Store's stance on abandonware?

[Aya]

While we got some rare cases of games being accused as abandonware, I think it'd be worth wondering as to what is Valve's stance on Steam Store games becoming abandonware.

To further clarify as to what i mean, I can recall two cases of two games having their PC versions abandoned in favour of console support: Mortal Kombat X and Jamestown, though both games ended up getting updates to bring them in line with the console releases (although it took a very long time and some angry customers)

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Example, fallout 3. Bethesda nolonger updates it. But now microsoft needs to do it, themselfs. Why, the game was bought for the x-box. Hence, it is a bad idea for steam to come up with their own console.

Again, any source on this? You seem to have time to post, then you also have time to link a source for these claims.

I have a crew lock now, cause of a server crash.

[Count_Dandyman]

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no Microsoft does not need to update fallout 3 and it has not been updated for years.

Well i got myself a game ready player, 3 months ago. From microsoft, to play the game on win 10. The same update you get, on the x-box. Next to that, i live in the Netherlands. We got gambling laws, so no loot boxes anymore. Good thing btw, kids get addicted for nothing. Then there is the law, what you buy is yours. And everything that has to do with electronics, has a 2 year garantee.

that is not a new update it is an old update being installed now.

[Crazy Tiger]

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no Microsoft does not need to update fallout 3 and it has not been updated for years.

Well i got myself a game ready player, 3 months ago. From microsoft, to play the game on win 10. The same update you get, on the x-box. Next to that, i live in the Netherlands. We got gambling laws, so no loot boxes anymore. Good thing btw, kids get addicted for nothing. Then there is the law, what you buy is yours. And everything that has to do with electronics, has a 2 year garantee.

I have Fallout 3 on the Xbox 360. There hasn't been an update in years for that game.

2 year warranties are for physical electronical appliances. Digital content, ergo games, does not fall within that. You might want to look up our laws, mate.

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Well i got myself a game ready player, 3 months ago. From microsoft, to play the game on win 10. The same update you get, on the x-box. Next to that, i live in the Netherlands. We got gambling laws, so no loot boxes anymore. Good thing btw, kids get addicted for nothing. Then there is the law, what you buy is yours. And everything that has to do with electronics, has a 2 year garantee.

that is not a new update it is an old update being installed now.

Could not play the game a day before. And it was a new update. See they need to keep up, with the gamestore, x-box players, internet connections. So the game yes no new update. But you do get a new one so you can run it. It's a standard one also used for other games. Internet protocols and all. Afterall if you buy the game, you might buy some mods in the ingame store. Which you can't, if the game does not run on the platform.

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Well i got myself a game ready player, 3 months ago. From microsoft, to play the game on win 10. The same update you get, on the x-box. Next to that, i live in the Netherlands. We got gambling laws, so no loot boxes anymore. Good thing btw, kids get addicted for nothing. Then there is the law, what you buy is yours. And everything that has to do with electronics, has a 2 year garantee.

I have Fallout 3 on the Xbox 360. There hasn't been an update in years for that game.

2 year warranties are for physical electronical appliances. Digital content, ergo games, does not fall within that. You might want to look up our laws, mate.

I did, which country do you live in.

[Crazy Tiger]

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I have Fallout 3 on the Xbox 360. There hasn't been an update in years for that game.

2 year warranties are for physical electronical appliances. Digital content, ergo games, does not fall within that. You might want to look up our laws, mate.

I did, which country do you live in.

Same as yours. Regarding digital content our country follow the EU directive. Which offers no 2 year guarantee, as you withdraw your rights the moment you use the content within 14 days after purchase. Which is either the moment it's attached to your account or the moment it is downloaded, depending on how companies have put it.

In the case of Steam, it's the moment it's attached to your account.

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I did, which country do you live in.

Same as yours. Regarding digital content our country follow the EU directive. Which offers no 2 year guarantee, as you withdraw your rights the moment you use the content within 14 days after purchase. Which is either the moment it's attached to your account or the moment it is downloaded, depending on how companies have put it.

In the case of Steam, it's the moment it's attached to your account.

Which book, which paragraph, cause something changed probaly again. I guess it was another night job in den hague. While the rest was a sleep once more. 1 thing is for sure about abonded games. I really suggest steam to stop selling them, and provide a platform for them. And to remove all reviews. If not and the game appears to be broken, and the DEV did not tell steam. Then steam is responsable. Same with a washing machine, you buy it in the store not from the factory. Who needs to pay up and give you a new one.

[Count_Dandyman]

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Crazy Tiger の投稿を引用：

Same as yours. Regarding digital content our country follow the EU directive. Which offers no 2 year guarantee, as you withdraw your rights the moment you use the content within 14 days after purchase. Which is either the moment it's attached to your account or the moment it is downloaded, depending on how companies have put it.

