Cross-Platform?

[Jaytivity]

i was wondering if this game is crossplay with ps4 or xbox one perhaps.

[Gryphonheart]

no, there's no crossplay.

[Jaytivity]

Originally posted by Gryphonheart:

no, there's no crossplay.

oh, Thanks for telling me, the web add me confused for a while there.

[Jaytivity]

Originally posted by Miscalibrated Brain:

It's a shame that it doesn't have cross-play...

Indeed it is, would've been awesome, konami has the money to do so too.

[Gryphonheart]

Konami has money to do many things, like good PC ports of their games, but they refuse to do so.
Konami can't handle cheaters playing on PC, so how do you even imagine this? Transferring all these cheaters into cross-platform, in situation where Konami sell 95%+ of PES copies on consoles market? That would for sure damage their future sales of PES on these markets they care about. Why it is like this you might ask... well... in case you're new here and don't understand business model Konami has for PC market, let me show you a quick example - google for PES 2017 PC vs console comparison and you'll understand everything, no more explanations required. And believe me, nothing changed since 2016.
For me PES 2020 was last game I purchased, because I wont tolerate situation where company treats me like some kind of leper, and refuse to deliver fully functional product I paid for.

[Jaytivity]

Originally posted by Gryphonheart:

Konami has money to do many things, like good PC ports of their games, but they refuse to do so.
Konami can't handle cheaters playing on PC, so how do you even imagine this? Transferring all these cheaters into cross-platform, in situation where Konami sell 95%+ of PES copies on consoles market? That would for sure damage their future sales of PES on these markets they care about. Why it is like this you might ask... well... in case you're new here and don't understand business model Konami has for PC market, let me show you a quick example - google for PES 2017 PC vs console comparison and you'll understand everything, no more explanations required. And believe me, nothing changed since 2016.
For me PES 2020 was last game I purchased, because I wont tolerate situation where company treats me like some kind of leper, and refuse to deliver fully functional product I paid for.

i see now the valid statements you told me,but even so there must be a solution like having hackers in there own separate server permanently y'know like gta v or titan fall did, i believe that could've been a solution to pc part of the problem.but judging from the sale there a chance it might up the sale with this one feature fifa did it with mobile and that just made them stand out even more to be honest cause that what people want.Anyways since it risky and im no dev i much rather not have a repeat of 2017 PES sales aswell so all good with me.fingers cross till 2021 i guess.

[Gryphonheart]

Nothing will ever change, if they will keep making online modes F2P after 2 months. So I paid full price for pre-order, and the only mode I am interested in is F2P and flooded with cheaters. I'd call it scam. Matchdays are so flooded with people, that they're barely playable, because when konami-potato-server is under heavy load, it switch to direct p2p connection between users. Because of that people who paid full price for this pile of trash, are unable to enjoy product they paid for. There are solutions, but Konami don't care about that. They could separate F2P users and paid users, or stop making MyClub mode F2P after few weeks... or make MyClub F2P since day1, so I will not spend 70 euro on their game = I wont complain. Imagine I faced zero lags and cheaters for first two months, but then LITE version came, and everything changed. Even if they ban cheater, will that change anything? No, because he'll simply make another steam account and continue cheating.

[Gryphonheart]

Also keep in mind we're talking about game we have to buy all over again every 12 months, so in short words we pay AAA price for 2 months of exclusive access to MyClub, plus useless campaign mode.
You know what's making the whole thing even more sad? Game itself, because this is best football game ever made, and FIFA gameplay is a total disgrace compared to PES. But Konami policy is ruining everything.

[Jaytivity]

i wont deny that konami A1 Truths Written much better gameplay for sure.