NaisuGemu 2019년 8월 5일 오후 6시 28분
Game "Furry girl" deleted?
why?
첫 게시자: Ogami:
Because the developer broke the Steam TOS, that simple.
Games only get removed by Steam for that reason.

Most likely he used stolen artwork he did not have the copyright for and the real artist issued a DMCA with Steam.
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Kelthorian 2019년 8월 6일 오전 2시 02분 
Ogami님이 먼저 게시:
Because the developer broke the Steam TOS, that simple.
Games only get removed by Steam for that reason.

Most likely he used stolen artwork he did not have the copyright for and the real artist issued a DMCA with Steam.


Don't defend Valve by using lies. Valve don't need you to break the TOS for your game to be banned or never allowed entry in the first place.

"Rape Day will not ship on Steam
6 MAR @ 9:45PM - ERIKJ
Over the past week you may have heard about a game called 'Rape Day' coming soon to Steam. Today we've decided not to distribute this game on Steam. Given our previous communication around Who Gets To Be On The Steam Store?, we think this decision warrants further explanation.

Much of our policy around what we distribute is, and must be, reactionary—we simply have to wait and see what comes to us via Steam Direct. We then have to make a judgement call about any risk it puts to Valve, our developer partners, or our customers. After significant fact-finding and discussion, we think 'Rape Day' poses unknown costs and risks and therefore won't be on Steam.

We respect developers’ desire to express themselves, and the purpose of Steam is to help developers find an audience, but this developer has chosen content matter and a way of representing it that makes it very difficult for us to help them do that."


No where in there is even a single mention of the TOS. "Unknown costs and risks" is a vague, wishy washy way of saying "This title is gonna be a PR nightmare so we will ignore our previous promise of no taste policing and ban it".

Nevermind the countless VNs which got banned most of which probably didn't deserve the ban but that market and those devs are so niche nobody cares.

The most hilarious example being The Expression: Amrilato a educational title revolving Esperanto. The title of course was probably never touched by anybody at Valve and it only got back because they angered several reputable associations which made their complaints public.

So Valve's principles bend with the wind of PR and there is no guarantee that following the TOS will secure your game on their store.

Martin Harris 2019년 8월 6일 오전 2시 28분 
cSg|mc-Hotsauce님이 먼저 게시:
I like that they tried to publish a troll game...

https://steamcommunity.com/games/1045050/announcements/detail/1603763772840678931

:qr:
(when they have a group of banned developers that make their "cause" look 100% worse)
Count_Dandyman 2019년 8월 6일 오전 3시 40분 
Kelthorian님이 먼저 게시:
Ogami님이 먼저 게시:
Because the developer broke the Steam TOS, that simple.
Games only get removed by Steam for that reason.

Most likely he used stolen artwork he did not have the copyright for and the real artist issued a DMCA with Steam.


Don't defend Valve by using lies. Valve don't need you to break the TOS for your game to be banned or never allowed entry in the first place.

"Rape Day will not ship on Steam
6 MAR @ 9:45PM - ERIKJ
Over the past week you may have heard about a game called 'Rape Day' coming soon to Steam. Today we've decided not to distribute this game on Steam. Given our previous communication around Who Gets To Be On The Steam Store?, we think this decision warrants further explanation.

Much of our policy around what we distribute is, and must be, reactionary—we simply have to wait and see what comes to us via Steam Direct. We then have to make a judgement call about any risk it puts to Valve, our developer partners, or our customers. After significant fact-finding and discussion, we think 'Rape Day' poses unknown costs and risks and therefore won't be on Steam.

We respect developers’ desire to express themselves, and the purpose of Steam is to help developers find an audience, but this developer has chosen content matter and a way of representing it that makes it very difficult for us to help them do that."


No where in there is even a single mention of the TOS. "Unknown costs and risks" is a vague, wishy washy way of saying "This title is gonna be a PR nightmare so we will ignore our previous promise of no taste policing and ban it".

Nevermind the countless VNs which got banned most of which probably didn't deserve the ban but that market and those devs are so niche nobody cares.

The most hilarious example being The Expression: Amrilato a educational title revolving Esperanto. The title of course was probably never touched by anybody at Valve and it only got back because they angered several reputable associations which made their complaints public.

So Valve's principles bend with the wind of PR and there is no guarantee that following the TOS will secure your game on their store.
You should look into just how widespread laws against glorifying rape in media is before claiming a game designed to encourage players to do so doesn't violate Valves rules against illegal content.
WhiteKnight 2019년 8월 6일 오전 9시 37분 
Kelthorian님이 먼저 게시:
-snip-

Why would you bring that name here?. Valve got loads of flak because of that title. Even UK Government noticed it. If Valve had allowed they would be monitored heavily.

Valve does not have to state why they have to remove. They have full authority to ban and remove any title from steam.


https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2019-03-07-rape-day-prompts-call-for-uk-government-review
north 2019년 8월 6일 오후 12시 19분 
would be cool if they also banned all of the achievement farming games, asset flips, troll games etc. but it looks like whoever reviewed this one just doesn't like Gachi. the other 9000 troll games continue to be on steam hmmmmmmm
Count_Dandyman 2019년 8월 6일 오후 12시 29분 
north님이 먼저 게시:
would be cool if they also banned all of the achievement farming games, asset flips, troll games etc. but it looks like whoever reviewed this one just doesn't like Gachi. the other 9000 troll games continue to be on steam hmmmmmmm
plenty of the types of games you are describing have been banned and the teams behind them removed.
NaisuGemu 2019년 8월 6일 오후 1시 01분 
Kelthorian님이 먼저 게시:
Ogami님이 먼저 게시:
Because the developer broke the Steam TOS, that simple.
Games only get removed by Steam for that reason.

