know why people are so lazy they cannot just dismiss the things? I've had a grand total of 3 new things show up there in the past week.

Because I might actually want to read some of them later? Just not with them screaming in my face.

[Erebus]

Nguyên văn bởi Quint the Alligator Snapper:

Nguyên văn bởi Erebus:

Also this: https://playnite.link/screen1.jpg

Looks obnoxious as hell and like it would waste tons and tons of space at 4K.

TBH that looks okay, aesthetically, but so does the new Steam Library.

My bigger objection would be that it wastes so much space showing me art while I could just collapse all the art, make stuff load faster, and get a ton more useful information on screen at once.

It takes up more space with art than the Steam library, provides a huge description that isn't needed, and it looks like most stuff is hidden behind the "more".

But I also use most the links in the current library quite often as well as the "view installation folder" button (which is lovely no longer being buried in properties)... because I have many different SSDs/HDDs and do stuff with the game files quite often... It's rather annoying going through properties menus and or manually getting to the folder every single time.

[muffins]

Nguyên văn bởi Erebus:

Yes seeing updates and announcements for the stuff I own is indeed horrible.

It won't stay that way. You won't be forced to just view Ads from every game you own. You will be viewing Ads from every company that pays Valve for Ad space. Cars, insurance, clothes, pharmaceuticals, whatever.

Nguyên văn bởi Erebus:

Also this: https://playnite.link/screen1.jpg

Looks obnoxious as hell and like it would waste tons and tons of space at 4K.

Playnite has ALL the views that the old Steam Library UI had. List, Grid and Detail. Plus you can customise all the views to your own preferences. You can even resize the window any way you like, unlike Steam which prevents you from hiding The Grey Box that contains the All Important Ad Banner.

Are you on their programming team or something? You're obsessing over criticism of Valves Ad-Enabled Steam Library far more than any normal person, or even fan, would. Someone who merely liked Steams new Ad-Enabled Steam Library wouldn't be expending hours of his time every day defending this "Burning Garbage Truck Plummeting Off A Burning Cliff Of Garbage And Into A Burning Pile Of Garbage Below" update. No. They'd be getting on with their lives.

You on the other hand are motivated.

[[SK] Kaldaien]

Nguyên văn bởi Ogami:

Nguyên văn bởi SK Kaldaien:

Well, stop screenshotting specific shelves for one thing :P Click the Home button. The internal name for "What's New" is Library Home Events

Yeah but THAT IS the default look and how i use my library. With a category selected.
Steam starts this way and i end it each day like this. I dont need the HOME screen for anything.
Why would i select it?

Why? So you don't look silly when you say you cannot find What's New :P

You're free to use the software any way you want, but if you're going to take a screenshot of something unrelated and then ask why What's New is not there, the answer's going to come back to you're not in the right part of the software -- matters not whether you care to use this part of the software, you still need to look there to find the subject of discussion.

[Quint the Alligator Snapper]

Nguyên văn bởi Erebus:

But I also use most the links in the current library quite often as well as the "view installation folder" button (which is lovely no longer being buried in properties)... because I have many different SSDs/HDDs and do stuff with the game files quite often... It's rather annoying going through properties menus and or manually getting to the folder every single time.

This gives me an idea:

A new List View should separate install drive and disk usage into two columns. brb, suggesting it

Nguyên văn bởi muffins:

Nguyên văn bởi Erebus:

Yes seeing updates and announcements for the stuff I own is indeed horrible.

It won't stay that way. You won't be forced to just view Ads from every game you own. You will be viewing Ads from every company that pays Valve for Ad space. Cars, insurance, clothes, pharmaceuticals, whatever.

I consider the What's New to be unwanted ad space, but I don't see a plausible reason for going down this slippery slope either.

[Crazy Tiger]

Nguyên văn bởi Ogami:

Nguyên văn bởi Muppet among Puppets:

Another day in the new library.

One row of ads,
oh, what is this?
Another row of ads! Try something new....... you dont have it, but your friends!

The new library is so good.

