pollination

[beanses]

i cannot find out how to finish the pollination level. every time i try the level i get stuck on the last part. does anybody know how to finish it?

[Wessel]

Hey Ben, thanks for reaching out! The basic idea of the scenario is to:
* Get 2 plant species with the same flower (let's call them A and B)
* Have an animal that eats nectar
* Put them together in such a way that the animals first eat at A and then at B

Does that help? And if not: what did you try already?

[Josh IRONKING]

I had 3 plants all with the same flower, only one animal that only eats nectar, and in 200 years, it didn't work.

[Necroscourge]

Originally posted by Wessel:

Hey Ben, thanks for reaching out! The basic idea of the scenario is to:
* Get 2 plant species with the same flower (let's call them A and B)
* Have an animal that eats nectar
* Put them together in such a way that the animals first eat at A and then at B

Does that help? And if not: what did you try already?

I've tried this scenario multiple times, with a strain of every size nearby. Whatever magical thing is supposed to happen never happens no matter how long you run the simulation.

[Josh IRONKING]

Originally posted by Wessel:

Hey Ben, thanks for reaching out! The basic idea of the scenario is to:
* Get 2 plant species with the same flower (let's call them A and B)
* Have an animal that eats nectar
* Put them together in such a way that the animals first eat at A and then at B

Does that help? And if not: what did you try already?

game is broke

[Wessel]

I just tried this and I can confirm: the final objective does not seem to trigger anymore. A fix will be part of the next patch.

[Josh IRONKING]

Originally posted by Wessel:

I just tried this and I can confirm: the final objective does not seem to trigger anymore. A fix will be part of the next patch.

thank you!

[ImperialFish]

I believe this has gone back to being broken, sitting in the scenario now and the objective is not triggering after many years

[Wessel]

Hey ImperialFish, thanks for reporting! I see others are completing the scenario, but that doesn't rule out the game 'misses' some conditions which should trigger a 'scenario completed' event. Are you by any chance willing to provide a list of steps I can follow, to see if I can reproduce what you describe?

[MeFiu Dywan]

Originally posted by Wessel:

Hey ImperialFish, thanks for reporting! I see others are completing the scenario, but that doesn't rule out the game 'misses' some conditions which should trigger a 'scenario completed' event. Are you by any chance willing to provide a list of steps I can follow, to see if I can reproduce what you describe?

I also have this problem. I create a starting plant, then mutate to get basic flowers (these which use animals, not wind), wait 100 years, then I create a basic animal, then mutate it so I could get a mosquito-like mouth that eats only nectar, then I mutate the plant species with flowers so that it is a different species and put them on the other side of the map, I reintroduce the nectar-eating species to the other side as well, then after I complete every task except for the last one, I bulldoze everything with the invert function, then reintroduce the two species as two lines next to eachother, then add a couple of nectar-eating animals and wait.... and nothing is happening, so I bulldoze everything again and try and put better flowers on them and repeat until the new species actually is bred through animal pollination, even a couple of new plants sometimes, but I never win. I also discovered that two-legged animals are better at pollinating than four-legged, at least in my case. I hope this gives you enough info to figure out the problem.

[Wessel]

Definitely a lot of information, a 14 step plan, thanks so much!

1. I create a starting plant,
2. then mutate to get basic flowers (these which use animals, not wind),
3. wait 100 years,
4. create a basic animal,
5. then mutate it so I could get a mosquito-like mouth that eats only nectar,
6. then I mutate the plant species with flowers so that it is a different species
7. put them on the other side of the map,
8. I reintroduce the nectar-eating species to the other side as well,
9. then after I complete every task except for the last one,
10. I bulldoze everything with the invert function,
11. then reintroduce the two species as two lines next to eachother,
12. then add a couple of nectar-eating animals and wait.... and nothing is happening
13. I bulldoze everything again
14. put better flowers on them and repeat until the new species actually is bred through animal pollination, even a couple of new plants sometimes

Will follow these 14 steps tomorrow and report back.

[Wessel]

Hmm weird, to my own surprise I already beat the level at while trying to achieve step 7. Are you sure the (by the way non functional) final scenario is not available to you? Also, to be sure, do the two plant species you designed (step 2, step 6) share the same type of flower?

