Lossless Scaling

Lossless Scaling

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TimmyP Jul 6, 2024 @ 6:40am
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Just a heads up: This program is being used as a diversion.
If a game doesn't have frame generation support, its great.

However, any game that does? Using this is a total waste, as every modern GPU supports native frame generation.

But how do you get it without 4000 series?

Nukem9 github. Take the DLL, drop it next to the exe, enable DLSS3.

This works all the way down to 1660, but you wont get DLSS2 upscaling with that.

There are people, for example, capping games at 30fps and using the 3x multiplier in this to get to 90? NO! What are you doing?

There are people literally saying to me, "why use DLSS whenyou can just spend 1 dollar and use this?" NO! What the **** is going on in this hobby?

Anyways. I dont give a **** what you think of this post. Dont overuse this program. It has ZERO use in any game that has frame generation.

Only caveat is no online, with the native mods. Its okay with this, because this is just encoded video.
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Kriss Hietala Jul 6, 2024 @ 6:59am 
What's the point? I want to use fg I use fg. I don't want to use fg I don't use it then. We can think for themselves.
Gizzmoe Jul 6, 2024 @ 7:06am 
^^^ Yup.
TimmyP Jul 6, 2024 @ 7:13am 
Whats the point? Are you kidding? ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ dude.

Do you not care about quality? Input lag?

For example: Say you have a 3060ti, and you want to MAX Cyberpunk pathtraced. How do you do it? Cant, right? WRONG. You just cant do it with this.

Using a DLSS3->FSR3 mod DOES allow you to (1080p, DLSSq. 1440p, DLSSp) as it is taking place all within the pipeline to increase performance. This does not increase performance, it is a smoother video.
Last edited by TimmyP; Jul 6, 2024 @ 7:16am
Rivaldman Jul 6, 2024 @ 7:28am 
I will consider you a jester hunter.
Gizzmoe Jul 6, 2024 @ 7:29am 
Originally posted by TimmyP:
Whats the point? Are you kidding? ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ dude.

Do you not care about quality? Input lag?

90+% of all customers are happy with LS, according to the reviiews, I am happy with it with well. Have you tried LS at all??? If not, do it. If you did, and you tested it with the right system and LS settings and you still don't like it then apparently LS simply isn't something for you for various reasons. It's a matter of taste, you don't have to like LS, let people like they like.
Last edited by Gizzmoe; Jul 6, 2024 @ 7:32am
Gizzmoe Jul 6, 2024 @ 7:38am 
Originally posted by Rivaldman:
I will consider you a jester hunter.

Nah, he's just genuinely misinformed and weird :D
Last edited by Gizzmoe; Jul 6, 2024 @ 7:38am
Rivaldman Jul 6, 2024 @ 7:48am 
Originally posted by Gizzmoe:
Originally posted by Rivaldman:
I will consider you a jester hunter.

Nah, he's just genuinely misinformed and weird :D

Right, I checked his post history. Although he did get a lot of jesters, it looked more like he had a complex.
Last edited by Rivaldman; Jul 6, 2024 @ 7:48am
TimmyP Jul 6, 2024 @ 7:49am 
Originally posted by Gizzmoe:
Originally posted by TimmyP:
Whats the point? Are you kidding? ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ dude.

Do you not care about quality? Input lag?

90+% of all customers are happy with LS, according to the reviiews, I am happy with it with well. Have you tried LS at all??? If not, do it. If you did, and you tested it with the right system and LS settings and you still don't like it then apparently LS simply isn't something for you for various reasons. It's a matter of taste, you don't have to like LS, let people like they like.

Did you not read what I wrote?

I clearly say I am not trying to bash the program.

I am stating that it is being used to hide the FACT that you can add, the same ****ing frame generation MANY people think is gated off to RTX 4000 hardware, with a single DLL drop. THATS IT!

The problem is you have people that "missed" this bit, despite the fact that it should have been the biggest news in the hobby in recent months. You very clearly have people asking why DLSS over this? These people do not even understand that DLSSFS\FSR3 is actually increasing performance!

Its not about letting people "like what they like," its about prolonging the hardware you have NOW, by adding the features Nvidia wants you to think are not possible on your RTX 2000/3000 even 1660! This program does not increase performance, it only hides flaws. Thats fine, until you need performance.

The amount of people out there right now, foaming at the mouth for an upgrade to a 4000 series so they can have frame generation is, or was, massive. Since Dec. 22, 2023, you have been able to add it to all rtx. If that is an option, it should very obviously be used over this.
Gizzmoe Jul 6, 2024 @ 8:05am 
Originally posted by TimmyP:
I am stating that it is being used to hide the FACT that you can add, the same ****ing frame generation MANY people think is gated off to RTX 4000 hardware, with a single DLL drop. THATS IT!

"being used to hide"??? LS doesn't hide sh1t, it's not the job of the dev to name alternatives to LS, and you should known that, you clown.
Last edited by Gizzmoe; Jul 6, 2024 @ 8:05am
TimmyP Jul 6, 2024 @ 8:07am 
Originally posted by Gizzmoe:
Originally posted by TimmyP:
I am stating that it is being used to hide the FACT that you can add, the same ****ing frame generation MANY people think is gated off to RTX 4000 hardware, with a single DLL drop. THATS IT!

