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!Bartor 2019 年 6 月 26 日 上午 12:37
Grand Prix XP is STILL absolutely broken
UPDATE: https://steamcommunity.com/games/593110/announcements/detail/1612767708782238286

Lastly, we've heard you on the Grand Prix Badge. Man that thing is hefty! It is awarding *signficantly* more XP than intended. We'll be fixing this bug soon, lightening the value of the badge. While this may be dissappointing in the short term, we want to respect the value of past and future badges earned and feel this correction is the fairest measure we can take to make things right. If you no longer love your Grand Prix Badge, you will be able to exchange it at the Pit Stop for the number of of tokens you've spent on it.

Valve has heard us and they're nerfing the badge XP.
Yeah they backed away from that

ORIGINAL POST:

People who didn't even buy anything are randomly getting thousands of points and there is 1:1 correspondence (it doesn't scale AT ALL) between them and profile XP, thus making dozens of profile levels out of thin air. This really kills any feeling of pride and accomplishment that your previous profile level gave you, because your friends randomly get massive boosts. Volvo fix plz, rollback, make the badge scale or whatever, that kind of levelling hasn't been possible ever before.
最后由 !Bartor 编辑于; 2019 年 6 月 29 日 上午 2:14
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Cthulhu 2019 年 6 月 30 日 下午 3:21 
引用自 TrueBobert
Hey so tryna catch up on this thread
What's the difference between someone who abused the badge
And someone who has spent a lot of money on steam to basically get this as a loyalty reward

Don't listen to those people defending this summer badge, the only exploit fixed was the one involving a signed integer underflow with the number of tokens when redeeming.
Anyone who used the exploit of buying in-game store items and selling them in the community market are still at large as seen here: https://steamladder.com/ladder/badges/37/
Manwith Noname 2019 年 6 月 30 日 下午 3:21 
引用自 Cthulhu
And finally, even a censorship-heavy platform such as Reddit still allows for you to tag users by u/<ID>, also a public ID, while still not allowing for doxing.
Is this naming and shaming too?

I don't use reddit but isn't that the equivalent of tagging? So, when you do that, the user receives a notification they have been mentioned in a thread?
Chompman 2019 年 6 月 30 日 下午 3:22 
引用自 Cthulhu
引用自 Chompman
The issue is it falls under the "naming and shaming" rules.

You see these at times when people say this profile was used to trade scam for instance and link it and people tell them to remove the link because of it and eventually they or the mods do just that.

Posting peoples profiles who you believe have abused the event to get high levels is no different as what they do and thus why it got removed.

It's not just about doxxing as you believe but because you are breaking the naming and shaming rule in a way.

First off all, naming and shaming is an unwritten rule present only in a guide, not in the official Steam Guidelines I've posted above.

Second, there was no naming and shaming as the guide also doesn't say anything about just posting profile ids.
I merely posted the word suspicious and didn't ask for any action to be taken.
No topic was also created about it, just an addedum post.
Why is naming and shaming not allowed?
The Steam Community is not a place to do this. One reason is that claims can be faked. Anyone could potentially create false information about another user and encourage report abuse based on that information.

Instead of creating naming and shaming topics, use the provided “Report Violation” functionality located on a users profile to report suspected scamming or other abuse.

Some additional notes:
More profile reports do not make them more true. A scammer, cheater, etc. will be dealt with once evaluated by Valve.
Only create legitimate reports. Clogging up the system, whether that be in Game Hubs or Discussions by creating false/excessive reports, is just making the system less effective. Plus it can be considered spam.

For more information about scammers and reporting them, please see the Steam Support FAQ regarding Trade Scams.

And finally, even a censorship-heavy platform such as Reddit still allows for you to tag users by u/<ID>, also a public ID, while still not allowing for doxing.
Is this naming and shaming too?
Posting peoples profiles falls under the rules here as the mods have said multiple times:

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=4045-USHJ-3810&amp;l=

Post personally identifiable information (i.e. name, address, email, phone number, etc.)

Just because it does not directly say not to do this does not mean it's acceptable.

If you believe your comment was censored incorrectly report it and move on as complaining about it is also against the rules there about moderation.

If you were to post negative things about an individual on other sites like reddit as you used as an example in public forums you would expect the post to get deleted or edited also and this is no different.

Here is a link as one of the many examples telling people not to name and shame:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/730/discussions/0/1621726179584510041/
True 2019 年 6 月 30 日 下午 3:23 
引用自 Cheddar Bob
引用自 Chompman
Now that the exploits have been supposedly fixed and those that did it were adjusted back there is no difference.

It's just very easy to level your steam profile now with this event even if it means next to nothing other then a fancy number for the most part as some people treat their steam profiles as if it means something important to everyone else.

It's so funny watching everyone cry about it hahaha
Very interesting seeing the disparity between users
Before this event was already twice that man's user level
Why, because I like investing into my account
And this event is basically just a reward for brand loyalty
Am I worried about the level economy
No, because the rate of users that have leveled up has been proportional for the most part with users who have previously invested
There's a lot of hyperbole thrown around about the level economy
But the rate of outliers is so small compared to people to put in very large investments on their account in the first place
Chompman 2019 年 6 月 30 日 下午 3:23 
引用自 Cthulhu
引用自 TrueBobert
Hey so tryna catch up on this thread
What's the difference between someone who abused the badge
And someone who has spent a lot of money on steam to basically get this as a loyalty reward

Don't listen to those people defending this summer badge, the only exploit fixed was the one involving a signed integer underflow with the number of tokens when redeeming.
Anyone who used the exploit of buying in-game store items and selling them in the community market are still at large as seen here: https://steamladder.com/ladder/badges/37/
How is that an exploit?

