Marvel's Avengers - The Definitive Edition

Marvel's Avengers - The Definitive Edition

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Spamwagon Feb 13, 2020 @ 3:45pm
Miss Marvel?! Why?!
Kamala Khan sucks.

Her current comic only sells about 20,000 comics a month and is #105 on the list of top selling comics.

In the 80's, if a comic book dropped below 75,000 copies a month, they canceled it outright.
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Dr. Jester Feb 13, 2020 @ 7:26pm 
Originally posted by Grimwear:
Originally posted by ChaotixLogic:

Damn, way to ruin his BS so brutally.

I mean I don't have a horse in this race but I was intrigued by these conflicting reports so I did some digging and surprise both sides are correct. Now from what I've read single issue sales are more important to publishers so while Ms. Marvel has sold 500,000 the individual issue sales are more highly prioritized. More importantly from that same article posted the most sales that were done volume wise were volume 1, which was published in 2014, meaning that her popularity has decreased rather than increased which isn't a great sign.

Finally lets look at single issue numbers.

https://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales.html

There we can search by month and I went through the past 5 months. Ms. Marvel's popularity sits at around 160 in monthly sales and moves roughly 13 thousand units. Compared to the top slots like X-Men which sell above 100 thousand or even 200 thousand her sales are abysmal. For comparison I found mention of a number of cancelled comics due to poor sales from early 2018. Iceman was selling around 10 thousand, Luke Cage 8.5 thousand, and Gwenpool 13 thousand. I can only assume that having Ms. Marvel added to this game is an attempt to increase her popularity and increase single issue sales and should that fail her current sales figures put her very near the cut off point for cancellation.

When it is political and one has to follow the narrative, it won't get cancelled so easily. And, considering how they are going over and over the "diversity" like that, chances are, especially with "islam" being the center piece here, that they won't cancel it. Unless it dips even lower.

But, what I hate the most is when they start playing fast and loose with words to pad the bad numbers, like hiding comparison numbers, positions, timeframes and even embezzling the numbers. For instance, "half a million" sounds prettier and higher than 500,000 sales, even if they mean EXACTLY the same thing. Another example of number padding to distract and make it seem lower than it really is, is when they use/add X.99 at the end of a price. $2.99, is nearly the same as $3, with one single cent in difference... But, it fools enough people, and makes your brain feel better than you are getting a better deal.

Igris Feb 13, 2020 @ 7:48pm 
I agree , there are far better Marvel characters that could've taken her spot
Ryan Gobling Feb 13, 2020 @ 7:49pm 
Originally posted by northowlman:
Tbh 20K sales is a lot for something so mediocre. Who the hell reads that stuff? Or comics at all while we're at it.
bruh lots of people still read comics. they just don't read dumb sjw comics
Wreck Enfoiré Feb 13, 2020 @ 7:56pm 
Unless I'm mistaken, Comichron only tracks what the stores have ordered. In reality, she could actually be selling even less. :winter2019joyfultearsyul:
Rieve Nailo Feb 13, 2020 @ 8:01pm 
I think they changed her name to Token Brown for this game
Crimson Ghost Feb 13, 2020 @ 8:06pm 
Originally posted by Wonders Of Socialism:
Unless I'm mistaken, Comichron only tracks what the stores have ordered. In reality, she could actually be selling even less. :winter2019joyfultearsyul:
You're not wrong. Additionally Marvel has a habit of forcing larger numbers onto comic stores to inflate their sales numbers. Its why a lot of comic stores intentionally underwrite how many they need or die from inflation of overstock no one wants.
MT Feb 13, 2020 @ 8:27pm 
Just confirming what's been said above. About those sales numbers...Marvel will count copies sent to comic book stores as actual sales, and does not represent the actual number of sales by the comic stores. Basically, don't believe the hype.
takes_reign Feb 13, 2020 @ 8:38pm 
Originally posted by Spamwagon:
Kamala Khan sucks.

Her current comic only sells about 20,000 comics a month and is #105 on the list of top selling comics.

In the 80's, if a comic book dropped below 75,000 copies a month, they canceled it outright.
It's not the 80's anymore.
i feel like i'm the only one who doesn't care which characters is the game
i love Marvel always has always will and superheroes for that matter,

I'm just happy to get a Superhero game with co-op!
EinTheCorgi Feb 13, 2020 @ 8:44pm 
tbh the game looks pretty meh thor looks like a p0rn star from the 60s capt looks like a bad cod skin and iron man looks like a cheap chinese knock off. only hulk dosn't look weird. games going to flop and you can quote me on that.
roopesh.r.80 Feb 13, 2020 @ 8:57pm 
She's nowehere in the movie, her comics are barely selling and she's not an interesting character.....She's only here because Marvel wants to pander to a certain section of society
jchaosmaster Feb 13, 2020 @ 9:26pm 
I think it's because her creator was put in charge of Marvel comic's. That the same reason she is going to be first to get her own TV show. So most likely in their she forced in as part of contract where she is made a main character or NO game. I mean honestly why wouldn't they put in Hawk Eye before put her in.
takes_reign Feb 13, 2020 @ 10:02pm 
Originally posted by »' Just GirlPower | Nana♥:
i feel like i'm the only one who doesn't care which characters is the game
i love Marvel always has always will and superheroes for that matter,

I'm just happy to get a Superhero game with co-op!
There will be few such persons to be sure. Most have a few characters they favour over others and would like to see those added eventually if they aren't part of the initial line-up.

None of the characters presented here aren't of great interest to me, at least in the manner in which they are presented. I would prefer a much more classic interpretation of them. Then again, my first comic book had a cover price of 12 cents and much of what could be said about comics then has fallen by the wayside over the years.

Ultimately, what I'd really like to do is customize my own character and play that in the Marvel Universe, but I doubt that game will be coming out any time soon, so this one may have to do, depending on the requirements to run it. From the videos, I may have to give it a pass.
Last edited by takes_reign; Feb 13, 2020 @ 10:02pm
mhenryblack Feb 13, 2020 @ 10:07pm 
Ms. Marvel is boring. You are being disingenuous is you pretend than there aren't dozens of more popular Marvel Heroes who fans would rather see in a game like this.

Also the Bleeding cool article about the "500k" trade paper sales is misleading, the bulk of those were sold to public libraries, not readers. The decision to buy the books was an entirely demographic one, not based on actual demand.

The game looks... average. Nothing about it makes me want to buy it at any point higher than a 75% sale... and maybe not even then.
Drilbit Feb 13, 2020 @ 10:18pm 
Tbh I dont mind the character as long as shes fun to play, i use her a ton in Ultimate alliance 3 and i never heard of the character before.
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