Kamala Khan killed this game.

[robovader]

Had it been any of the classic Avengers starring the game, I would have bought it. But not with Kamala in a million years. And I can't be the only one.

[Captain Worthy]

Originally posted by Id:

Originally posted by Captain Worthy:

And she was chosen well. There is no other Marvel character who represents us all who got into Marvel comics as kids, as well as Kamala does.

Represents US? WHO IS US? I don't feel represented by a little girl with wack powers who is also a stalker

Regardless of whether you appreciate it or not, if you got into Marvel comics as a kid then Kamala represents you as well. It's just an objective truth based on how she was written.

[Boss Baby]

Having a campaign centered around her made it the most boring story content in the game. She has Captain Marvel tier character development where by the end of the story she never had to change herself for the better or make mistakes then have to double down in the face of adversity. She just acts insecure, then finds out the power was within her all along and punches the big robot. I liked the expansion content a lot more since you just meet a new character in the Marvel universe and do a few missions with them. The writers clearly punched above their weight when they tried to make a Tomb Raider quality campaign.

[Faolchu]

Originally posted by Captain Worthy:

Originally posted by drakeef:

You do know her main role story wise is to be the reason the group reforms after A-Day right? Its not that she is the star, she is just the plot devise to get the team back together. Could they have used a different character? Yes, but Kamala was the one chosen for that role.

And she was chosen well. There is no other Marvel character who represents us all who got into Marvel comics as kids, as well as Kamala does.

Speak for yourself. For others it was Wolverine and others and not the cringe of Kamala Khan.

[ØGThor]

Originally posted by lefty1117:

Originally posted by alex33x:

The have for Kamala Khan is not a trend. People keep saying, that Kamala Khan, is universally hated for being a minority, but its not true, Marvel has had minorities as super heroes since the 1960's.

Then people keep saying, oh but nobody cares about playing with white super heroes, which is not the case either. The point is, they did not make an original character, they took the name of an already popular character, race swapped her, then promoted Carol Danvers to Captain Marvel because of feminism and social justice.

Because Captain America, Vision, Thor, Hawkeye and Hulk are the original Avengers and have always been part of the core avengers, Not introduced, for virtue signaling, like Kamala Khan, Mike Morales, America Chavez. Robbie Reyes, Iron Heart or Carol Danvers Captain Marvel. I'm fine with Danvers as Miss Marvel in fact she was amazing as Miss Marvel, who she has been since the 60's. I will never be fine with token characters, look at what happened with the newest Marvel creation, New Warriors, I dont think they even made it to comic no.1 before it was cancelled.

I wouldn't mind playing as Storm, Blade, NIck Fury, Cloak, War Machine, Black Panther, Blue Marvel, Luke Cage, or Goliath for example, they are and have always been part of the Marvel Universe and have been in the Avengers at some point. But I am not ok, with the Disney virtue signaling, race or gender swapping, to advance an SJW agenda.

Like I said Marvel has plenty of colored heroes of every gender, race and every walk of life. There's no need to ruin 60 years or lore and mythos, to advance an identity politics agenda, with fake wokeness.

DC is just making a killing in the comics industry with their own back to basics approach, except for heroes still fighting other heroes in some form; with stories like DC Rebirth, Doomsday Clock, and the rocking Dark Knight Metal storylines. Of course TV shows, such as Batwoman and the birds of prey movie, shows how an SJW agenda can turn into a dumpster fire.

The secret? A lack of politics in their stories, heroes fighting bad guys, solving mysteries, saving the day, providing readers with true "escapism" which is the whole point of comic books, games and movies. Marvel, however, decided to provide readers with a window into the world of political correctness and identity politics. However, Marvel is tanking right now with blow after blow rocking their organizational structure due to lackluster comic book sales and some controversies along the way.