Buying items / games is the way you get more max points and is how it's intended to work.

The only issue here is how easy it is to level your profile now with the event at the moment.
最后由 Chompman 编辑于; 2019 年 6 月 30 日 下午 3:24
*P0P$*FR3$H3NM3Y3R* 2019 年 6 月 30 日 下午 3:24 
Post personally identifiable information (i.e. name, address, email, phone number, etc.)
Posting a profile doesn't contain these info unless the person voluntarily puts em in their STEAM page for whatever weird reason.
The backseat moderation is strong in this one.
True 2019 年 6 月 30 日 下午 3:25 
引用自 Cthulhu
引用自 TrueBobert
Hey so tryna catch up on this thread
What's the difference between someone who abused the badge
And someone who has spent a lot of money on steam to basically get this as a loyalty reward

Don't listen to those people defending this summer badge, the only exploit fixed was the one involving a signed integer underflow with the number of tokens when redeeming.
Anyone who used the exploit of buying in-game store items and selling them in the community market are still at large as seen here: https://steamladder.com/ladder/badges/37/
What would you say to my badge level
As I may be in at least the top 500 based on that
最后由 True 编辑于; 2019 年 6 月 30 日 下午 3:25
Chompman 2019 年 6 月 30 日 下午 3:25 
引用自 *P0P$*FR3$H3NM3Y3R*
Post personally identifiable information (i.e. name, address, email, phone number, etc.)
Posting a profile doesn't contain these info unless the person voluntarily puts em in their STEAM page for whatever weird reason.
The backseat moderation is strong in this one.
The mods have said multiple times that posting a persons profile on a post without permission falls under this definition also.
Cthulhu 2019 年 6 月 30 日 下午 3:27 
引用自 Chompman
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God, can you stop repeating the same stuff over and over? I already went through that rule and it clearly means doxing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doxing

Arguing with a moderator is in the rule list. I don't see a moderator in here that I am arguing with, you are the guys who started the arguing whether I broke the rule or not, I had simply posted that I had been warned over this.

And here too as you simply don't want to understand what naming and shaming is: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/naming-and-shaming
*P0P$*FR3$H3NM3Y3R* 2019 年 6 月 30 日 下午 3:28 
引用自 Chompman
引用自 *P0P$*FR3$H3NM3Y3R*
Posting a profile doesn't contain these info unless the person voluntarily puts em in their STEAM page for whatever weird reason.
The backseat moderation is strong in this one.
The mods have said multiple times that posting a persons profile on a post without permission falls under this definition also.
freemods or valve mods?
Cthulhu 2019 年 6 月 30 日 下午 3:29 
引用自 Chompman
The mods have said multiple times that posting a persons profile on a post without permission falls under this definition also.

Where? The link you posted says nothing about posting profile ids.
最后由 Cthulhu 编辑于; 2019 年 6 月 30 日 下午 3:36
Chompman 2019 年 6 月 30 日 下午 3:30 
引用自 Cthulhu
引用自 Chompman
The mods have said multiple times that posting a persons profile on a post without permission falls under this definition also.

Where? The link you posted say nothing about posting profile ids.
The 2nd link and various other posts the mods have made in the "name and shame" posts people have made in the past.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/730/discussions/0/1621726179584510041/
最后由 Chompman 编辑于; 2019 年 6 月 30 日 下午 3:30
Cthulhu 2019 年 6 月 30 日 下午 3:30 
引用自 Chompman
How is that an exploit?

Buying items / games is the way you get more max points and is how it's intended to work.

The only issue here is how easy it is to level your profile now with the event at the moment.

Are you pretending to be ignorant to how it works or are you truly?

You buy the in-game store item, get the tokens, sell the item in the market to get your money back but still keep the tokens...
Chompman 2019 年 6 月 30 日 下午 3:31 
引用自 Cthulhu
引用自 Chompman
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God, can you stop repeating the same stuff over and over? I already went through that rule and it clearly means doxing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doxing

Arguing with a moderator is in the rule list. I don't see a moderator in here that I am arguing with, you are the guys who started the arguing whether I broke the rule or not, I had simply posted that I had been warned over this.

And here too as you simply don't want to understand what naming and shaming is: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/naming-and-shaming
What a wiki says and what the rules on this forum are two different things so stop using one to defend the other.
Cthulhu 2019 年 6 月 30 日 下午 3:31 
引用自 Chompman
The 2nd link and various other posts the mods have made in the "name and shame" posts people have made in the past.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/730/discussions/0/1621726179584510041/

Says nothing about posting profile ids without the "shaming" part.

EDIT: And the wiki link is merely to compare the definition of doxing with the one in the rule... JESUS!!!
最后由 Cthulhu 编辑于; 2019 年 6 月 30 日 下午 3:32
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