Im out of the loop here

[Klother]

Whats been going on with Capcom and this DRM situation? I haven't been catching up with the pc news lately

[Devsman]

Long story short, Capcom bought some DRM called Enigma, and the Internet, you know, decided to be the Internet.

Supposedly it prevents mods and breaks steam deck, and supposedly neither of those things is true.

Still waiting for the dust to settle.

[Klother]

Originally posted by Devsman:

Long story short, Capcom bought some DRM called Enigma, and the Internet, you know, decided to be the Internet.

Supposedly it prevents mods and breaks steam deck, and supposedly neither of those things is true.

Still waiting for the dust to settle.

Alright, thanks for the reply. I also been seeing people saying that this DRM has malware in it but im not sure if this has been debunked or not so im taking that with a grain of salt

[mdesaleah]

Originally posted by cubeman:

Originally posted by Devsman:

Long story short, Capcom bought some DRM called Enigma, and the Internet, you know, decided to be the Internet.

Supposedly it prevents mods and breaks steam deck, and supposedly neither of those things is true.

Still waiting for the dust to settle.

Alright, thanks for the reply. I also been seeing people saying that this DRM has malware in it but im not sure if this has been debunked or not so im taking that with a grain of salt

According to the internet, everything that inconveniences them is malware xD?

Denuvo? Other storefronts that aren't Steam? Now this?

It's just needless panic and paranoia with no real evidence.

[fabio.capela]

Originally posted by mdesaleah:

Originally posted by cubeman:

Alright, thanks for the reply. I also been seeing people saying that this DRM has malware in it but im not sure if this has been debunked or not so im taking that with a grain of salt

According to the internet, everything that inconveniences them is malware xD?

Denuvo? Other storefronts that aren't Steam? Now this?

It's just needless panic and paranoia with no real evidence.

Some anti-viruses do detect it as malware. Hard to say, though, as the very reason for the existence of this shady Russian anti-tamper thing is to prevent people from, debugging, analyzing, or modifying the game, so we can't be really sure if it's just a false positive or if there's something else going on there.

BTW, I consider modding to be one of the most important features in a game, even if done in an unofficial way; it's the very reason I never buy the console version of a game if a PC version is also available. Thankfully for this game I can disable this piece of crap by just rolling back the update — but it does mean I'm leaving a negative review in every Capcom game that gets it added, including this one, and I'm not buying any more Capcom games for the time being.

[Doresh]

Originally posted by Devsman:

Long story short, Capcom bought some DRM called Enigma, and the Internet, you know, decided to be the Internet.

It probably doesn't help that the company behind the new DRM has neither a name nor an address. That is bound to raise eyebrows at the very least.
I don't think they could've found a shadier DRM provider if they tried.

[Devsman]

Originally posted by Doresh:

Originally posted by Devsman:

Long story short, Capcom bought some DRM called Enigma, and the Internet, you know, decided to be the Internet.

It probably doesn't help that the company behind the new DRM has neither a name nor an address. That is bound to raise eyebrows at the very least.

*shrugs*

Neither do you but I at least refrain from making stuff up about you.

[Hitoshura]

Originally posted by Devsman:

Originally posted by Doresh:

It probably doesn't help that the company behind the new DRM has neither a name nor an address. That is bound to raise eyebrows at the very least.

*shrugs*

Neither do you but I at least refrain from making stuff up about you.

Why are weird DRM apologists genuinely the worst people online?

[Doresh]

That went ad hominem very quickly XD

Originally posted by Devsman:

Neither do you but I at least refrain from making stuff up about you.

And at least I refrain from lowering your FPS and preventing you from using mods in a singleplayer game.
I make no promises that I didn't try, though.

[Devsman]

Originally posted by Doresh:

That went ad hominem very quickly XD

Originally posted by Devsman:

Neither do you but I at least refrain from making stuff up about you.

And at least I refrain from lowering your FPS and preventing you from using mods in a singleplayer game.
I make no promises that I didn't try, though.

You know, that's actually pretty clever.

[mdesaleah]

Originally posted by fabio.capela:

Originally posted by mdesaleah:

According to the internet, everything that inconveniences them is malware xD?

Denuvo? Other storefronts that aren't Steam? Now this?

It's just needless panic and paranoia with no real evidence.

Some anti-viruses do detect it as malware. Hard to say, though, as the very reason for the existence of this shady Russian anti-tamper thing is to prevent people from, debugging, analyzing, or modifying the game, so we can't be really sure if it's just a false positive or if there's something else going on there.

BTW, I consider modding to be one of the most important features in a game, even if done in an unofficial way; it's the very reason I never buy the console version of a game if a PC version is also available. Thankfully for this game I can disable this piece of crap by just rolling back the update — but it does mean I'm leaving a negative review in every Capcom game that gets it added, including this one, and I'm not buying any more Capcom games for the time being.

Even then thats still just rumors.

Cause modding does still work. So its just more exaggeration.

If it actually did stop modding, then it would be a problem.

[Auffie]

Fortunately for literally everyone regardless of what side of this particular kerfluffle you're on, Uninstalling is free for anyone who gets spooked, and Steam has a long-standing refund policy that's been around longer than half the people using it at this point. If you're not sure there's a fairly risk-free way to find out if a new purchase will work for you or not:


Step 1) Buy any games you're interested in as normal, and properly install them.

Step 2) Play them relatively soon after completing Step 1 (you have roughly two weeks of IRL time and 2 hours of gameplay before you stop being eligible for a refund in most cases). Pay attention and see of anything weird happens (bonus points if you use offline mode first and/or try a fresh install complete with restart before moving to Step 3 to make sure any technical difficulties aren't just a botched download, they do happen, no one and nothing is immune to them).

Step 3) Decide for yourself before too much time goes by if anything happened while playing that spooked you or not, if no, enjoy your new game! If yes, uninstall it, refund it, run a scan with your AV for good measure, and enjoy being done with the drama surrounding the game either way because once you get you money back, LITERALLY NOTHING is tempting/obligating you to stay.


Side note before anybody starts trying to throw flak saying "Oh WeLl YoU sTiLl BoUgHt It So tHeY sTiLl GoT yOuR mOnIeS!!", No, they don't get ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Steam LITERALLY WILL NOT PAY THEM FOR THE PURCHASE UNTIL THE CUSTOMER HAS KEPT IT LONG ENOUGH TO BE UNABLE TO REFUND WITHOUT EVIDENCE THAT WOULD HOLD UP IN COURT THAT THE PROGRAM WAS/HAD MALWARE. All they get is a purchase count, and if the company's delusional enough to think they can keep afloat of sales numbers with no actual income alone, they're not long for the world of the free market in the first place lol.

A somewhat recent example of this is when a game called "Digimon Masters Online" changed the Steam version of their app some years back to make purchases for their in-game cash shop non-refundable. Because people were exploiting the policy en-masse to buy thousands of stupidly expensive lootboxes over and over until they got the actually valuable items from them for 50$ total instead of 500k$, then selling them to actually legit players for cheap, the cash-grab/P2W market for the game basically crashed overnight. The game's Staff literally couldn't ban exploiters fast enough to keep up because it was a free-to-play game and making an account only takes a couple minutes, so the bottom-tier developer got pissed at this and effectively said "when you do this the money for all the boxes you refunded your purchases on doesn't show up from Steam, so fk all of you, Steam users can't refund anymore and all the cash shop things they buy are now character bound and un-sellable".