Monica's New Battle

[ChoiGui]

Anyone having problems fighting Monica? When her shield is down and you have to strike, she charge her powers. I'm having problems here, she always kill all the 4 players, I don't know what I need to do

[Xarko]

Originally posted by Andrew:

Originally posted by filipe:

It favors MP I think. Melee Mains could focus on the Clones while Ranged tries to do as much as damadge to her as possible once the window opens. In my experience, the AI is pretty competent at targetting her as well, but I heard some people saying this is not the case for them. The problem with this on Single Player, to me, it's just the AI doesn't really know how to hide, so they are always killed by the waves. It looks quite ridiculous. BUT, I like this system going foward, with a few more of them we can probably have variety enough to target many types of builds and playstyles.

I run with Natasha almost exclusively. I like this boss fight, but it is not challenging enough for her since she is a hybrid of Melee/Range. I have Widow's Bite set to triple cast; it does so much damage with 3 stacked, my companions never go down from her charged build up. Damage drains her potency.

The solution for Hulk players is to boost the hawkeye(s) so that their ranged attacks are potent for solo play. Once you can do a certain, combined, threshold of damage, running for cover will become unnecessary.

Nice and all, but no self-respecting Hulk player should rely on puny human to do damage for him!

[Andrew]

Originally posted by Xarko:

Nice and all, but no self-respecting Hulk player should rely on puny human to do damage for him!

Thunder Clap and get to the edge of the pit and do the spam PBAoE ground smashing damage. If you have your Heroic Orb drops set up correctly, you will be able to charge thunder clap reliably (or cosmic surge on an ISO-8).

If you can do enough damage, she cannot down you.

[Xarko]

Did try that of course. Wasn't enough sadly, but I'm gonna need to do some more testing. She turned out be quite resilient against clap which normaly does hundereds of thousands of damage.

I gave up on Hulk quite rapidly realizing the fight will probably be piece of cake with a ranged character.

[Andrew]

Originally posted by Xarko:

Did try that of course. Wasn't enough sadly, but I'm gonna need to do some more testing. She turned out be quite resilient against clap which normaly does hundereds of thousands of damage.

Perk: Ranged Power attacks grant invulnerability.

This perk will allow you to just stand there and toss rocks. The perk last 6 seconds, enough time to endure Monica's charged build up.

[Xarko]

Originally posted by Andrew:

Originally posted by Xarko:

Did try that of course. Wasn't enough sadly, but I'm gonna need to do some more testing. She turned out be quite resilient against clap which normaly does hundereds of thousands of damage.

Perk: Ranged Power attacks grant invulnerability.

This perk will allow you to just stand there and toss rocks. The perk last 6 seconds, enough time to endure Monica's charged build up.

Good tip. I'm not nearly enough of a try-hard to go hunting for that sh*t just because of a single boss fight, but good job, that might work.

[Andrew]

Originally posted by Xarko:

Originally posted by Andrew:

Perk: Ranged Power attacks grant invulnerability.

This perk will allow you to just stand there and toss rocks. The perk last 6 seconds, enough time to endure Monica's charged build up.

Good tip. I'm not nearly enough of a try-hard to go hunting for that sh*t just because of a single boss fight, but good job, that might work.

Actually, this perk will work for any boss fight or any fight that requires a charge over a 6 second distance to foes that have range. It is a slight play-style alteration with opening all major fights with a Ranged Power attack when you need to close in on distance. You will be invulnerable so nothing can stop you or interrupt your alpha burst of damage.

[filipe]

Originally posted by Xarko:

Originally posted by Andrew:

I run with Natasha almost exclusively. I like this boss fight, but it is not challenging enough for her since she is a hybrid of Melee/Range. I have Widow's Bite set to triple cast; it does so much damage with 3 stacked, my companions never go down from her charged build up. Damage drains her potency.

The solution for Hulk players is to boost the hawkeye(s) so that their ranged attacks are potent for solo play. Once you can do a certain, combined, threshold of damage, running for cover will become unnecessary.

Nice and all, but no self-respecting Hulk player should rely on puny human to do damage for him!

lol true.

I heard Widow is pretty good at this battle with Widow Bite. I play as Thor and got a good deal of damadge with his attack heroic as well. Hulk is my least played character so I don't know much about him. I assume his Thunderclap heroic doesn't have the range to reach Monica?

[Andrew]

Originally posted by filipe:

lol true.

I heard Widow is pretty good at this battle with Widow Bite. I play as Thor and got a good deal of damadge with his attack heroic as well. Hulk is my least played character so I don't know much about him. I assume his Thunderclap heroic doesn't have the range to reach Monica?

It does, she is merely resistant to it.

Yes, Natasha is awesome with this... Powersurge when on the minions to charge up Widow's Bite. And Widow's Bite on Monica when she is vulnerable. Due to Cosmic Surge perk, either Heroic is fully charged when Natasha has need of it.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2512584178

[CheeseWhiskers]

Originally posted by Xarko:

It will sure be easier in MP than solo. Bots do target her pretty well, but they do nowhere near enough damage to her. I just couldn't finish the fight on my Hulk. Then I tried it on IM and erased her easily. Maybe it's just Hulk problem. Cap has great ranged dmg even fully melee focused so it might be ok on others, dunno yet.

Nah, not a hulk thing. Thor got trashed bc ai is ad! They tried to make it different from typical things we grind by using range and Kate and Hawk along w ai that can’t be controlled and just stand there and get wiped.

Nice attempt but a swing and a miss for me. I’ve beat it several times and really have no desire to do it anymore.

[Martoq]

This fight is so unfair for solo play. AI doesn't even try to get to cover and I hate the one shot ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ attack. Needs to be tuned down and AI needs to head to cover. Also more heads up she is about too unleash to give more time to get to cover.

[filipe]

Originally posted by Martoq:

This fight is so unfair for solo play. AI doesn't even try to get to cover and I hate the one shot ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ attack. Needs to be tuned down and AI needs to head to cover. Also more heads up she is about too unleash to give more time to get to cover.

Not sure if you noticed, but there’s a countdown at the bottom of the screen warning you about the blast, along with Roy’s voiceover and the visual effects. The AI is incompetent at hiding but maybe your characters need more power to help you on the fight? Monica doesn’t one-shot anyone if you manage to do enough damadge to her when her shield is down. Try using your attack heroics at her, that usually does the trick.

[Xarko]

Originally posted by Andrew:

Originally posted by Xarko:

Good tip. I'm not nearly enough of a try-hard to go hunting for that sh*t just because of a single boss fight, but good job, that might work.

Actually, this perk will work for any boss fight or any fight that requires a charge over a 6 second distance to foes that have range. It is a slight play-style alteration with opening all major fights with a Ranged Power attack when you need to close in on distance. You will be invulnerable so nothing can stop you or interrupt your alpha burst of damage.

Well I mean technically you are right, but I don't need it for any other fight, so why bother.

[FireMessiah]

Tried this on my Thor, which anyone who plays with me will know is a GODBUILD and i got totally frustrated with it, several times.
I did notice on the intro scene at the Helicarrier, there was no Hulk, Thor or Kamala around the table. Perhaps this is the devs way of telling us Melee characters would be useless lol.

Edit - Completed after using blackwidow, with a team of hawkeye, kate, and cap.
and loot was salvaged because awful.

[stash123]

Find a good team and watch what they do. There are some youtube videos I made on how to beat her solo, but team play is best for this mission

[admiral.lols]

as an Ironman, who is only moderately build (heroic, and ranged over 2k) I thought the fight was fairly easy