World Of Warcraft

[Elador]

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ BALLS.

Finally, valdrakken runs at 120fps on a 4090!

Jokes aside, just started testing this, and ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, i kid you not - this is what i've been waiting for, was worried about loads of flickering on the ui but not getting it, so far its absolutely a 100% game changer.

I would seriously consider trying this out on any slower, cpu heavy game,.

[Gregard]

Originally posted by ogioto:

Originally posted by Gregard:

My dudes! I get it. You used it and haven't had issues yet. For tech savvy people it makes sense that this is not at all messing with the game's files. I get it!

But when the response from the official technical support says there is a risk because the license agreement clause is vague enough then there is still risk. It doesn't matter if WE think it's clear or not. They have the power and the last say in the matter. If you do get banned, then its your word against theirs, and if you search responses people get when appealing, you don't even get a second glance sometimes. They just get a vague response that you broke a clause and that's it. You can't do anything else.

So, is the risk worth it for you? If yes, more power to you! Go for it. For me it's not. Losing 20 years of progress is just not worth it. Might as well buy a new gfx card :P

We just need to be straight with people that this is NOT guaranteed safe from bans in Blizzard's games. Use at your own risk.

All supports will answer that because support doesn't know and test such apps. That is why the standard answer is that there is a might be a risk and use at own risk.
We used to reply the same to customers (ex- Bandai Namco support here) in such cases because nobody will buy an app that the user is asking just to test it out to see if it will trigger our system and then deal with refunds. That is why the simple method is just to say that and leave the user to drown in anxiety.

Yes sure this might be the case. It makes sense. However, the support guy did reply to me stating that he understands that all the app does is generating frames, increase frame rate, scaling, based on the window, works even on videos, does not alter game files or injects anything, etc, but either way, it still falls under the "any unauthorized 3rd party app", and could potentially violate the license. So it's still not 100% safe. And like I said in previous posts: For people who invested a lot in an online game, a small risk, isn't equal to no risk.

[angelsenvy228]

Originally posted by Gregard:

Originally posted by ogioto:

All supports will answer that because support doesn't know and test such apps. That is why the standard answer is that there is a might be a risk and use at own risk.
We used to reply the same to customers (ex- Bandai Namco support here) in such cases because nobody will buy an app that the user is asking just to test it out to see if it will trigger our system and then deal with refunds. That is why the simple method is just to say that and leave the user to drown in anxiety.

Yes sure this might be the case. It makes sense. However, the support guy did reply to me stating that he understands that all the app does is generating frames, increase frame rate, scaling, based on the window, works even on videos, does not alter game files or injects anything, etc, but either way, it still falls under the "any unauthorized 3rd party app", and could potentially violate the license. So it's still not 100% safe. And like I said in previous posts: For people who invested a lot in an online game, a small risk, isn't equal to no risk.

And the only way they will ever know you use it is if you open a GM ticket and report yourself to them which no one will do so the risk is zero. If they cannot detect the app, they do not know, so their TOS doesn't matter unless you go out of your way to announce it to them. That is the point.

It's along the lines of using dps meters in FF!4. they just read the data going out for your pc and display info on an overlay. it cannot be detected by the game, the only way you get banned is if you go around announcing that you are using it, even though i doubt if you go around announcing it in world chat you would even get banned because you dont get banned for owning a 240hz monitor and having a higher framerate

[Gregard]

Originally posted by angelsenvy228:

Originally posted by Gregard:

Yes sure this might be the case. It makes sense. However, the support guy did reply to me stating that he understands that all the app does is generating frames, increase frame rate, scaling, based on the window, works even on videos, does not alter game files or injects anything, etc, but either way, it still falls under the "any unauthorized 3rd party app", and could potentially violate the license. So it's still not 100% safe. And like I said in previous posts: For people who invested a lot in an online game, a small risk, isn't equal to no risk.

And the only way they will ever know you use it is if you open a GM ticket and report yourself to them which no one will do so the risk is zero. If they cannot detect the app, they do not know, so their TOS doesn't matter unless you go out of your way to announce it to them. That is the point.

Eh but this is incorrect. They have anti cheat engines that scan the programs running on your pc while playing wow. And of course they don't disclose exactly how it works, or which applications are black listed or white listed. An account can get flagged and then banned on the next ban wave. So bottom line is we just can't know if this will trigger a flag or not.

Since you mentioned addons: Usually the game itself supports addons, by giving addon creators an API (a programming interface) to request/get data from the game itself. I'm sure some addons could still be created with malicious intent and they also have to abide by terms of service.

[Elador]

Originally posted by Gregard:

Originally posted by angelsenvy228:

Apparently you never played wow because there are addons all over the place that basically play the game for you. and you think completely externally modded framegen that THEY CANT EVEN DETECT is going to get you banned because some nobody making minimum wage at blizzard told you so? Stop fearmongering dude

Apparently I never played wow. Ok my dude, if you are gonna reply this way I'm not going to entertain you. I've been playing since wow beta, and I got nothing to prove to you. I went to the trouble to ask tech support, twice. And I'm posting here for visibility. This is the official response ok? You can paint it however you like, low wage support people, etc.

