REVIEWS: WHATS THE POINT OF THUMB DOWN NOW ?

[Rickyel™]

Now reviews show only the number of thumbs up.
So whats the effect of a thumb down now?

Thanks.

[Start_Running]

They still get counted towards determining the reviews position in the order

[Mewfii]

Basically like the LOOT program

[WolfEisberg]

Originally posted by Rickyel:

Now reviews show only the number of thumbs up.
So whats the effect of a thumb down now?

Thanks.

They are still used to determine what position you will see a review on the list. For example:

a review with 200 thumbs up and with 5 thumbs down will be higher on the list than a review with 500 thumbs up and 150 thumbs down.

[Jersey77]

What about the thumbs down buttons on articles displayed on the News tab of the Community Activity page? Seems to be no effect there.

[CsabinhoGrande]

Originally posted by Start_Running:

They still get counted towards determining the reviews position in the order

But still for instance at this crappy review you only see that 34 people found it helpful, and not that over 500 people didn't find it helpful. Steam just messed up their working ratings system...

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Why not join one of the many threads about this already?

Here's one http://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/3183345176720228961/

[WolfEisberg]

Originally posted by CsabinhoGrande:

Originally posted by Start_Running:

They still get counted towards determining the reviews position in the order

But still for instance at this crappy review you only see that 34 people found it helpful, and not that over 500 people didn't find it helpful. Steam just messed up their working ratings system...

I tried to look for that review through the review tab, picking most helpful of all time and picking negative. I went through about 10 loading more review messages and never found it. So the thumbs down have buried it making it a lot less likely anybody wound see it.

So nothing is messed up.

[Start_Running]

Originally posted by CsabinhoGrande:

Originally posted by Start_Running:

They still get counted towards determining the reviews position in the order

But still for instance at this crappy review you only see that 34 people found it helpful, and not that over 500 people didn't find it helpful. Steam just messed up their working ratings system...

Nope they just chose the prioritize the positive review as the primary metric. If there was another review with 34 positives but only 100 down votes,m that review would be given display priority.

It's actually a nifty fix for a major problem with reviews. The reasons people downvote tend to be more linked to spite.. Negative reviews in particular tend to attract swarms of downvotes from butthurt fans.

So think of it like this. Positive is the primary sorting. Where two games have the same upvote count, the one with the lowest downvotes is given priority. WHere both the upvotes and downvotes and equal, then i think it's the reviews creation/last-edited time stamp that's used (most recent being given priority).

They also took steps to mitigate the effect of boosters/bombers

Edit: Also that review isn't that bad. It actually tells you that nothing is added mechanics wise to the game or content wise. Basically confirming what might be inferred from the description. I marked the review helpful.

It's not a bad review. Recommendation and the justification for the recommendation given along with a little information about the product.

[edesignspl]

Originally posted by Start_Running:

It's actually a nifty fix for a major problem with reviews. The reasons people downvote tend to be more linked to spite.. Negative reviews in particular tend to attract swarms of downvotes from butthurt fans.

Nothing to do with butthurt anybody. It's because the vast majority of negative reviews were childish, devoid of any real content, or whining about things that weren't about the game itself.

[VisciousFishes]

Originally posted by edesignspl:

Originally posted by Start_Running:

It's actually a nifty fix for a major problem with reviews. The reasons people downvote tend to be more linked to spite.. Negative reviews in particular tend to attract swarms of downvotes from butthurt fans.

Nothing to do with butthurt anybody. It's because the vast majority of negative reviews were childish, devoid of any real content, or whining about things that weren't about the game itself.

There was a time when members of the community for a certain fighting game all review bombed with negative reviews after the devs made a bad business decision. This was done to show the distaste to the devs as a protest. It was a fair response to a decision that was later changed. Petitions are often ignored but a large number of sales missed because of the community response cannot be ignored.

It's not easy to change the thumb direction though. A user's experience changes as we play games and our reviews should change to reflect our changing feelings on the product. Also, developers shouldn't be allowed to remove reviews that they disagree with.

[CsabinhoGrande]

Originally posted by Start_Running:

[Edit: Also that review isn't that bad. It actually tells you that nothing is added mechanics wise to the game or content wise. Basically confirming what might be inferred from the description. I marked the review helpful.

It's not a bad review. Recommendation and the justification for the recommendation given along with a little information about the product.

Seriously?
That's a review by a guy who didn't read the description for people who don't read the description...

[Start_Running]

Originally posted by CsabinhoGrande:

Seriously?
That's a review by a guy who didn't read the description for people who don't read the description...

Which in terms of Steam users, makes it extremely helpful. There are many people like the reviewer on steam.

[CsabinhoGrande]

You mean it's a review for idiots by one of them, so it's useful?