Lossless Scaling

Lossless Scaling

MarkShot9 16 MAR a las 1:54 a. m.
City Skylines 1 - Very Impressive - AFG!
(this is kind of the review which I will post)

13900KS - RTX 4090 - 32" 1080P/60

CS1 maxed out in areas of heavy traffic or pedestrians will drop to about 30 FPS. Still playable as I turned on NVidia's Ultra Latency.

I simply left the game in full screen (DGXI) and chose adaptive (target 60) and click on SCALE. As the Brits say, "it did exactly what it says on the tin". I got a smooth 60 FPS ranging from 30-60 game frames.

No artifacts that I could see with fixed camera or panning. How did I verify that it was really working as my TV doesn't count frames? At 30 FPS, cars show a little jitter to the eye as they speed down the street. With LSC-AFG, the same cars at 60 FPS were very fluid to my eye.

I have probably spent $500 USD on CS1 over the years. For ONLY CS1 at $3 USD, to pickup a locked in 60 FPS in CS1 is worth the buy.

I didn't get it to simply work with other games which are full screen like Rome 2 or Attila. I was intentionally doing custom battles with ultra armies of 4 v 4 to overload my CPU. LSC simply crashed when I tried the same settings as CS1. If anyone knows why, please tell me.

Here is where I hope this product will be in 2 years (as this is my last PC; old and retired). Games like CS1 even at 1080P, grass and bodies look terrible. No amount of math like FXAA can made such crappy 3D models look better. But an AI diffusion transformer will certainly recognize grass and people for what they are and render better grass and people.

So, my hope for the future is that one day LSC will take my old games and make them equal in appearance using my 4090 to new release AAA titles using Unreal 5. The GPU compute is easily there for that; just the AI transformer needs to be put into the pipeline.

That's my hope ... LSC turning old games into new games!

EXCELLENT PRODUCT!!! Take NVidia down a peg or two (I don't like black leather jackets)!!!
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Gizzmoe 16 MAR a las 2:04 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por MarkShot9:
I didn't get it to simply work with other games which are full screen like Rome 2 or Attila. I was intentionally doing custom battles with ultra armies of 4 v 4 to overload my CPU. LSC simply crashed when I tried the same settings as CS1. If anyone knows why, please tell me.

Try the games with borderless or windowed mode, Exclusive Fullscreen doesn't work.
MarkShot9 16 MAR a las 3:02 a. m. 
I just tried Rome 2 and Attila in Windowed. The problem is that I am using a Logitech keyboard and mouse. None of the settings which I created work for the bound keys. Only for standard keys. I will try launching Windowed (the game), and then LSC.

I also wanted to try in the Combat Mission series, but there is not option for Windowed at all.

Thanks.

PS: I wandering if I need to bind logitech controls not to the ROME2.EXE, but to the LosslessScaling.exe.
Gizzmoe 16 MAR a las 3:11 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por MarkShot9:
I just tried Rome 2 and Attila in Windowed. The problem is that I am using a Logitech keyboard and mouse. None of the settings which I created work for the bound keys. Only for standard keys.

Try this:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/993090/discussions/0/510700959196825679/#c510700959196826068
MarkShot9 16 MAR a las 4:07 a. m. 
I will give that try next. When I make LosslessScaling.exe the target for my Logitech profile, it is working. It is not only Logitech as I have custom code written AHK which also has such a dependence.

At the moment, I am just playing to see what can be and how things can be done.

Thanks for your help. I will let you know how it turns out.
MarkShot9 16 MAR a las 4:39 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Gizzmoe:
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Try this:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/993090/discussions/0/510700959196825679/#c510700959196826068

That didn't work. But I AM STILL EXTREMELY HAPPY. I created the Attila torture test of 4 v 4 ultra armies in melee, and even with drops to 20 FPS, I kept a smooth and responsive 60 FPS. Attila is one of CA's most poorly optimized games. Also, the fight I created will never actually happen in a real campaign.

But I am just incredibly impressed with this product. I only have a few games/scenarios which can over power my 13900KS. I built my last PC in 2015, and this one (2023) gave me a 3X FPS boost in my games. I feel that LSC for $3 USD has given me another boost of 2X. Even if I replaced the 13900KS with 9950X3D, it would not equal the bump LSC is providing running on a 4090. This is the best money, I have ever spent on a tool.

As for my controls and custom AHK code not working because of the executable name, I am a retired software engineer. Knowing what the problem is I can easily code a friendly/seamless solution to this.

Thank you very much friend for your help!!!
WallysWorld 16 MAR a las 6:55 p. m. 
The only Combat Mission game that I can get LS to work with is Combat Mission: Afghanistan. The other CMx2 games don't work as like you wrote they don't have windowed mode. But for some reason CMA works fine with LS.
MarkShot9 17 MAR a las 12:29 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por WallysWorld:
The only Combat Mission game that I can get LS to work with is Combat Mission: Afghanistan. The other CMx2 games don't work as like you wrote they don't have windowed mode. But for some reason CMA works fine with LS.

I have all the CMx2 titles. CMA is not really CMx2 as it was an independent team which licensed the engine to do it. So, it is not the same engine as all the other games.

There is a software wrapper called DXWND which might allow you to force the game into a window if you really want to get the CM games running with it.

https://sourceforge.net/projects/dxwnd/
Última edición por MarkShot9; 17 MAR a las 12:31 a. m.
MarkShot9 17 MAR a las 8:17 a. m. 
Wally,

I downloaded DXwnd, but I could not get CM into a window. The utility has a million options and maybe some smarter than me will work out the right settings. Sorry.
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