[MeFiu Dywan]

Originally posted by Wessel:

Hmm weird, to my own surprise I already beat the level at while trying to achieve step 7. Are you sure the (by the way non functional) final scenario is not available to you? Also, to be sure, do the two plant species you designed (step 2, step 6) share the same type of flower?

I went to the game now, the ice age scenario seems to be locked (text is more gray) but when i clicked on it, the scenario started playing with me being able to create the first plant and introduce it into the world (ground everywhere had 5 softness i think).

[MeFiu Dywan]

Originally posted by Wessel:

Hmm weird, to my own surprise I already beat the level at while trying to achieve step 7. Are you sure the (by the way non functional) final scenario is not available to you? Also, to be sure, do the two plant species you designed (step 2, step 6) share the same type of flower?

I tried the scenario again and actually managed to win it. I put everything closer to eachother, exterminated the basic animal population (they were eating my nectar-eating species) and mutated the plant once more (because the first one was losing with the second).
Now, I think that the bulldoze mechanic or the invert submechanic might have done something to the scenario because earlier I forgot to add that between step 4 and 5 I bulldozed a bit of the ecosystem that was fighting for survival against my nectar-eating species. This run i exterminated it in the species view and didn't use any bulldozing and the scenario finished after around 720 years. I don't know if it is exactly the problem here, I guess it's just a theory. A SPECIES SCENARIO MECHANICS THEORY. Thanks for reading.

[Wessel]

Hey thanks for responding, much appreciated!

Originally posted by MeFiu Dywan:

I went to the game now, the ice age scenario seems to be locked (text is more gray) but when i clicked on it, the scenario started playing with me being able to create the first plant and introduce it into the world (ground everywhere had 5 softness i think).

Wow okay so on top of the problem you already mentioned, either the unlocking mechanism OR the mechanism that displays what you have unlocked is broken :/.

Originally posted by MeFiu Dywan:

I tried the scenario again and actually managed to win it. I put everything closer to eachother, exterminated the basic animal population (they were eating my nectar-eating species) and mutated the plant once more (because the first one was losing with the second).
Now, I think that the bulldoze mechanic or the invert submechanic might have done something to the scenario because earlier I forgot to add that between step 4 and 5 I bulldozed a bit of the ecosystem that was fighting for survival against my nectar-eating species.

Cool, congratulations on beating all scenarios that are currently working! Based on your description, my best guess is that the plants with the correct flowers were also removed accidentally then between step 4 and 5. Let me know if you have another theory, or if you can reproduce NOT winning the scenario with the bulldozing between step 4 and 5.

[MeFiu Dywan]

Originally posted by Wessel:

Hey thanks for responding, much appreciated!

Originally posted by MeFiu Dywan:

I went to the game now, the ice age scenario seems to be locked (text is more gray) but when i clicked on it, the scenario started playing with me being able to create the first plant and introduce it into the world (ground everywhere had 5 softness i think).

Wow okay so on top of the problem you already mentioned, either the unlocking mechanism OR the mechanism that displays what you have unlocked is broken :/.

Originally posted by MeFiu Dywan:

I tried the scenario again and actually managed to win it. I put everything closer to eachother, exterminated the basic animal population (they were eating my nectar-eating species) and mutated the plant once more (because the first one was losing with the second).
Now, I think that the bulldoze mechanic or the invert submechanic might have done something to the scenario because earlier I forgot to add that between step 4 and 5 I bulldozed a bit of the ecosystem that was fighting for survival against my nectar-eating species.

Cool, congratulations on beating all scenarios that are currently working! Based on your description, my best guess is that the plants with the correct flowers were also removed accidentally then between step 4 and 5. Let me know if you have another theory, or if you can reproduce NOT winning the scenario with the bulldozing between step 4 and 5.

I tried two times on an earlier save of a succesful run and one time starting all over again making sure to use bulldozer and invert function at least once before or just after creating the second plant with the same flowers. They never managed to cross-pollinate even when there were hundreds of animals and plants dispersed over the whole map (I waited until 1,5k years because then you just lose).