[SPOILERS] Endings discussion (+ questions)

[ATH!]

Well, as I understood there is no good ending. Wich one is the optimal you think?
The "Good" one is not good after all: Amari is ill and Tasi is till possesed. There is a hint on final credits about that.
I think that "saving" Amari is most optimal, becouse at least she is saved, but company of the ghost lady is pretty.. errr

Also ghost lady said that she will save the whole company for a child. But did she really mean to do it? I mean, Tasi becomes goul anyway after giving the child

[MapleOmega]

Being the cycle of suffering in this world and the harvesting of Vitae, like in the Dark Descent is still as disgusting then as it was now. I chose to end everything, Tasi was doomed at this point and Amari would have faired no better.

When selfishness outweighs common sense and only brings more suffering, it's time to end the game.

[The Highwayman]

You all seem to be ignoring the fact that the goddess is very obviously a liar and can't be trusted. Her intentions for your baby are without a doubt nefarious.

Things you're taking her word on:
- the baby won't survive, which she can tell just by looking at you.
- she cares about the survival of one human baby while countless sentient beings are tortured and killed on a daily basis to sustain her life
- she's not going to do anything bad to the baby
- she was capable of saving your expedition
- she was planning to save your expedition

She doomed your whole crew to eternal torment as harvesters because you wouldn't give her a baby. Obviously she doesn't care about human life. She has some other reason to want your baby. You see in the end that she can't even be bothered to respond to the doctor after he brings it to her.

IMO the good ending is bringing it all down and letting the shadow put you all out of your misery.

[Bankai9212]

Originally posted by Lemon Party Animal:

You all seem to be ignoring the fact that the goddess is very obviously a liar and can't be trusted. Her intentions for your baby are without a doubt nefarious.

Things you're taking her word on:
- the baby won't survive, which she can tell just by looking at you.
- she cares about the survival of one human baby while countless sentient beings are tortured and killed on a daily basis to sustain her life
- she's not going to do anything bad to the baby
- she was capable of saving your expedition
- she was planning to save your expedition

She doomed your whole crew to eternal torment as harvesters because you wouldn't give her a baby. Obviously she doesn't care about human life. She has some other reason to want your baby. You see in the end that she can't even be bothered to respond to the doctor after he brings it to her.

IMO the good ending is bringing it all down and letting the shadow put you all out of your misery.

Well considering the scan also confirmed something was wrong with the child it wasn’t strictly by looking at her. Everything else is obvious based on notes, and the fact you weren’t the first to find them.

[ATH!]

I dont understand.

Originally posted by Bankai9212:

Originally posted by Donitz:

Tihana could move freely between the worlds with her suit. Would not Amari be able to do the same?

That was a projection, not a suit her true form is what we see at the end. If anything its a way to bait more sacrifices to there world.

What do you mean? Why projection and not a true gorm?

[Bankai9212]

Originally posted by ATH!:

I dont understand.

Originally posted by Bankai9212:

That was a projection, not a suit her true form is what we see at the end. If anything its a way to bait more sacrifices to there world.

What do you mean? Why projection and not a true gorm?

She was the creature you see in her chamber. The form she takes is a projection, you think anyone would talk or listen to her if they knew what she actually looked like.

[gRRRz]

for me the best ending it's the blow everything up ending. It's the typical trolley problem. It would end the suffering of millions. Tasi is doomed. It's only awful for the baby; but she is also doomed anyway without the place.

[gRRRz]

Originally posted by Lemon Party Animal:

You all seem to be ignoring the fact that the goddess is very obviously a liar and can't be trusted. Her intentions for your baby are without a doubt nefarious.

The empress took the baby because she couldn't have a child of her own. We can suspect she'll take good care of her; at least according to her worldview. She's a liar yes; but in this case if the child suffers it won't be because the empress wants it; but because she failed at it or she unwiningly harmed her.