(License limitations) II.4: "any code and/or software, not expressly authorized by Blizzard, that can be used in connection with the Platform" could be considered as license violation.

This was quoted to me twice. It's vague enough that they can do whatever they want. Since you are so sure 1000%, then do it. I'm not stopping you. Or fearmongering. It's the damn official statement. You take responsibility for other people if one day this gets detected and they get banned? No, you don't. So let people make their own damn decision. I am just stating the facts. And the facts are that in the eyes of Blizzard there is a risk. The end. There is no debate here.

Originally posted by @v1sualfromtelaviv:

Should i put my game Fullscreen (windowed) or windowed ?

Wow doesnt have a full screen mode anymore

Originally posted by Gregard:

Originally posted by ogioto:

All supports will answer that because support doesn't know and test such apps. That is why the standard answer is that there is a might be a risk and use at own risk.
We used to reply the same to customers (ex- Bandai Namco support here) in such cases because nobody will buy an app that the user is asking just to test it out to see if it will trigger our system and then deal with refunds. That is why the simple method is just to say that and leave the user to drown in anxiety.

Yes sure this might be the case. It makes sense. However, the support guy did reply to me stating that he understands that all the app does is generating frames, increase frame rate, scaling, based on the window, works even on videos, does not alter game files or injects anything, etc, but either way, it still falls under the "any unauthorized 3rd party app", and could potentially violate the license. So it's still not 100% safe. And like I said in previous posts: For people who invested a lot in an online game, a small risk, isn't equal to no risk.

Quite honestly, I like you have 20 years in wow, but this answer they are giving is to simply cover themselves, I think - honestly your worrying over nothing.

I'll continue to use it, if i ever get banned ill respond here for clarity.

[Fonsu]

Originally posted by Elador:

Originally posted by Gregard:

Apparently I never played wow. Ok my dude, if you are gonna reply this way I'm not going to entertain you. I've been playing since wow beta, and I got nothing to prove to you. I went to the trouble to ask tech support, twice. And I'm posting here for visibility. This is the official response ok? You can paint it however you like, low wage support people, etc.

(License limitations) II.4: "any code and/or software, not expressly authorized by Blizzard, that can be used in connection with the Platform" could be considered as license violation.

This was quoted to me twice. It's vague enough that they can do whatever they want. Since you are so sure 1000%, then do it. I'm not stopping you. Or fearmongering. It's the damn official statement. You take responsibility for other people if one day this gets detected and they get banned? No, you don't. So let people make their own damn decision. I am just stating the facts. And the facts are that in the eyes of Blizzard there is a risk. The end. There is no debate here.

Originally posted by @v1sualfromtelaviv:

Should i put my game Fullscreen (windowed) or windowed ?

Wow doesnt have a full screen mode anymore

Originally posted by Gregard:

Yes sure this might be the case. It makes sense. However, the support guy did reply to me stating that he understands that all the app does is generating frames, increase frame rate, scaling, based on the window, works even on videos, does not alter game files or injects anything, etc, but either way, it still falls under the "any unauthorized 3rd party app", and could potentially violate the license. So it's still not 100% safe. And like I said in previous posts: For people who invested a lot in an online game, a small risk, isn't equal to no risk.

Quite honestly, I like you have 20 years in wow, but this answer they are giving is to simply cover themselves, I think - honestly your worrying over nothing.

I'll continue to use it, if i ever get banned ill respond here for clarity.

Any updates? Did you got banned? Just curious because I want to try it lol

[v1sual]

Originally posted by Fonsu:

Originally posted by Elador:

Wow doesnt have a full screen mode anymore



Quite honestly, I like you have 20 years in wow, but this answer they are giving is to simply cover themselves, I think - honestly your worrying over nothing.

I'll continue to use it, if i ever get banned ill respond here for clarity.

Any updates? Did you got banned? Just curious because I want to try it lol

No but i stopped using it instead i bought 4080 and R9 7950x3d xd

[,1,]

using for a week, and sometime the game freez!!! but... i can hear the game, and i can even move(but the image frozen) only alt tab help it...but... its give me 10fps and i need to rescale it agein and agein,,, i dont know why... i have 140hz monitor, i run MAX FPS 60 x 2, getting my 120fps. ez

[NIPPON]

any ban yet?

[Steel]

Originally posted by NIPPON:

any ban yet?

Obviously not, read the second or third post in the thread, or search the forums for the 500 instances of experienced users here telling everyone that LSFG literally does not interact with the game process in any way, it's like asking if a print screen tool to take screenshots of your games will cause a ban. What a needless necro.