Marvel’s Avengers |《漫威复仇者》终极版

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Eligor 2021 年 2 月 24 日 下午 2:47
Anthem 2.0 cancelled. How long for MA?
Honestly, I don't think this game will live 2 years like anthem.

What do you think?

Let's the storm begin!

(I'm on ps4)
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The Macchio 2021 年 2 月 26 日 下午 6:42 
As bad as MA's post launch support has been, it's still better than what Anthem got in it's entire lifetime. Avengers will always be a better game than Anthem.
Konel 2021 年 2 月 27 日 上午 1:34 
Anthem was a IP owned straight out. Marvel Avengers is a licensed game. This changes how you handle cancelling things. You're paying a fee to just have the right to make the game. That fee has to be paid based on the deal to when paying it. As long as they hold the license this will survive. Support might just end no doubt. However this will be up till SE loses the license for Marvel Avengers.
Rodrigo 2021 年 2 月 27 日 上午 1:42 
引用自 Captain Worthy
引用自 Captein

You are being too optimistic, despite the flaws anthem even had a better launch than MA, that game never had a chance because of EA. But that's not to say It wasn't a bad product.

I really doubt MA will see anything like new stuff after what's contractually obligated is delivered, KB release didn't do anything to help this game out and so won't Hawkeye or spidey... With the current playerbase and the plummet of this cancerous live service model, I can only see this game dying for good soon enough.

You're just believing someone else's spin if you think Anthem had a better launch than MA. Bricking consoles is a step worse than the game crashing occasionally.

https://www.windowscentral.com/list-anthem-known-bugs-and-launch-issues

It did sell more copies and had a smaller budget, thus financially it was more successful. But like MA, Anthem also sold less than expected and the negative press probably made its playerbase drop fast, leading to the decision to cancel the 2.0 rework in the end as it would have required a massive effort and investment. EA decided to rather settle for their profits instead of gambling with them.

MA's issues aren't as bad as Anthem's though, fixing this game won't take the kind of investment Anthem 2.0 needed. The next-gen release of MA has a launch date for next month and the game is already going to have more post launch content in 2021 than Anthem ever got.

oh yea, should have mentioned, comercially speaking, with that said we gotta consider what investors are thinking about it. MA is working on negative numbers, while evil EA, even though anthem more or less paid itself, decided to shut it down so to not waste more money, though 2.0 was at least considered and some resources were at least alocated to it, a luxury i doubt MA will have.
Captain Worthy 2021 年 2 月 27 日 上午 1:45 
引用自 Konel
Anthem was a IP owned straight out. Marvel Avengers is a licensed game. This changes how you handle cancelling things. You're paying a fee to just have the right to make the game. That fee has to be paid based on the deal to when paying it. As long as they hold the license this will survive. Support might just end no doubt. However this will be up till SE loses the license for Marvel Avengers.

Yeah, the game is mostly hosted by clients, it doesn't have massive upkeep costs for SE at all like a MMO would. We'll get at least a full year of expansions and the rest will be up to the sales the improved game generates, with the MTX sales helping too.

Captain Worthy 2021 年 2 月 27 日 上午 1:55 
引用自 Captein
引用自 Captain Worthy

You're just believing someone else's spin if you think Anthem had a better launch than MA. Bricking consoles is a step worse than the game crashing occasionally.

https://www.windowscentral.com/list-anthem-known-bugs-and-launch-issues

It did sell more copies and had a smaller budget, thus financially it was more successful. But like MA, Anthem also sold less than expected and the negative press probably made its playerbase drop fast, leading to the decision to cancel the 2.0 rework in the end as it would have required a massive effort and investment. EA decided to rather settle for their profits instead of gambling with them.

MA's issues aren't as bad as Anthem's though, fixing this game won't take the kind of investment Anthem 2.0 needed. The next-gen release of MA has a launch date for next month and the game is already going to have more post launch content in 2021 than Anthem ever got.

oh yea, should have mentioned, comercially speaking, with that said we gotta consider what investors are thinking about it. MA is working on negative numbers, while evil EA, even though anthem more or less paid itself, decided to shut it down so to not waste more money, though 2.0 was at least considered and some resources were at least alocated to it, a luxury i doubt MA will have.

The loss from the launch has been recouped already, SE's HD Games department has been making profit since December. They'll likely take a hit to their profits from Outriders for a while though, due to delaying its launch as well.
Kobi Blade 2021 年 3 月 2 日 上午 10:26 
Anthem is not dead nor it was shutdown, the servers are still online.

Content updates that were canceled and the game will be as is, which is a shame, the game is a constant grind not unlike this crap I had the decency to refund.
Rodrigo 2021 年 3 月 2 日 上午 10:42 
引用自 Kobi Blade
Anthem is not dead nor it was shutdown, the servers are still online.

Content updates that were canceled and the game will be as is, which is a shame, the game is a constant grind not unlike this crap I had the decency to refund.

you realize thats tantamount as to be dead right? the game is unfinished, unbalanced, unpolished, people were only playing because of 2.0, now the last nail is already in the coffin, to continue playing is just wasting time, and a piss poor attempt by EA to avoid even further backlash. It's dead, perhaps unceremonially, but it's dead.
Draknalor 2021 年 3 月 2 日 上午 10:44 
引用自 Captain Worthy
Anthem did launch in a worse state than MA,

I don't think so, I could play and enjoy anthem with very little issues,

While MA crashes every few minutes.. making it very Not fun to play.

