This game is still a joke lol

[Boss Baby]

I booted up the game for the first time in months and got the usual 10 minute loading screen after a new patch (fine), then I dropped into the campaign and the game bizarrely didn't load the map. All I could see were the waypoint icons like terminals and vendors off in the distance with the rest being a black screen. Next, I reloaded from a checkpoint which dropped me straight into a cutscene with no audio. Do they even bother to play test this game? Where did Square Enix get devs who think it's okay to release an AAA product in this state?

[Andrew]

The game ran perfectly well for me on an AMD Phenom II 965 x4 Black and GTX 1650.
If the CPU does not ring a bell it is a 10 year old processor with a 3 year old GPU. I ran the game without error albeit at Lowest preset.

Sure, I had to see the hero montage 4 times before finally loading. 90% of the time I would lose my group on check point restart due to latency caused by my load times. People would wonder in elevators or the Quiinjet if they got stuck in an infinite loop due to my slow load times. But none of these things are the developer's fault.

This is what is called a PEBCAK error. The Problem Exists Between Chair And Keyboard.

I did not blame the developers for not reading the POSTED requirements for the game. I was warned. But there are solutions to making the game run at below spec. This is what you need to do.

Recently, I upgraded to a Ryzen 5600 and the fastest M.2 available. I still have the GTX 1650, so I have not attempted Ultra but have been able to hop out of the Lowest preset. My load times have dropped from 5 to 10 minutes to less than 2 seconds.

People get mad at me when I point out that most of the users problem's are PEBCAK errors, but I only do it when they ignorantly accuse the developers for issues that the DEVs have no control over.

[Captain Worthy]

And in 10 years from now our PC's with Ryzen 5600's & M.2 SSD's will run new games slow as molasses and we still won't blame the devs as we know our hardware has got too old & worn out. It happens to everyone eventually.

Just upgrade and stay with the times if you want to play games which push the tech forwards instead of being optimized for 15 year old potatoes from East Europe.

[BOWSER]

OP, are you gaming on a Laptop or Desktop? Just wondering.

I'll admit, I've never seen a game launch as bad as MA, but it was only for a month. The game was fixed for me in October 2020. I've been playing the game since then with very little problems.

I almost have the same set-up as Andrew. A 2019 desktop computer containing a Ryzen 5 3500 CPU with a GTX 1650 4GB GDDR5 GPU working together with 16GB DDR4 RAM and an NVME M.2 SSD. This set-up is sufficient for 1080 but not higher. I am well aware of my computer's limits per application. M.2 SSD is 5x faster than a SATA SSD which is 5x faster than a SATA HDD, so basically an M.2 SSD is 25x times faster than an HDD. I would not be able to use my current MA settings if I did not have the M.2 SSD. I'd have to play at a lower setting with an HDD because my GPU is not exactly the best but my PC runs the game just fine in 1080.

Also, the only programs I use are Steam, several video editors and viewers, and Firefox. My GPU drivers are NOT up to date but my game doesn't crash. The only explanation is that my hardware and software are running together harmoniously with no interference from additional apps that could potentially interfere with CPU or memory bandwidth inevitably leading to unwanted and unforeseen application errors if not properly maintained.

Every time I check the Steam charts, it shows 1080 as the most used resolution at around 65%. Any developer with this information is going to target the larger audience in an attempt to be compatible with the most popular setting (thus most money) which is the 1080 users so their efforts will cater to the 1080 users the most. When devs add Additional Notes under their Recommended Settings, it always mentions 1080. Higher resolutions are rarely mentioned in the Minimum / Recommended settings on the Store Page.

[Captain Worthy]

Originally posted by BOWSER:

Every time I check the Steam charts, it shows 1080 as the most used resolution at around 65%. Any developer with this information is going to target the larger audience in an attempt to be compatible with the most popular setting which is the 1080 users so their efforts will cater to the 1080 users the most. When devs add Additional Notes under their Recommended Settings, it always mentions 1080. Higher resolutions are rarely mentioned in the Minimum / Recommended settings on the Store Page.

1080p is the most common resolution because the vast majority of competitive gaming revolves around high framerate displays and these get prohibitively expensive at 1440p and 4k. The GPU and CPU would need to be pretty darn strong for something like 144fps 4k gaming anyways, and most gamers do not yet have the hardware for this.

League of Legends and CS:GO run on older PC's too where getting to 120-144fps can be done on weaker & cheaper hardware.

I have my sights set on a 4k 144Hz IPS gaming display for this autumn, it's going to be sweet for the few games I can actually run that fast with my RX 6800. Marvel's Avengers won't be one of them. 😁

[RobotMan #08]

These have to be some of the stupidest and lazy responses to the OP's problem he explained. Blame the persons PC or call it a PEBCAK error when we have ALL seen how many issues this game has had since day -1 (Beta). 🤦🏻‍♂️

To the OP: I feel ya, only thing you can do is verify game files integrity, update your driver and reboot. Otherwise...wait for another patch to drop and see if they tweaked it any better. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[itsgalaxystudio]

i am pretty sure this is not the developers fault, it mostly works for me and the loading time is only 1-3 mins

[RobotMan #08]

Originally posted by itsgalaxystudio:

i am pretty sure this is not the developers fault, it mostly works for me and the loading time is only 1-3 mins

It's almost always an extremely long bootup the first load after they drop a new patch or update, even with it installed on an SSD. After the first load though, 1-3 mins is the usual time I get too...but his complaint is primarily about the level not loading properly. The devs even had rolled out a quick fix to issues literally within 48hrs to this massive update, so some of the issues most definitely can be put on the devs and lack of proper testing...not all of them though.

