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McCore May 28, 2019 @ 3:58pm
Steam on Windows XP Emulator
I enjoy some classic games like Shogun and Medieval Total War on Steam, games that really don't work well on Windows 10 so I used to run them through a Windows XP emulator (Vitualbox). Surprise surprise Steam no longer supports Windows XP. While I understand the reason it makes it increasingly difficult to play classic games which are not meant to run on newer operating systems.

Solution to this?

I can't agree with a decision which limits us playing games we own and it's increasingly difficult to find workarounds outside emulators for playing these games as they were meant to be played. Shogun Total War plays without sound and I'm lucky to get 10 years into Medieval Total War before it crashes.

As operating systems get newer this is a problem that needs to be addressed. Abandoning players of classic games seems an ill advised idea.
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Longhaul May 28, 2019 @ 3:59pm 
XP?

Time to upgrade.
8ullfrog May 28, 2019 @ 4:02pm 
It's like you didn't read the post at all Daynox.
Longhaul May 28, 2019 @ 4:06pm 
Originally posted by 8ullfrog:
It's like you didn't read the post at all Daynox.
No.. i read it..
Should have elaborated to just look for more recent or up to date emulator... pretty sure one is out there.
Wolf Knight May 28, 2019 @ 4:08pm 
Originally posted by McCore:
Abandoning players of classic games seems an ill advised idea.

steam didnt abandon you, you decided to stop walking forward.

maintaining a game to keep it working with newer operating systems is the game developer/publisher/IP holders responsibility. if you need help running a game, try asking for help in that games forum (either on steam or off steam).


Darren May 28, 2019 @ 4:11pm 
Try running them directly from the exe files rather then clicking on launch in Steam apparently this resolves the issue for most people with Medieval TOTAL War on Steam.
Longhaul May 28, 2019 @ 4:18pm 
It will just keep happening as newer and newer window's versions come out in the future as well. That's probably one of the reasons i still have towers and laptops with win2000, winxp, winvista, win7 and win8. Seeing as i still have every pc game i have ever bought on disc (when you could still buy on disc..)
Satoru May 28, 2019 @ 4:20pm 
Medival Total War works fine on Win 10

https://steamcommunity.com/app/345260/discussions/0/1692659135920628303/

Shogun works fine on win 10

https://steamcommunity.com/app/345240/discussions/0/2533741983664124077/

Solution? Stop running outdated OS
8ullfrog May 28, 2019 @ 4:24pm 
Also works fine on 7 if he wants to play it in an emulator for whatever reason for a little while longer.
The advantage that a classic focused retailer like GOG offers is that they deliver installation files DRM free. So you cam technicly do all sorts of workaround using either classic hardware or virtual machines without having to worry about 3rd party DRM's like STEAM. Can imagine that it might be quite a hassle to get the new STEAM client run in old hardware and OS combinations that they decidedly dropped.

The DRM part is up to the IP holders tho and most often these don't care about their back catalogue.
8ullfrog May 28, 2019 @ 5:02pm 
They also don't have Total War II, so that doesn't help op.
McCore May 28, 2019 @ 5:16pm 
Guys, I am aware that there are workarounds. That's not the point. The point is that creating workarounds shouldn't be necessary. Steam abandoning XP is not an ideal situation and cases like this will get worse and worse for classic game players as operating systems continue to advance.

Sorry I wasn't clear.
Start_Running May 28, 2019 @ 5:26pm 
Originally posted by McCore:
Guys, I am aware that there are workarounds. That's not the point. The point is that creating workarounds shouldn't be necessary.
You're new to PC gaming aren't you?
Using workarounds, tweaks, and voodoo are basically to PC gaming what sleepless nights are to parents with a new baby.

Steam abandoning XP is not an ideal situation and cases like this will get worse and worse for classic game players as operating systems continue to advance.
As a classic game player I can happily say you're talking from the wrong set of cheeks. I have had zero trouble getting any of my classic games to run in windows 7. Even Zeliard runs smoothly.

If the idea of having to tweak a little to get your 'classics' to work scares you, then you weren't around when those classics were new games. Clearly. Might I suggest an XBox One.
Originally posted by McCore:
Guys, I am aware that there are workarounds. That's not the point. The point is that creating workarounds shouldn't be necessary. Steam abandoning XP is not an ideal situation and cases like this will get worse and worse for classic game players as operating systems continue to advance.

Sorry I wasn't clear.
So you mean they could/ should introduce some sort of a steam legacy client?
dcrockerjr May 28, 2019 @ 5:51pm 
the weird thing is i have win7 and the client used to run natively, but one of the client updates rolled out maybe a year ago made it to where i can only get the client up and running in compatibility mode for xpsp2 which is how i am running the client right now
Start_Running May 28, 2019 @ 6:11pm 
Originally posted by dcrockerjr:
the weird thing is i have win7 and the client used to run natively, but one of the client updates rolled out maybe a year ago made it to where i can only get the client up and running in compatibility mode for xpsp2 which is how i am running the client right now
That... is odd since I've been running it windows 7 native for almost a year now.
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