Tasi's baby theory (spoilers)

[Rhino1931]

So I'm coming forward with a theory that could possibly change one of the endings of the game to seem a little better than the other two.

During the course of the game we find out that Tasi is pregnant, and later that the baby is afflicted with the same illness that killed Alys... or at least that's what we're told.

Now bear with me, I know we see the machine that Tasi enters diagnosing the baby as ill, but if I remember correctly at the end of the game when we find out the deal the empress pressed, she never mentioned this to Tasi, instead just claiming to want the baby in exchange for saving the others.

So what is to say that the empress didn't just lie about this? She clearly isn't truthful about things (she claimed she would help Tasi's companions, regardless of whether she gave up her baby, but as we saw this was complete ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥) and we know that she's aware of Tasi's past tragedy with Alys, so who's to say that she doesn't take advantage of this in an attempt to trick Tasi into giving up her baby in the end?

As for the machine diagnosing the baby, as Tasi we're constantly seeing things that may or may not be real, and with the empress' presence at this moment of the game it could be highly possible that she is showing Tasi a fabricated diagnosis to give false evidence for her plan.

I know there isn't too much to this argument that's based mostly on conjecture and circumstantial evidence, but I genuinely think this could be a valid point.

[Rhino1931]

Come on people, give me your input on this!

[El Fuerte]

i thought about that as well. The empress is just fishy to say the least. She is clearly willing to do anything in order to become a mother including lying and killing.

I'm more interested about how the baby is growing so fast in Tasi's womb though, and how did Tasi ended up all the way back in the plane with amnesia. Is that the Empress' doing? Is that some kind of side effect from the Fountain? Did the Empress used Alexander's, or better yet, Ayandra's amnesia potion on Tasi? Can the Empress manipulate time for the sake of the baby? Is the bracelet responsible for these time jumps?

[miguelneto_]

The empress does tell Tasi the baby has an illness. This setence can be seen at the end, right after Tasi kills the doctor. She remembers it.

@Red"cake?"457 the amnesia is related to the transformation into Harverters. Somewhere in the game another crew members says he/she (i dont remember now) is forgetting or remembering things.

[miguelneto_]

Originally posted by miguelneto_:

The empress does tell Tasi the baby has an illness. This setence can be seen at the end, right after Tasi kills the doctor. She remembers it.

@Red"cake?"457 the amnesia is related to the transformation into Harverters. Somewhere in the game another crew members says he/she (i dont remember now) is forgetting or remembering things.

The very first note in her notebook is "she will die". It means the Amari.

[El Fuerte]

Originally posted by miguelneto_:

The empress does tell Tasi the baby has an illness. This setence can be seen at the end, right after Tasi kills the doctor. She remembers it.

@Red"cake?"457 the amnesia is related to the transformation into Harverters. Somewhere in the game another crew members says he/she (i dont remember now) is forgetting or remembering things.

yes but why is that only Tasi seem to be affected by full Amnesia before turning, while leon and the others are already eating flesh before forgetting everything?

Originally posted by miguelneto_:

The very first note in her notebook is "she will die". It means the Amari.

We are 100% aware that the Empress said that the baby Amari is sick and gonna die. We are questioning whenever the Empress is even telling the truth in the first place. She could've even manipulated that X-ray machine. Alexander's people are extremely cold and manipulative beings.

[DF]

At this point I am more curious about the whole Shadow bridge. During the game some comment on the flesh thing. That's all. What happens with the baby is not that important to me. Destroy the machine. What happens to the Shadow then?

[El Fuerte]

Originally posted by DF:

At this point I am more curious about the whole Shadow bridge. During the game some comment on the flesh thing. That's all. What happens with the baby is not that important to me. <spoiler>You leave it and become a monster or escape and maybe get taken. Destroy the machine</spoiler>. What happens to the Shadow then?

In my ending: Tasi, the Empress and Amari all die and the Shadow is trapped in Alexander's realm since everything is destroyed including orbs and portals.