"being used to hide"??? LS doesn't hide sh1t, it's not the job of the dev to name alternatives to LS, and you should known that, you clown.

It IS you fool. It is working within a real time video container. This is video smoothing, calling it frame generation is intentional and misleading.

Frame generation is ADDING FRAMES. It is creating them and ADDING to your total. This program does not do that.

*I just ordered a capture card. I will show you a 3070 maxing pathtraced Alan Wake 2, Cyberpunk 2077, etc etc etc etc. Im gonna do it, since this entire community is missing what equates to free hardware.

Can this program INCREASE PERFORMANCE so that Cyberpunk becomes playable? Nope. With DLSS3 and FSR3? Yes.
Last edited by TimmyP; Jul 6, 2024 @ 8:10am
POPO Sandh Jul 6, 2024 @ 8:10am 
you dnt know what your talking about, this program is by far the useful program in my library.
Body cam has frame gen built in but i can only use it with fsr which will cause the ray tracing in that game to shimmer alot, i instead use the frame gen of lossless and while keep the game at max quality and it runs good and the ray tracing is not shimmery.

i play alot of games that are supported by rtx remix, those games are still buggy and early so i get 20 fps on most maps even with dlss at ultra perf on 2080 super, but when i enable frame gen of lossless bam its absolutely amazing how the dxgi api just smooths out the 20 fps making fully playable with barely input lag which u can lower if u anable nividia reflex via nividia control panel or in game.

BeamMP is a heavy game since the crash physics are insane combine that with 10 players on a map its a 30 fps mess but bam add lossless frame gen and there that 30 fps is all smooth and 60 fps like.

Minecraft with bunch of heavy mods, RDR2 at full max setting (dlss also desnt help with it unless if i put it at perf but whats the point then) and bunch of games where my gpu is not strong enough to run at 60 fps and bam lossless frame gen comes and saves the day, its a gem of a program that has extended life time of every ones gpu and is useful for me and best gift given by a friend.

plus this thing latches onto anything and doesn't need to be put in by devs or need a supported game.
Gizzmoe Jul 6, 2024 @ 8:11am 
Originally posted by TimmyP:
Originally posted by Gizzmoe:

"being used to hide"??? LS doesn't hide sh1t, it's not the job of the dev to name alternatives to LS, and you should known that, you clown.

It IS you fool. It is working within a real time video container. This is video smoothing, calling it frame generation is intentional and misleading.

Frame generation is ADDING FRAMES. It is creating them and ADDING to your total. This program does not do that.

"Does not to that"? I don't get what you're trying to say. What's your point?
TimmyP Jul 6, 2024 @ 8:12am 
Originally posted by POPO (Sandh Palne wala):
you dnt know what your talking about, this program is by far the useful program in my library.
Body cam has frame gen built in but i can only use it with fsr which will cause the ray tracing in that game to shimmer alot, i instead use the frame gen of lossless and while keep the game at max quality and it runs good and the ray tracing is not shimmery.

i play alot of games that are supported by rtx remix, those games are still buggy and early so i get 20 fps on most maps even with dlss at ultra perf on 2080 super, but when i enable frame gen of lossless bam its absolutely amazing how the dxgi api just smooths out the 20 fps making fully playable with barely input lag which u can lower if u anable nividia reflex via nividia control panel or in game.

BeamMP is a heavy game since the crash physics are insane combine that with 10 players on a map its a 30 fps mess but bam add lossless frame gen and there that 30 fps is all smooth and 60 fps like.

Minecraft with bunch of heavy mods, RDR2 at full max setting (dlss also desnt help with it unless if i put it at perf but whats the point then) and bunch of games where my gpu is not strong enough to run at 60 fps and bam lossless frame gen comes and saves the day, its a gem of a program that has extended life time of every ones gpu and is useful for me and best gift given by a friend.

plus this thing latches onto anything and doesn't need to be put in by devs or need a supported game.

Then follow me. I am going to change the game. You people dont wanna learn how to add native frame gen, and want to continue beleiving it is gated to RTX 4000? You wanna, for example, continue thinking that your 3080 cannot enable DLSS3 in say, Ratchet and Clank?

Time to end this. Im gonna shove it in your face via reddit, and you will not be able to look away.
Last edited by TimmyP; Jul 6, 2024 @ 8:13am
Gizzmoe Jul 6, 2024 @ 8:15am 
Originally posted by TimmyP:
Can this program INCREASE PERFORMANCE so that Cyberpunk becomes playable? Nope. With DLSS3 and FSR3? Yes.

It does work, I had raised my framerate from 65fps (due to CPU-limit) to 120fps on my 1080ri with x3 framegen in CP2077. Now I'm running 55/165 with an 3080ti.
Last edited by Gizzmoe; Jul 6, 2024 @ 8:16am
Rivaldman Jul 6, 2024 @ 8:17am 
Who cares how you use any DLSS3 mods for unsupported games ... We all know what's happening and available out there.
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