[BOWSER]

Originally posted by ForbeZ:

These have to be some of the stupidest and lazy responses to the OP's problem he explained. Blame the persons PC or call it a PEBCAK error when we have ALL seen how many issues this game has had since day -1 (Beta). 🤦🏻‍♂️

To the OP: I feel ya, only thing you can do is verify game files integrity, update your driver and reboot. Otherwise...wait for another patch to drop and see if they tweaked it any better. 🤷🏻‍♂️

And your response of just waiting for a patch is not stupid and lazy?

[RobotMan #08]

Originally posted by BOWSER:

Originally posted by ForbeZ:

These have to be some of the stupidest and lazy responses to the OP's problem he explained. Blame the persons PC or call it a PEBCAK error when we have ALL seen how many issues this game has had since day -1 (Beta). 🤦🏻‍♂️

To the OP: I feel ya, only thing you can do is verify game files integrity, update your driver and reboot. Otherwise...wait for another patch to drop and see if they tweaked it any better. 🤷🏻‍♂️

And your response of just waiting for a patch is not stupid and lazy?

🤣🤣🤣 Yeah, this game was updated so heavily over the course of a patch that it requires the OP to go upgrade his PC and components to properly play the game now?! C'mon, you're better than that! 🤦🏻‍♂️

At least you asked a question as to what kind of rig they're playing on...versus upgrading the PC or the PEBCAK error...THAT is what I was really referring too!

[Andrew]

Originally posted by ForbeZ:

Originally posted by BOWSER:

And your response of just waiting for a patch is not stupid and lazy?

🤣🤣🤣 Yeah, this game was updated so heavily over the course of a patch that it requires the OP to go upgrade his PC and components to properly play the game now?! C'mon, you're better than that! 🤦🏻‍♂️

The title of the thread. A generic original post. No hardware indicated. Technically, no one can help the OP because we have nothing to go one except speculation.

His issues sounded like my original issues with the game with a 10 year old processor. So I gave him a testimonial and referred to MY issue as a PEBCAK error.

While my post does not necessarily help him, it does explain how a lot of people stir up false grief on the game and the trolls run with false anecdotes as gospel and fuel to spread lies about this game.

There are many things about this game that have been fixed and optimized, and there are many players whose systems are not optimized yet they blame the developers for it.

[RobotMan #08]

Originally posted by Andrew:

Originally posted by ForbeZ:

🤣🤣🤣 Yeah, this game was updated so heavily over the course of a patch that it requires the OP to go upgrade his PC and components to properly play the game now?! C'mon, you're better than that! 🤦🏻‍♂️

The title of the thread. A generic original post. No hardware indicated. Technically, no one can help the OP because we have nothing to go one except speculation.

His issues sounded like my original issues with the game with a 10 year old processor. So I gave him a testimonial and referred to MY issue as a PEBCAK error.

While my post does not necessarily help him, it does explain how a lot of people stir up false grief on the game and the trolls run with false anecdotes as gospel and fuel to spread lies about this game.

There are many things about this game that have been fixed and optimized, and there are many players whose systems are not optimized yet they blame the developers for it.

Just because he listed a generic title and didn't give outright specs instantly doesn't mean basic troubleshooting can't be performed instead of outright blaming the person.

At least I gave the basic rule of troubleshooting when it comes to these types of things versus PEBCAK and upgrading. "Hello I.T. Have you tried turning it off and on again?!"

[BOWSER]

Originally posted by ForbeZ:

Originally posted by BOWSER:

And your response of just waiting for a patch is not stupid and lazy?

🤣🤣🤣 Yeah, this game was updated so heavily over the course of a patch that it requires the OP to go upgrade his PC and components to properly play the game now?! C'mon, you're better than that! 🤦🏻‍♂️

I don't know if OP needs an upgrade. I gave examples of components that are proven to work and he/she can take that information into consideration or not. That's up to him/her to decide.

If OP does need to upgrade then they probably needed new components since the start, which would be several months ago according to them. Even after several months of patches and updates, OP mentions "the usual 10 minute loading" which strongly indicates a consistently slow processor. A guaranteed fix would be to upgrade the system to be more similar to rigs that are proven to function correctly or use resolutions that are better suited for the current hardware. Since OP didn't provide any information, we can only speculate.

[RobotMan #08]

Originally posted by BOWSER:

we can only speculate.

That's part of the problem right there though too....try to do more to educate and less to speculate. No matter what I think of this game and it's positives and negatives, I always try to help the fellow gamer when they have an issue. If it bites me back, oh well...at least I tried to help them instead of pushing them further away. Maybe it helps them, maybe it doesn't. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[Andrew]

Originally posted by BOWSER:

"the usual 10 minute loading" which strongly indicates a consistently slow processor.

That was astute of you. His grammar also lead me to believe an ongoing problem which I experienced, so I optimized my system and the problems went away.

I was told to say, "Hey, try to reboot your system!"

LOL, but yes this does solve issues but he implied a consistent issue so one would think that he did reboot his system. Which by the way is a problem between chair and keyboard. Everyone should know to first try a reboot.

And technically, the OP did not ask for help. However, he did ask questions which reflected my original post.

Originally posted by ForbeZ:

Originally posted by BOWSER:

we can only speculate.

That's part of the problem right there though too....try to do more to educate and less to speculate. No matter what I think of this game and it's positives and negatives, I always try to help the fellow gamer when they have an issue. If it bites me back, oh well...at least I tried to help them instead of pushing them further away. Maybe it helps them, maybe it doesn't. 🤷🏻‍♂️

So we can only speculate if he asked for help.

[RobotMan #08]

Originally posted by Andrew:

So we can only speculate if he asked for help.

Originally posted by Andrew:

My load times have dropped from 5 to 10 minutes to less than 2 seconds.

I guess I'm just gonna have to speculate the current load times you listed to be 100% accurate as well?! 🤷🏻‍♂️