It is worth the additional resources, worth the bloat, worth to buy ram for it. Who cares about the tiny list of the games you already have. Important is the BIG WINDOW to show you things you do not have. Daily.
Lets buy!

Honest question, how do you even see those ads?
The default look for my library is this:
https://prnt.sc/q5sz8a

With the game categories at the left, installed games at the right.
I never use anything else. Thats also where Steam starts each day.
I did not see this "Whats new" shelf and the ads once since release day.

Maybe thats why those complains kind of confuse me, do you all prefer a different default view of your stuff?

How do you get Steam to start on that? My Steam always starts on the Home screen in the library, not on the category or game I last had selected. And by "starts" I mean after I log in, I always fully close my Steam when I'm done (which is nothing to do with the new UI, did that as well with the old UI).

And what games are in your Card/Board games category? Chances are I own most if not all of them, but always on the lookout for new ones.

[[SK] Kaldaien]

Nguyên văn bởi Erebus:

Also this: https://playnite.link/screen1.jpg

Looks obnoxious as hell and like it would waste tons and tons of space at 4K.

Agreed. Not only that, but there's a column of completely static information on the left of the screen because whoever designed that UI thought (I guess?) things looked empty without it? That's a whole bunch of information you never need to look at, and it's been raised to the status of most important details to flood the screen with.

If this were a physical library of games, all that nonsense would be either on the side of the box or in a corner on the back because that's where it belongs, hidden away where you don't have to look at it.

If this were a better thought out UI, that info would be tucked away somewhere that requires an additional click to see, and in its place dynamic details about your game such as achievements earned, what your friends are doing in the game, news. etc.

Having all those static details wasting screen realestate really is clutter. It's neatly aligned clutter, but it's still clutter. If you can't see more interesting things on your screen because all that clutter is taking up so much space, we have a problem :P

[Zukabazuka]

Nguyên văn bởi muffins:

Nguyên văn bởi Erebus:

Yes seeing updates and announcements for the stuff I own is indeed horrible.

It won't stay that way. You won't be forced to just view Ads from every game you own. You will be viewing Ads from every company that pays Valve for Ad space. Cars, insurance, clothes, pharmaceuticals, whatever.

Yes because that's what see on the steam store page right? Ads for cars, insurance, clothes from other companies and any other stuff you bring up. But no, Steam store only shows ads for games and their products. NOTHING ELSE. So this "whats new" Will only show message from developers only.

[Erebus]

Nguyên văn bởi muffins:

It won't stay that way. You won't be forced to just view Ads from every game you own. You will be viewing Ads from every company that pays Valve for Ad space. Cars, insurance, clothes, pharmaceuticals, whatever.

That's some special level slippery slope conspiracy theory stuff there. In all truth there is LESS shilling in the library now because PCgamer, RPS, Eurogamer, and all those other rags aren't wasting space on every game page.

PCgamers 10 most blah blah blah on every game just by virtue of mentioning the title. Fortnite BS showing up on game news on my client. That was advertising and shilling being abused.

And you know what if current stuff is bothering you or something does cross the line beyond being game related.... send a ticket to Valve, report it, something.

Are you on their programming team or something? You're obsessing over criticism of Valves Ad-Enabled Steam Library far more than any normal person, or even fan, would.

"Are you Alex Jones or something? You're coming up with all kinds of slippery slopes and conspiracies over an announcement bar far more than a normal person would."

Love the veiled shill accusations all the time truly. Sorry I have a different opinion than you, hombre.

Someone who merely liked Steams new Ad-Enabled Steam Library wouldn't be expending hours of his time every day defending this "Burning Garbage Truck Plummeting Off A Burning Cliff Of Garbage And Into A Burning Pile Of Garbage Below" update. No. They'd be getting on with their lives.

Somebody who merely wasn't a fan of the change wouldn't run around the forums accusing people of being shills and acting like armageddon is occurring.

I have free-time, posting on the forums doesn't take that long, and I'm already on the thread. Sue me for commenting.

You on the other hand are motivated.

Partially yeah, I'd hate for the feedback to be solely populated by.... people such as yourself. When some of us like the changes, have good performance, like the update info bar (though more options are def needed).