What has Marvel Done? they decided to turn Thor into a woman, negating the appeal that Chris Hemsworth has with the ladies. Give the mantle of Captain America to Falcon. There’s also the controversial decision to replace Tony Stark with black female teen Riri Williams who did not have a compelling backstory. She replicates Tony’s armor, tries it out on some bad guys and voila, a replacement for Iron Man because of—diversity. Let’s also turn Hulk into a woman because Korean Amadeus Cho Hulk doesn’t seem to be working. Let’s give Jennifer Walters, the Sensational She-Hulk, PTSD that turns her into a more monstrous version. It’s quite interesting for sure, but nothing seemed to come out of it. Another feminine push was replacing Logan Wolverine with Laura Kinney (X-23) Wolverine. Also for some reason, someone at Marvel really wants Peter Parker dead and replace him with black Latino Miles Morales. But do they really want to lose the Great Power Great Responsibility tagline? Aside from an actual Savage She-Hulk, another positive note is Latino Robbie Reyes as Ghost Rider who turned out quite awesome.

As an older reader knowing Iceman to be playboy straight, I find it quite jarring if just for the sake of representation. Marvel could have gone to market already known gay characters like Northstar or Hulkling as premiere characters instead. Some, however, say that gay Iceman was as poorly written as lesbian Latina hero America Chavez which actually damaged Marvel’s push for representation. These characters did not represent gay people properly. America Chavez was said to be written as a childish racist brat who is the opposite of a proper role model for readers; unless that was what the writer intended.

Don't even get me started on the MCU phase 4, Disney created an amazing universe, just to completely destroy it, the same as they did with Star Wars.

Another thing to note, is Kamala Khan, is pretty much a copy of Reed Richards Mr. Fantastic, whose powers have never appealed to me. You'd think if they were going to rob Carol Danvers of the mantle of Miss Marvel, they would at least thought of a great character with amazing powers.

I think you're missing an important point with most of your complaints which is that, these are old characters that have been around since the 60s or longer, and they're running out of stories to tell. Bringing in fresh faces and different races not only makes them appealing to a wider part of the world, but also gives new perspectives and new stories to tell based on the things people of different race and background go through.

I remember being all high and mighty against Miles replacing Peter when I was younger, but at this point the Peter stories have been told, and he's kinda boring now especially in the comics - though the 40-something portrayal in Into the Spider-Verse was a fresh take. But I find Miles to be refreshing and his stories are set in a believable modern context, and in my opinion provides some much needed learning and empathy for different people that the world can most definitely use over these past few years. Same with Kamala. And to be real about it, these updated characters are not aimed at white people, but we can benefit greatly from some understanding.

My fellow white people need to chill and let some other folks have a moment. Might actually learn something.

Originally posted by Captain Worthy:

Originally posted by alex33x:

Originally it this was supposed to be Spiderman, not Kamala Khan. After the whole Sony debacle she was included basically just as a token character. She serves no purpose to the story.

This is pure BS, the plot with the Terrigen incident and Inhuman persecution always required an Inhuman character for the game. Kamala also represents us Marvel fans the best, and makes the entire story way more relatable as a result of that. She is every kid who ever dreamt of superpowers and superhero adventures. Her voice, when she brings the Avengers back together, is our voice. Avengers assemble, is the call.

OMG Captain Worthy I forgot you are the Knight in Shining armor Crystal Dynamics, you just make me cringe so much. No Kamala does not represent any Marvel Fan, Maybe woke idiot leftist but not the majority she is universally hated.

I grew up in a foreign country, thousands of miles away from the US. Yet I still read comics books both DC and Marvel, not once did I with oh I wish this heroes looked more like me. These heroes are not like me, I am Hispanic, a minority, naturalized citizen of the United States not born here. Which is why I'm grateful, to be here, unlike most people of "color" born and raised in the United States who take everything for granted, and are not grateful with the freedoms granted by the United States. I would like to see all these democrats and liberals last 1 month in a socialist country like the one I come from.

All comic book sales have been in a slump, with barely any sales. On the other hand, Manga who cares not for wokeness or political correctness, sells like hot cakes. political correctness is what is affecting sales, and has been for many years. Just look at the latest outings from Marvel which got cancelled before seeing the light of day.

https://screenrant.com/marvel-diversity-comic-sales-single-issue/

"The March 2018 solicitations revealed the cancellation of several titles that fit the 'diverse' label, including Gwenpool, Luke Cage, Iceman, Generation X, and America. In short, almost every title on the chopping block featured female, POC, or LGBT+ leads and/or creative teams - not a great move for Marvel. These straight-up cancellations aren't the only casualties, either. Jane Foster as Thor is unlikely to live past the spring, as Marvel is teasing the death of the character in 'The Death Of The Mighty Thor', with fans assuming that Thor Odinson will re-take the title once Jane is no more. X-23 as Wolverine may also be on the way out, or at least, may be losing the Wolverine title as the original Wolverine is coming back to the Marvel universe."

