Marvel's Avengers - The Definitive Edition

Marvel's Avengers - The Definitive Edition

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drakeef Jun 24, 2021 @ 1:06pm
How to solo Monica?
So far tried both Ms. Marvel and Thor and no luck getting enough damage in. In Ms. Marvel's case, I think its because I'm trying to go for the 'team spirit build' while Thor is a valor build. Not sure if I'll have more luck with Iron Man since he is my best range build I got so far.
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Marth Jun 24, 2021 @ 2:46pm 
im not sure its possible yet
Andrew Jun 24, 2021 @ 5:56pm 
Natasha with triple widow's bite is one of the best methods to win.
Captain Worthy Jun 24, 2021 @ 6:12pm 
I just threw my mighty shield and that made her yield.
BOWSER Jun 24, 2021 @ 6:19pm 
It's barely possible with 104 Precision using Ms. Marvel. I went through 4 of the explosion phases. The first was successful but I failed the 2nd and 3rd time so it was either me or her during the 4th phase. I had a x10 damage multiplier in each phase except the 2nd which was at x7.

On the 3rd and 4th phases, you can see I rediscovered the headshot damage bonus. Headshots are usually not important, but Monica is just floating there motionless and you need the extra damage. It's the perfect opportunity for headshots.

I also stood close to Monica to reduce the distance Ms. Marvel's arm had to travel resulting in slightly faster "reloads". That's why I'm not standing next to a pillar.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2526524956
CheeseWhiskers Jun 24, 2021 @ 6:34pm 
Hawkeye and spam her
ele Jun 24, 2021 @ 8:19pm 
It's badly designed for sure. With a max rating hulk and using the 10 stack damage buff from killing clones, the AI companions barely do any damage during the burn phases. I assume you need to play a ranged character and do it all yourself which is kinda dumb.
Last edited by ele; Jun 24, 2021 @ 8:21pm
drakeef Jun 24, 2021 @ 9:17pm 
So this fight is either made purely for multi player or the devs need to re balance it? Given the issue with player number you think they would have made it balanced for both styles of play
Captain Worthy Jun 25, 2021 @ 12:06am 
Originally posted by drakeef:
So this fight is either made purely for multi player or the devs need to re balance it? Given the issue with player number you think they would have made it balanced for both styles of play

Idk what people are doing wrong, I don't even have full Exotic builds and completed the fight with AI companions just fine, only losing one star due to not being behind a pillar once when she did her blast.

Just aim for her head when she is vulnerable.
Makimera Jun 25, 2021 @ 1:31am 
I just gave up on it, even my companions just stood in the open taking the shockwave and all died.
Boodendorf Jun 25, 2021 @ 2:38am 
Stack buffs, that's it really.
Savager Jun 25, 2021 @ 4:25am 
Iron man over 2k ranged rocket dmg, she goes down solo like any normal adaptoid lol.
BOWSER Jun 25, 2021 @ 5:35am 
Alright. People who are still contemplating how to fight Scientist Supreme or have the mindset that heroes are melee/range only should keep in mind there are better range abilities for some, but every hero has melee/range attacks that can be enhanced to do more damage by adjusting stats. My first example was Ms. Marvel. My 2nd example is the Hulk. Both considered Melee focused characters.

My attempts yesterday with the Hulk involved a melee build +200 Might / 43 Precision. I failed to beat her 6 times. This time, I equipped Hulk with Precision in each gear slot. His total Precision now is 288. The difference is apparent, Hulk made the boss fight look simple. No deaths when properly equipped. Full fight this time.

A.I. Team:
Lvl 50 Kate - 398 Precision
Lvl 50 Iron Man - 259 Precision
Lvl 14 Hawkeye - Obviously really low precision

I mentioned my team because the A.I. is capable of contributing. I missed a few shots in the first phase but still met the damage threshold to stop her. I'd have to assume the A.I. helped with that even if Hulk did the majority of the damage. 2nd phase ended quick with two 45k damage shots. 3rd phase ended after three 15k shots, meaning the A.I. helped a lot. If I had to guess, the damage threshold to stop Monica's one-shot explosion is ~100,000 damage.

Something else I noticed. The A.I. are more effective when you take initiative. Meaning, take the first shot if you want the A.I. to be more active even if they are capable of fighting on their own.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2526923131
Last edited by BOWSER; Jun 25, 2021 @ 6:01am
The Macchio Jun 25, 2021 @ 7:54am 
It's completely possible solo, but you need to have good ranged damage to be able to stop Monica from wiping the team/destroying all the pillars. It's silly how melee characters really have no hope of finishing the mission.
Boodendorf Jun 25, 2021 @ 8:31am 
https://youtu.be/z1xv8D-PM64

0 Precision, 300ish valor solo black widow kill.

Stack buffs (disruption matrix, damage buff, tachyon surge, and any hero specific ability that boosts your damage) and it's enough.
drakeef Jun 25, 2021 @ 8:53am 
I think I see part of my problem, my Kate and Clint are probably under developed and I've been using mainly melee builds for the other two (even my widow is melee based) so probably need to up their power levels and character levels and get some precision or valor based gear for widow.

This is referring to my PS4 characters, have not tried with my steam versions yet, though would probably have a little more luck with the steam team since Kate and Clint are much more developed so that alone would probably help.
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Date Posted: Jun 24, 2021 @ 1:06pm
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