Most likely he used stolen artwork he did not have the copyright for and the real artist issued a DMCA with Steam.


Don't defend Valve by using lies. Valve don't need you to break the TOS for your game to be banned or never allowed entry in the first place.

"Rape Day will not ship on Steam
6 MAR @ 9:45PM - ERIKJ
Over the past week you may have heard about a game called 'Rape Day' coming soon to Steam. Today we've decided not to distribute this game on Steam. Given our previous communication around Who Gets To Be On The Steam Store?, we think this decision warrants further explanation.

Much of our policy around what we distribute is, and must be, reactionary—we simply have to wait and see what comes to us via Steam Direct. We then have to make a judgement call about any risk it puts to Valve, our developer partners, or our customers. After significant fact-finding and discussion, we think 'Rape Day' poses unknown costs and risks and therefore won't be on Steam.

We respect developers’ desire to express themselves, and the purpose of Steam is to help developers find an audience, but this developer has chosen content matter and a way of representing it that makes it very difficult for us to help them do that."


No where in there is even a single mention of the TOS. "Unknown costs and risks" is a vague, wishy washy way of saying "This title is gonna be a PR nightmare so we will ignore our previous promise of no taste policing and ban it".

Nevermind the countless VNs which got banned most of which probably didn't deserve the ban but that market and those devs are so niche nobody cares.

The most hilarious example being The Expression: Amrilato a educational title revolving Esperanto. The title of course was probably never touched by anybody at Valve and it only got back because they angered several reputable associations which made their complaints public.

So Valve's principles bend with the wind of PR and there is no guarantee that following the TOS will secure your game on their store.

That's one of the reasons that I don't buy this kind of game here, I always give priority to a japanese store or sites like "nutaku" ... When I see the steam game without a +18 patch or, somehow, censored, I just download it on any fan website... that's totally unacceptable.
Steam is a piece of trash to play VN and eroges...
Mary Virgin 2021년 2월 17일 오전 1시 08분 
What is a 'Troll Game'? Who gets trolled? Develoeers? Testers? Buyers? Valve? Sellers? People? Animals? Furry Hentai Hybreed Creatures? Artists? All?
Mary Virgin 님이 마지막으로 수정; 2021년 2월 17일 오전 1시 42분
ReBoot 2021년 2월 17일 오전 1시 20분 
Mary Virgin님이 먼저 게시:
What is a 'Troll Game'? Who gets trolled? Develoeprs? Testers? Buyers? Valve? Sellers? People? Animals? Furry Hentai Hybreed Creatures? Artists? All?
Consider an analogy to forum trolling. Trolling is posting stuff serving no other reason than stirr up controversy while having no content except what stirs up said controversy. Troll games are subsequently games containing nothing about controversy for the sake of controversy.
Mary Virgin 2021년 2월 17일 오전 1시 42분 
ReBoot님이 먼저 게시:
Mary Virgin님이 먼저 게시:
What is a 'Troll Game'? Who gets trolled? Develoeprs? Testers? Buyers? Valve? Sellers? People? Animals? Furry Hentai Hybreed Creatures? Artists? All?
Consider an analogy to forum trolling. Trolling is posting stuff serving no other reason than stirr up controversy while having no content except what stirs up said controversy. Troll games are subsequently games containing nothing about controversy for the sake of controversy.
AH!
Archform 2021년 2월 17일 오전 2시 13분 
ReBoot님이 먼저 게시:
Mary Virgin님이 먼저 게시:
What is a 'Troll Game'? Who gets trolled? Develoeprs? Testers? Buyers? Valve? Sellers? People? Animals? Furry Hentai Hybreed Creatures? Artists? All?
Consider an analogy to forum trolling. Trolling is posting stuff serving no other reason than stirr up controversy while having no content except what stirs up said controversy. Troll games are subsequently games containing nothing about controversy for the sake of controversy.
Doesn't make sense, video games are inherently without point except entertainment. Entertainment value can only be determined by those who purchase and play.
So basically if it causes a potential controversy they are cancelled. Well that falls in line with current cancel culture that is getting popular. However it makes me wonder what the filter settings are specifically.
Opium Honey 2021년 2월 17일 오전 2시 52분 
I don't know if Steam's policy has changed but today we have more "controversial" games than Furry Girl and they are still on sale.

:TalesofWinds_WhiteFox:
Mustache Mann 2021년 2월 17일 오전 2시 58분 
well way back when, i agree but they apparently got a lot of complaints of scams off the websites, its what i heard, so take it with a huge grain of salt
Count_Dandyman 2021년 2월 17일 오전 3시 09분 
Raposa Branca님이 먼저 게시:
I don't know if Steam's policy has changed but today we have more "controversial" games than Furry Girl and they are still on sale.

:TalesofWinds_WhiteFox:
If you actually read what was posted in the thread you will see that Furry Girl itself wasn't considered a problem it was the other game by the same developers that was the problem.

Furry Girl simply got caught in the fact that once a developer or publisher gets removed from Steam everything they have in the store goes with them.
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