The creator of Kamala Khan, G. Willow Wilson, is a white blue eyed woman, born in New Jersey raised in Colorado, who converted to Islam and, who married an Egyptian. She is obsessed with communism and Islam, for some reason.

https://womenincomics.fandom.com/wiki/G._Willow_Wilson

Co-Creator of Kamala Khan Sana Amanat who did not contribute much, because writing and story duties were left to Wilson. Said herself they created Kamala for minority representation. Sana Amanat abused her position within Marvel to further push a feminist agenda.

Inspiration
In her Ted Talk, Amanat stated that "the big idea behind Ms. Marvel [was] very much about minority representation, the bigger idea was about finding your authentic self". While creating the comic, she drew on her own experience as the child of Pakistani immigrants in the New Jersey suburbs in hopes that the next generation will not experience identity rejection as she did through a relatable superhero.

https://womenincomics.fandom.com/wiki/G._Willow_Wilson

Both creators have a big feminist, social justice agenda, and they have openly expressed it.

"Inspired by her experience during a college Islamic Studies course, Wilson, who was raised an atheist, decides to risk everything to convert to Islam and embark on a fated journey across continents and into an uncertain future. She settles in Cairo, where she attempts to submerge herself in a culture based on her adopted religion and where she meets Omar, a man with a mild resentment of the Western influences in his homeland. They begin a daring relationship that calls into question the very nature of family, belief, and tradition. Torn between the secular West and Muslim East, Wilson records her intensely personal struggle to forge a “third culture” that might accommodate her values without compromising them or the friends and family on both sides of the divide."

G. Willow Wilson is part of the radical left liberal movement, and is obsessed with the middle east and has a hardcore feminist agenda.

Alif the Unseen is a 2012 cyberpunk fantasy novel by G. Willow Wilson. In the novel, a Middle Eastern hacker named Alif discovers a book of djinn tales which may lead to a new age of quantum computing.

The Bird King is a 2019 fantasy novel by writer G. Willow Wilson.[1] Set in 1491, the novel takes place in the Emirate of Granada during the territory's final days. The story concerns the flight of Fatima and Hassan, a concubine and mapmaker, respectively, from service to the Emirate's last sultan.

The Butterfly Mosque, journalist G. Willow Wilson’s remarkable story of converting to Islam and falling in love with an Egyptian man in a volatile post–9/11 world, was praised as “an eye-opening look at a misunderstood and often polarizing faith”

Invisible Kingdom, G. Willow Wilson's story In a small solar system in a far-flung galaxy, two women—one a young religious acolyte and the other, a hard-bitten freighter pilot—uncover a conspiracy between the leaders of the most dominant religion and an all-consuming mega-corporation.

On the run from reprisals on both sides, this unlikely pair must decide where their loyalties lie—and risk plunging the world into anarchy if they reveal the truth.

All of G. Willow Wilson, books are about female empowerment, and corrupt men who deserve was coming to them.

Both Wilson and Amanat, have openly attacked fans just like other female Marvel writers which shall not be mentioned, about their female agenda and women oppression. Which is not a thing, educated women, get far in life, and do not make any less money nor get treated differently for being female. We don't live in the 1970's anymore.

And once more, Kamala Khan comic books, have barely sold, just as all the other social justice propaganda ads, the new Disney Marvel call comic books.

As an end note, and not even being a huge Spiderman Fan. Peter Parker is more relatable than Mike Morales ever will, no matter where you come from, no matter what the color of your skin is. The struggles of Peter Parker are universal to anybody, none of these token characters will ever have stories or the presence than any of the old heroes do and I say this as a foreigner who never set foot in America until I was 17 years old.

[Dex]

i'll be honest, i stopped playing after an hour because of the main character. She just wasn't interesting to me. I don't hate her though, not sure what that's all about.