[DF]

Originally posted by 𝐑𝐞𝐝♚𝟒𝟓𝟕:

Originally posted by DF:

At this point I am more curious about the whole Shadow bridge. During the game some comment on the flesh thing. That's all. What happens with the baby is not that important to me. <spoiler>You leave it and become a monster or escape and maybe get taken. Destroy the machine</spoiler>. What happens to the Shadow then?

In my ending: Tasi, the Empress and Amari all die and the Shadow is trapped in Alexander's realm since everything is destroyed including orbs and portals.

This one is the true good ending all things considered by the way. As Empress said, it demands sacrifice. She didn't mean this by that I can imagine. Take that Shadow.

[Wistala]

The thing for me is that even if the empress is lying (which she easily could be) Tasi is still slowly turning into a harvester, so whatever Amari has the illness or not, doesn't really seem to be that relevant.

Amari stays with the empress, Tasi dies/turns into a harvester. Amari lives.

Empress is destroyed Tasi and Amari dies.

Escape to Paris. Tasi turns into a harvester and probably gets killed by the humans when she starts to attack or gets captured for experiments. Amari ? depending on if the empress were lying or not.

Originally posted by 𝐑𝐞𝐝♚𝟒𝟓𝟕:

I'm more interested about how the baby is growing so fast in Tasi's womb though, and how did Tasi ended up all the way back in the plane with amnesia. Is that the Empress' doing? Is that some kind of side effect from the Fountain?

Well the empress did say she had to turn Tasi into something she could control after she kept refusing to give the baby to her. So its possible she lost her memories there and the empress then made Tasi walk all the way to the plane for some reason, or Tasi tried to run away.

[miguelneto_]

yes but why is that only Tasi seem to be affected by full Amnesia before turning, while leon and the others are already eating flesh before forgetting everything?

The doctor is also not turned. It means not everybody turns very fast, Tasi included.
I don't remember now, but I think Leon is also affected by the amnesia, but he remembers what happened along his texts.

We are 100% aware that the Empress said that the baby Amari is sick and gonna die. We are questioning whenever the Empress is even telling the truth in the first place. She could've even manipulated that X-ray machine. Alexander's people are extremely cold and manipulative beings.

There is no evidence she manipulated the manchine. She can't touch things while on etheral form. By all means she is a "ghost" in that form. So that she makes the airplane crew drink the "harverster turning water" for themselves; she doesn't force them. On the other hand, the Empress can control the harverters minds when they are fully turned.

[_filosofem_]

During the end credits of the Paris ending, we can see the picture of Tasi with Amari and Amari seems to fade in the wind. I think it is a clue about her having the same illness as her sister unfortunately.

But it also means that she was able to reach a few years with Tasi being normal at her side, so all in all I find it to be the best ending. Having Amari grow up with her mother despite being ill is probably what's best for both, as they are still able to enjoy a few years together.

[El Fuerte]

Originally posted by _filosofem_:

During the end credits of the Paris ending, we can see the picture of Tasi with Amari and Amari seems to fade in the wind. I think it is a clue about her having the same illness as her sister unfortunately.

But it also means that she was able to reach a few years with Tasi being normal at her side, so all in all I find it to be the best ending. Having Amari grow up with her mother despite being ill is probably what's best for both, as they are still able to enjoy a few years together.

nah kill everything with the red shots

[_filosofem_]

That's what I did on my first playthrough aha, but I couldn't help feeling sorry for that baby though.

[Neptune Towers]

I still cannot understand why it had to be Tasi's baby specifically, apart from the game requiring a plot. I mean, there's at least one African tribe that worships Tin-Hinan directly and leaves sacrifices for her. Why not just ask them for a baby? It would likely be the highest honor for them.

The endings of this game feel kinda hammy-nihilistic for the sake of being nihilistic, instead of actually carrying the weight of troubling realizations.

[schiсksal]

"I'm going to have another child. Christ."