No online multiplayer... why?

[Jamyjet]

I don't understand why people are defending this game not having it. When:

1. The Overcooked games have online multiplayer and it works fine.
2. Everyone is self isolating and can't exactly play couch coop games with their friends right now.

As it stands there is no market for a local coop game... there's no excuse for such a poor launch.

[Darkness]

1a. Overcooked 1 didn't have online co-op, only the sequel had.
1b. There're lot of "Overcooked-like" games that don't have online co-op, besides this one. Need a list?
1c. Having Online co-op for a game on this genre is costly, and often can backfire when people can't find random people to play together easily. See "Out of Space" as an example on that.
2a. You can use Steam Remote Play Together or Parsec to play it online just fine.
2b. The devs would need to have planned online co-op long ago, and they couldn't foresee the pandemics, nor could they implement online co-op in this few months prior to release.
2c. So do you mean they should forbid the release of local co-op only games at the moment?

Very reasonable with the devs.

[LL]

Originally posted by Jamyjet:

As it stands there is no market for a local coop game...

Of course there is

[Darkness]

Originally posted by aXemeXa:

Originally posted by Jamyjet:

As it stands there is no market for a local coop game...

Of course there is

Indeed. There're lots of people playing at the same house with people they live with, like couples, brothers, parents and their children, and so on.

...and those like me that play local games remotelly using Parsec with friends.

[Lauren_Team17]

Hey!

The dev team were focused on releasing a fun and well polished couch co-op game that folks could enjoy with their friends and family in person.

Sadly the current situation is unfortunate in that some people are isolating alone, but a lot of people are isolating with family, partners and friends.

We hope that once lockdowns lift that people will continue to enjoy Moving Out together in person.

[Le Neurt]

The devs where very clear noting that the game would not support online play (even tho you can technically still play it online by using the stream remote play features...) So i really don't get it when people hate on this game. It honestly makes you look naive. Im not trying to hate here, i just really don't get it.

[pizza4life]

Originally posted by Darkness:

1a. Overcooked 1 didn't have online co-op, only the sequel had.
1b. There're lot of "Overcooked-like" games that don't have online co-op, besides this one. Need a list?
1c. Having Online co-op for a game on this genre is costly, and often can backfire when people can't find random people to play together easily. See "Out of Space" as an example on that.
2a. You can use Steam Remote Play Together or Parsec to play it online just fine.
2b. The devs would need to have planned online co-op long ago, and they couldn't foresee the pandemics, nor could they implement online co-op in this few months prior to release.
2c. So do you mean they should forbid the release of local co-op only games at the moment?

Very reasonable with the devs.

Pandemic or not, this game should definitely have online play, and allow friends to have a play session any time without having to come together in a same space. Personally me and my girlfriend has completed the Overcooked 2 thoroughly while playing in our respective home, but we didn't play Overcooked 1 (Steam Remote Play Together wasn't introduced back then). It is 2020 now and cross-multiplatform play is a thing. PC players can now play with console players, so 'can't find random people to play together' hardly make sense. Not to mention that online co-op with strangers might be the only option for many people (friends doesn't have Steam etc)

[pizza4life]

Originally posted by Le Neurt:

The devs where very clear noting that the game would not support online play (even tho you can technically still play it online by using the stream remote play features...) So i really don't get it when people hate on this game. It honestly makes you look naive. Im not trying to hate here, i just really don't get it.

Native online play feature can lead to better online infrastructure integrations and features over Steam Remote Play or Parsec. Developers can have full log, on any online issues and implement solution faster and better.

Originally posted by Lauren_Team17:

Hey!

The dev team were focused on releasing a fun and well polished couch co-op game that folks could enjoy with their friends and family in person.

Sadly the current situation is unfortunate in that some people are isolating alone, but a lot of people are isolating with family, partners and friends.

We hope that once lockdowns lift that people will continue to enjoy Moving Out together in person.

Is there any plan for online feature down the road though?

[Lauren_Team17]

No, there are no plans to add online features in later on.

[Pizzaman]

Originally posted by Lauren_Team17:

No, there are no plans to add online features in later on.

That's very unfortunate. I was closely looking at the game as it seems to be kind of fun, but not having native/real online co-op is a dealbreaker for me.

[Zectifin]

It doesn't matter if the devs noted it won't have online play. It's a valid criticism for a game charging $25 and chosen to release at a time when people can't play together. Remote play is a joke, it has way to much lag to play any game other than turn based. You're not in charge of what constitutes a valid negative review.

[Jamyjet]

Originally posted by Zectifin Pulgris:

It doesn't matter if the devs noted it won't have online play. It's a valid criticism for a game charging $25 and chosen to release at a time when people can't play together. Remote play is a joke, it has way to much lag to play any game other than turn based. You're not in charge of what constitutes a valid negative review.

Exactly, if overcooked 2 can add online coop, it's a step backwards for the developers next game to not have this feature. Steam remote play works pretty poorly in my experience too. And for those saying to download parsec, I shouldn't have to download a third party app to get a feature that should have been included in the game to begin with.

[Amulrei]

Originally posted by Lauren_Team17:

No, there are no plans to add online features in later on.

I would love to know the logic behind this decision because other than cutting corners and rushing out a product prematurely, I am struggling to think of one that makes any sense. Especially for a title your company expects to sell on the PC during a situation like the world is currently experiencing.

Even if we are to believe the claim about it being a "polished couch-coop game" (which I personally do not. Nothing I have seen or experienced with the game could not have also been achieved with online multiplayer and voice chat), there would have been nothing lost by offering online multiplayer as well. If anything, there would have been far, far more gained.

I am not expecting an honest answer to my question from a company representative, but I will say this is a poor offering for the price asked and I agree with the sentiment that this is a considerable step backwards from similar titles. Some, ironically, of which that Team17 themselves have published.

[gh0st]

Amulrei, the logic is simple: Making a game designed for online coop demands a lot more resources and impacts next to all design choices further down the road.

Did you play the demo? If not, I strongly suggest doing that.

I will buy this game, play it with my wife if I can convince her to and otherwise wait for Moving Out 2.

But for this to happen fans of the game have to make this first game a moderate success.

They included options to alter game difficulty from impossible to manageable and even easy peasy.

These are included in the demo as well.

Play around with them and keep moving.

Stay healthy!

[LL]

Originally posted by Jamyjet:

Originally posted by Zectifin Pulgris:

It doesn't matter if the devs noted it won't have online play. It's a valid criticism for a game charging $25 and chosen to release at a time when people can't play together. Remote play is a joke, it has way to much lag to play any game other than turn based. You're not in charge of what constitutes a valid negative review.

Exactly, if overcooked 2 can add online coop, it's a step backwards for the developers next game to not have this feature. Steam remote play works pretty poorly in my experience too. And for those saying to download parsec, I shouldn't have to download a third party app to get a feature that should have been included in the game to begin with.

Not the same developer

[pizza4life]

Originally posted by Lauren_Team17:

No, there are no plans to add online features in later on.

Thanks for the reply. I have just initiated a refund, I will buy again if there's online co-op.

At the moment nobody can come to my house to play this game together with me, so there's next to no reason to buy it (yet at least).