[nenoro]

a topic created by someone who doesn't own the game why feed it ?

[SaeLipa]

Originally posted by nenoro:

a topic created by someone who doesn't own the game why feed it ?

Some people didnt get the game for the lack of some heroes, me for example, im waiting for Scarlet someday, but i like to keep track here to see if the game is improving

[Captain Worthy]

Originally posted by meow meow:

Originally posted by Captain Worthy:

And she was chosen well. There is no other Marvel character who represents us all who got into Marvel comics as kids, as well as Kamala does.

Speak for yourself. For others it was Wolverine and others and not the cringe of Kamala Khan.

If Wolverine represents you as the kid who got into Marvel comics, do you mean you had severe rage issues and violent episodes with no control over yourself when growing up? An urge to hunt and kill? :S

Maybe you misunderstood what I wrote. Kamala represents all of us who got into Marvel comics as kids, because like our kid selves she has dreams of becoming part of this superhero team from the comic books and fighting the bad guys & saving the day. Through them she lives imaginary adventures, just like we did when reading novels & comic books. This sort of a thing has absolutely nothing to do with gender, ethnicity nor religious background.

The difference between Kamala as a fan and us as fans is that she lives in this same imaginary world as her heroes and gets to fulfill her Marvel dreams.

Of course if there were for example a young Nordic male character with blue eyes and blonde hair who goes through the same as Kamala, then this would represent myself at least even more accurately than she does, I wouldn't be denying that. But there is no such character, Kamala is the one who represents us who got into the comic books as kids the best.

[RobotMan #08]

Originally posted by Captain Worthy:

Originally posted by meow meow:

Speak for yourself. For others it was Wolverine and others and not the cringe of Kamala Khan.

If Wolverine represents you as the kid who got into Marvel comics, do you mean you had severe rage issues and violent episodes with no control over yourself when growing up? An urge to hunt and kill? :S

Maybe you misunderstood what I wrote. Kamala represents all of us who got into Marvel comics as kids, because like our kid selves she has dreams of becoming part of this superhero team from the comic books and fighting the bad guys & saving the day. Through them she lives imaginary adventures, just like we did when reading novels & comic books. This sort of a thing has absolutely nothing to do with gender, ethnicity nor religious background.

The difference between Kamala as a fan and us as fans is that she lives in this same imaginary world as her heroes and gets to fulfill her Marvel dreams.

Of course if there were for example a young Nordic male character with blue eyes and blonde hair who goes through the same as Kamala, then this would represent myself at least even more accurately than she does, I wouldn't be denying that. But there is no such character, Kamala is the one who represents us who got into the comic books as kids the best.

Just because they wrote Kamala in this game as a comic book nerd who loves the avengers doesn't necessarily mean shes the representation of all people who got into comics in general. For me, it was actually The Flash & Spider-Man!. And maybe the person did relate more so with Wolverine, but that doesn't give you the right to go & criticize or *ad hominem* him over an opinion of what character got him into comics.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSjTM-S4QVTTxrMSPrRWXsRkR5fPURgX1dhlQ&usqp=CAU

[Captain Worthy]

Originally posted by ForbeZ:

Originally posted by Captain Worthy:

If Wolverine represents you as the kid who got into Marvel comics, do you mean you had severe rage issues and violent episodes with no control over yourself when growing up? An urge to hunt and kill? :S

Maybe you misunderstood what I wrote. Kamala represents all of us who got into Marvel comics as kids, because like our kid selves she has dreams of becoming part of this superhero team from the comic books and fighting the bad guys & saving the day. Through them she lives imaginary adventures, just like we did when reading novels & comic books. This sort of a thing has absolutely nothing to do with gender, ethnicity nor religious background.

The difference between Kamala as a fan and us as fans is that she lives in this same imaginary world as her heroes and gets to fulfill her Marvel dreams.

Of course if there were for example a young Nordic male character with blue eyes and blonde hair who goes through the same as Kamala, then this would represent myself at least even more accurately than she does, I wouldn't be denying that. But there is no such character, Kamala is the one who represents us who got into the comic books as kids the best.