Originally posted by Lemon Party Animal:

Things you're taking her word on:
- the baby won't survive, which she can tell just by looking at you.

you perfectly know how you'll end up; you've seen all the others who drank the fountain. it's foolish to think you can go on like this. The only good thing you could do after going back to Paris would be to give the baby to someone you trust and get commited to a psychiatric ward.

[Tummyache]

Technically speaking, there's never any real confirmation that the baby is sick other than the medical scan and the queen insisting it. Both of those could have just been the queen faking it in order to get the baby for herself.

Also, we don't know what the disease even was that killed the original child. It's assumed to be some kind of hereditary thing, but if it was something like Polio then she might have lived long enough for a vaccine or penicillin to be developed.

Tasi is boned because there probably isn't ever going to be a cure for "becoming a ghoul", but the baby might actually be fine in the escape ending.

[Donitz]

It also makes no sense that Tasi would need to inject Amari with vitae while still in the womb. The empress could have done it herself.

[miguelneto_]

Originally posted by Lemon Party Animal:

You all seem to be ignoring the fact that the goddess is very obviously a liar and can't be trusted. Her intentions for your baby are without a doubt nefarious.

Things you're taking her word on:
- the baby won't survive, which she can tell just by looking at you.
- she cares about the survival of one human baby while countless sentient beings are tortured and killed on a daily basis to sustain her life
- she's not going to do anything bad to the baby
- she was capable of saving your expedition
- she was planning to save your expedition

She doomed your whole crew to eternal torment as harvesters because you wouldn't give her a baby. Obviously she doesn't care about human life. She has some other reason to want your baby. You see in the end that she can't even be bothered to respond to the doctor after he brings it to her.

IMO the good ending is bringing it all down and letting the shadow put you all out of your misery.

Yes, she lied when she said she would help the crew before their passage through the desert; she turned them all into Harversters.
Yes, she was (because i ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ broke everything in that planet with the shadow injections) very selfish because she wanted a baby she never had;
But I don't believe she lied about the Baby's eternal need for Vitae. The manchine at the "theater" showed there was a problem with the baby, and there are some texts mentioning there are conditions that the Vitae cannot fully heal;


I found this game to be very good. Congrats, Frictional!
Here are a few aspects I didn't like in the game:
1) There is no way to get the Vitae Cells without killing Kita, the betrayer;
2) Kita, the betrayer, says in one of his texts that ,while he is "drinking" Vitae, he will try to find a solution to the mess he's done in that world. But we only find a creepy creature, completely defenseless. I didn't quite understand this part. How is he still alive? Why hadn't the Empress already killed him?
3) There is no explanation for the "water monsters" seen in Dark Descent.

[miguelneto_]

And also the empress never promised a cure for Tasi. She said the vitae would "aid" he baby, only.

[ATH!]

Originally posted by Bankai9212:

Originally posted by ATH!:

I dont understand.


What do you mean? Why projection and not a true gorm?

She was the creature you see in her chamber. The form she takes is a projection, you think anyone would talk or listen to her if they knew what she actually looked like.

Ow gosh, I thought you were talking about Tasi. Thank you)

[ATH!]

Originally posted by Tummyache:

Technically speaking, there's never any real confirmation that the baby is sick other than the medical scan and the queen insisting it. Both of those could have just been the queen faking it in order to get the baby for herself.

Also, we don't know what the disease even was that killed the original child. It's assumed to be some kind of hereditary thing, but if it was something like Polio then she might have lived long enough for a vaccine or penicillin to be developed.

Tasi is boned because there probably isn't ever going to be a cure for "becoming a ghoul", but the baby might actually be fine in the escape ending.

Well yea, but there is a huge hint in the ending credits (cant paste the image, but it like the girl is vanishing)

[ATH!]

Originally posted by Donitz:

It also makes no sense that Tasi would need to inject Amari with vitae while still in the womb. The empress could have done it herself.

Yea, really strange