In the case of Steam, it's the moment it's attached to your account.

Which book, which paragraph, cause something changed probaly again. I guess it was another night job in den hague. While the rest was a sleep once more. 1 thing is for sure about abonded games. I really suggest steam to stop selling them, and provide a platform for them. And to remove all reviews. If not and the game appears to be broken, and the DEV did not tell steam. Then steam is responsable. Same with a washing machine, you buy it in the store not from the factory. Who needs to pay up and give you a new one.

finished games aren't abandoned though and that difference is something you and the OP need to accept

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Example, fallout 3. Bethesda nolonger updates it. But now microsoft needs to do it, themselfs. Why, the game was bought for the x-box. Hence, it is a bad idea for steam to come up with their own console.

no Microsoft does not need to update fallout 3 and it has not been updated for years.

Fallout 3 runs on Windows 10 just fine anyway. Not without any additional effort, but Windows 10 directs the user towards said additional effort so the user literally have to follow instructions, no thinking required.

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Which book, which paragraph, cause something changed probaly again. I guess it was another night job in den hague. While the rest was a sleep once more. 1 thing is for sure about abonded games. I really suggest steam to stop selling them, and provide a platform for them. And to remove all reviews. If not and the game appears to be broken, and the DEV did not tell steam. Then steam is responsable. Same with a washing machine, you buy it in the store not from the factory. Who needs to pay up and give you a new one.

finished games aren't abandoned though and that difference is something you and the OP need to accept

I know about 1 game. 1st time, when i started the game up. With their own launcher, steam started so is guess a russian company has my steam login codes. Then after a year i noticed that A the game was broke, and B no eula. But the worst part is, they are phishing for classified data to make the game more realistic. Data about tanks and planes and boats. It ain't do to about the cash, for me. I just want to prevent that a lot of US players end up in military prison.

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no Microsoft does not need to update fallout 3 and it has not been updated for years.

Fallout 3 runs on Windows 10 just fine anyway. Not without any additional effort, but Windows 10 directs the user towards said additional effort so the user literally have to follow instructions, no thinking required.

I downloaded it, and nothing happend. I thought it was broken. Next day i started up my rig. And just after the start screen was gone. I got a notification, F3 was detected and if i wanted to download a gameready driver.

[Count_Dandyman]

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Fallout 3 runs on Windows 10 just fine anyway. Not without any additional effort, but Windows 10 directs the user towards said additional effort so the user literally have to follow instructions, no thinking required.

I downloaded it, and nothing happend. I thought it was broken. Next day i started up my rig. And just after the start screen was gone. I got a notification, F3 was detected and if i wanted to download a gameready driver.

so not a game update at all and just a driver update then.

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I downloaded it, and nothing happend. I thought it was broken. Next day i started up my rig. And just after the start screen was gone. I got a notification, F3 was detected and if i wanted to download a gameready driver.

so not a game update at all and just a driver update then.

Being from the Netherlands the way we form our sentences is different so sometimes it goes wrong. Yes that is what i meant. A driver update, microsoft needs to update it. Cause they sell it on x-box. We get the same driver, cause of A the same source code. And B, for other games to go online rig versus console.

[Count_Dandyman]

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so not a game update at all and just a driver update then.

Being from the Netherlands the way we form our sentences is different so sometimes it goes wrong. Yes that is what i meant. A driver update, microsoft needs to update it. Cause they sell it on x-box. We get the same driver, cause of A the same source code. And B, for other games to go online rig versus console.

except game ready drivers are a thing done for graphics card by the companies responsible for them not by Microsoft and they do not in any way update or change the game so still not an update to Fallout 3 and still not provided by Microsoft or required by law.

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so not a game update at all and just a driver update then.

Being from the Netherlands the way we form our sentences is different so sometimes it goes wrong. Yes that is what i meant. A driver update, microsoft needs to update it. Cause they sell it on x-box. We get the same driver, cause of A the same source code. And B, for other games to go online rig versus console.

Dude, what you're saying doesn't make the slightest sence. For starters, there's no drivers on the XBox. None you have any contact with, at least.
Next, when there's a driver update from, let's say, Nvidia, Microsoft doesn't need to update anything. The most Microsoft does is distributing the new driver via Windows Update. But that's about it. As for that "same source code" part, that's absolute bollocks. Even when talking AMD GPUs (which is used on the XBox), that's not the same source code and it can't be. First, because the platform is different, second because the hardware is different. Third, none of this matters because you're throwing several things into one basket here. We're talking about games (not) being supported, not graphics drivers. Stop spewing nonsense please.