Just because they wrote Kamala in this game as a comic book nerd who loves the avengers doesn't necessarily mean shes the representation of all people who got into comics in general. For me, it was actually The Flash & Spider-Man!. And maybe the person did relate more so with Wolverine, but that doesn't give you the right to go & criticize or *ad hominem* him over an opinion of what character got him into comics.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSjTM-S4QVTTxrMSPrRWXsRkR5fPURgX1dhlQ&usqp=CAU

You have misunderstood me once again.

You are speaking of relating with certain characters and idolization, which are different things from representation.

Spider-Man, Captain America & Iron Man are my main Marvel idols, but none of these characters represent kids who fall in love with the amazing world of superhero comic books.

I don't judge people based on what characters they relate with, I am simply concerned when someone says a character with psychotic rage episodes represents them better than a character who is literally a Marvel comic book fan.

I can relate with Wolverine & The Hulk too, everyone has self control issues sometimes and lashes out at people without thinking. But if I for example said that the Wolverine & Hulk represent me best, I would be talking about some severe life destroying issues indeed. That is the sort of anger which leads to people being hurt, badly.

Besides, you seem to have missed the fact that I have been saying Kamala, as a young comic book fan, represents us who were comic book fans from a young age as well. She is the best character from Marvel at this specific representation. I have not been saying that Kamala, as an American-Pakistani Muslim teenage girl represents me, a Nordic adult male of Christian faith and Caucasian descent.

Flash & Spider-Man might represent you in many ways indeed but I don't think they ever represented you as a kid who was into comic books.

Wolverine could easily represent anyone from Canada too based on the nationality, but him representing a kid who's into superhero comics or Marvel superhero comics in particular? That's some stretch. 🤔

[RobotMan #08]

Originally posted by Captain Worthy:

Originally posted by ForbeZ:

Just because they wrote Kamala in this game as a comic book nerd who loves the avengers doesn't necessarily mean shes the representation of all people who got into comics in general. For me, it was actually The Flash & Spider-Man!. And maybe the person did relate more so with Wolverine, but that doesn't give you the right to go & criticize or *ad hominem* him over an opinion of what character got him into comics.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSjTM-S4QVTTxrMSPrRWXsRkR5fPURgX1dhlQ&usqp=CAU

You have misunderstood me once again.

You are speaking of relating with certain characters and idolization, which are different things from representation.

Spider-Man, Captain America & Iron Man are my main Marvel idols, but none of these characters represent kids who fall in love with the amazing world of superhero comic books.

I don't judge people based on what characters they relate with, I am simply concerned when someone says a character with psychotic rage episodes represents them better than a character who is literally a Marvel comic book fan.

I can relate with Wolverine & The Hulk too, everyone has self control issues sometimes and lashes out at people without thinking. But if I for example said that the Wolverine & Hulk represent me best, I would be talking about some severe life destroying issues indeed. That is the sort of anger which leads to people being hurt, badly.

Besides, you seem to have missed the fact that I have been saying Kamala, as a young comic book fan, represents us who were comic book fans from a young age as well. She is the best character from Marvel at this specific representation. I have not been saying that Kamala, as an American-Pakistani Muslim teenage girl represents me, a Nordic adult male of Christian faith and Caucasian descent.

Flash & Spider-Man might represent you in many ways indeed but I don't think they ever represented you as a kid who was into comic books.

Wolverine could easily represent anyone from Canada too based on the nationality, but him representing a kid who's into superhero comics or Marvel superhero comics in particular? That's some stretch. 🤔

Hey Bub, stop deflecting & turning everything into battle with EVERYONE else here. You are turning into the bully & attacking someone for liking a specific "fictional" character. If the dude likes Wolverine & Hulk, why go after him for it at all even? That's like the bullies that messed with Peter Parker & Flash as kids. I'm pretty sure there are WAY more people who those characters can be related too vs. Kamala. I'm also pretty sure those two characters right there read comics as kids & then became super-heroes just like Kamala as well. 🤔

As far as Idolization goes, that's how Kamala is written into this game as she Idolizes all of the avengers as almost "god-like figures" and that is even depicted in the very first scene of the game itself. And speaking of God-like, what about Thor...the God of Thunder! 🤔

And before you get into me bullying you for you liking Kamala, I will also say the exact same thing to that person except there is a difference between what was said and how you reacted toward them. There have been times I myself have agreed with things you said & disagreed with other things you said, but just saying crap like this to someone for their opinion or viewpoint is straight up bullying someone mentally with your little statements like this:

Originally posted by Captain Worthy:

If Wolverine represents you as the kid who got into Marvel comics, do you mean you had severe rage issues and violent episodes with no control over yourself when growing up? An urge to hunt and kill?