The reason i dropped anthem was because i read on anthem reddit about how bad and un-rewarding the end game loot was.. and i did not feel like continuing to play it if that was the case.

But at least i could play anthem if i wanted to, while in MA you can't play it at all.
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Avalanche 2021 年 3 月 2 日 上午 11:47 
引用自 Draknalor
引用自 Captain Worthy
Anthem did launch in a worse state than MA,

I don't think so, I could play and enjoy anthem with very little issues,

While MA crashes every few minutes.. making it very Not fun to play.

The reason i dropped anthem was because i read on anthem reddit about how bad and un-rewarding the end game loot was.. and i did not feel like continuing to play it if that was the case.

But at least i could play anthem if i wanted to, while in MA you can't play it at all.

Actually, from experience, with Marvel Avengers, the only problems i encountered were glitches, 1 was when Kamala Khan had to kick on a lever on a ladder, in fact, the first ladder you need to use....it just froze, not the game, just the animation of Kamala, i just had to reload a checkpoint, which was just a few seconds away and then the second glitch was in the HARM training mission, where i had to defeat enemies affected by a status effect and the status was not being applied....i just to reload a checkpoint for that also.

Anthem however, i was getting crashes, disconnects randomly, but often when doing missions and since i HAD to go open play for those, it was likely a server based issue, since i played the campaign in closed mode and only got this disconnect in open play.

So, in my experience, when i played Avengers, granted it was 4 months or so later, it was better than Anthem in the stability department.
BOWSER 2021 年 3 月 2 日 下午 1:29 
Bioware shutdown Anthem to focus on Dragon Age and Mass Effect, I completely agree with that choice. I thought the Anthem project would be a new Mass Effect game but it wasn't so I never played it.

In this situation, Nixxes has announced a new Tomb Raider project I believe but has also announced MA is still an on going game. I think it's going to continue like that if the dev is confident enough to not announce a cancellation by now given the circumstances.
Goose 2021 年 3 月 2 日 下午 1:41 
I think they should do one big DLC before closing down to try and get it going again. like a follow up story that could fix some things by adding in real co-op and some better and new boss battles and all that. The issue with anthem was that it was all boring and dull, this games issue is the game as a service stuff they have for the post game content is boring and dull
引用自 Eligor<q
Honestly, I don't think this game will live 2 years like anthem.
(I'm on ps4)


... Wasn't Anthem like.... dead on launch? What two years?
Atomsk 2021 年 3 月 3 日 上午 2:49 
引用自 Captain Worthy
Anthem did launch in a worse state than MA, even bricking consoles and having the issues of gear not working at all or being of lesser power than the starting weapon for example. It also had even longer loading times, which were so excessive that timed missions could end before you even got to that location.

While MA launched in a bad state as well, it doesn't have as massive design flaws with the biggest issue being lack of different enemy factions really. New biome types are already being introduced for increased mission variety, and the prior expansion showed us the devs can add variety to the usual objective fights too.

New enemy factions might appear in future "seasons", it's just taking a long while to get there as we slog through this one with new chapters being released every few months.

I just wanted to add, about "even longer loading times", just look at my post on the technical issues. I played anthem until endgame, the only real problem that game had (at least on pc) was the lack of content post story. It's true they added almost nothing since release, just one or two events and a dungeon, but at least they fixed some bugs.

This...game, well, I can't belive it but they have actually made it WORSE as the months pass, loading times from 20-30 seconds when the game was released to 4-5 minutes after Bishop was released, enemies and characters stuttering even more, teleporting everywhere (and I mean in single player, it has nothing to do with lag).

They f*cked up, they obviously don't care because they expected to launch an unfinished turd with the excuse of "game as service" and people are fed up with that. You like the game? Great, I won't detract you from playing it, but for your own good, don't except them to fix or make a "2.0" version. As others said, it's the second archer, then spiderman on ps4, and they will announce development halt.
The Macchio 2021 年 3 月 3 日 上午 3:07 
It's their own fault for being so slow to add content , features and bug fixes.
Captain Worthy 2021 年 3 月 3 日 上午 4:26 
引用自 Draknalor
引用自 Captain Worthy
Anthem did launch in a worse state than MA,

I don't think so, I could play and enjoy anthem with very little issues,

While MA crashes every few minutes.. making it very Not fun to play.

The reason i dropped anthem was because i read on anthem reddit about how bad and un-rewarding the end game loot was.. and i did not feel like continuing to play it if that was the case.

But at least i could play anthem if i wanted to, while in MA you can't play it at all.

Lower the graphics settings and the game will stop crashing on your PC. It's that simple. After I switched from TAA to SMAA, I could set everything else to max settings except the Intel enhanced features without getting a single crash despite playing hours on end on my old GTX 1070.

You are also wrong about Anthem, objectively speaking it launched in a worse state and just like MA(right now Challenge levels 3 and 4 are locked for everyone in MA) it received new bugs with the patches which broke the entire game for a while.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.polygon.com/platform/amp/gaming/2019/5/7/18514310/anthem-bugs-delays-development-issues-bioware

https://www.windowscentral.com/list-anthem-known-bugs-and-launch-issues?amp

Do not believe some trolls who say MA is even worse than Anthem, because it isn't. Both games had rocky starts but Anthem's was even rockier. It received less content updates too.
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