There was also this bit too which I believe (imo) to be a misrepresentation of a certain viewpoint.

Originally posted by Captain Worthy:

The difference between Kamala as a fan and us as fans is that she lives in this same imaginary world as her heroes and gets to fulfill her Marvel dreams.

I actually do live in the same world as a certain person (some might even call a hero) that mimics their MCU counter part such as RDJ & Tony Stark quite literally being the same person & battling self destructive behaviors & alcoholism. People can actually look up to him as an inspiration since it has been almost 20 years since that man got cleaned up & sober & look how far he has come since then.

Try something new for a change and understand that not everything that everyone says to you is to directly insult you, challenge you or put you down in a negative way. But if all you're going to do is accept someone's comment or opinion as a direct challenge for you to begin a counter argument to, then there really isn't much else to say going forward other than i'm sorry that is the way it has to be!

[TundraTroll907]

Yes put a non white muslim super hero as a lead, and all the racist say its the worst game ever. But of course i could see the cover ups coming in after this post. Just move on and admit you're racist

[ØGThor]

Originally posted by Captain Worthy:

Originally posted by meow meow:

Speak for yourself. For others it was Wolverine and others and not the cringe of Kamala Khan.

If Wolverine represents you as the kid who got into Marvel comics, do you mean you had severe rage issues and violent episodes with no control over yourself when growing up? An urge to hunt and kill? :S

Maybe you misunderstood what I wrote. Kamala represents all of us who got into Marvel comics as kids, because like our kid selves she has dreams of becoming part of this superhero team from the comic books and fighting the bad guys & saving the day. Through them she lives imaginary adventures, just like we did when reading novels & comic books. This sort of a thing has absolutely nothing to do with gender, ethnicity nor religious background.

The difference between Kamala as a fan and us as fans is that she lives in this same imaginary world as her heroes and gets to fulfill her Marvel dreams.

Of course if there were for example a young Nordic male character with blue eyes and blonde hair who goes through the same as Kamala, then this would represent myself at least even more accurately than she does, I wouldn't be denying that. But there is no such character, Kamala is the one who represents us who got into the comic books as kids the best.

Funny how he doesn't even try to come up with an argument with the facts that I posted. Is that how far your intelligence goes worthy? lmao

Kamala Khan, was introduced in 2014 by two, feminist liberals trying to spread their social justice agenda.

My post up above explains her inception, and why she is a political character.

I posted plenty of evidence in the post up above. She was created solely to be a token political character, made to advanced an agenda. Not to appeal to anybody, and that is why her comic books do not sell. Same as all the other token characters.

Also being an admirer of the Avengers is not exclusive to Kamala, there are more Marvel Heroes who dreamed of one day joining the avengers. Pretty much everyone in the New Avengers and Young Avengers started that way. Some bigger names than Kamala will ever be is Wiccan and Squirrel Girl.

Originally posted by Gecko:

i'll be honest, i stopped playing after an hour because of the main character. She just wasn't interesting to me. I don't hate her though, not sure what that's all about.

Here's the perfect example of someone unbiased. Kamala Khan does not appeal even to the average person. Why would it appeal to anyone else but liberal social justice warrior?

[nenoro]

Originally posted by Sa3kmis:

Originally posted by nenoro:

a topic created by someone who doesn't own the game why feed it ?

Some people didnt get the game for the lack of some heroes, me for example, im waiting for Scarlet someday, but i like to keep track here to see if the game is improving

The full cast i would like to get not only from the movies the entire full cast

[Kill It]

Originally posted by nenoro:

Originally posted by Sa3kmis:

Some people didnt get the game for the lack of some heroes, me for example, im waiting for Scarlet someday, but i like to keep track here to see if the game is improving

The full cast i would like to get not only from the movies the entire full cast

omg yes please