Lossless Scaling

Lossless Scaling

About anime4k
How can I make an anime video 60fps? Which settings should I make
投稿主: kripcision:
for 60fps you would need 30fps anime, but the standard is 23.976 fps, so you will get 48fps max. but for the Anime4k option pick very large, and adjust your window size, i found if anime has artifacts that resizing the window smaller before i upscale can give it a cleaner look, you can achieve that by setting the rescaling to manual then check the 'resize before scaling' option, increase/descrease this number to your liking. Leave the Capture API on DXGI.

not sure how you are viewing your anime but some web browsers/ video players dont report the fps quite right so its a pain to set up. VLC and Chrome work fine tho. Kodi on the other hand does not, firefox didnt report the frame rate properly neither)

however if you want your anime (downloaded) to look even better i recommend using MPV player, and add the Anime4k shaders directly into the app, it gives a much cleaner look than lossless scaling does, you can also add reshade to the MPV player, then use Lossless Scaling for the framegen.
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for 60fps you would need 30fps anime, but the standard is 23.976 fps, so you will get 48fps max. but for the Anime4k option pick very large, and adjust your window size, i found if anime has artifacts that resizing the window smaller before i upscale can give it a cleaner look, you can achieve that by setting the rescaling to manual then check the 'resize before scaling' option, increase/descrease this number to your liking. Leave the Capture API on DXGI.

not sure how you are viewing your anime but some web browsers/ video players dont report the fps quite right so its a pain to set up. VLC and Chrome work fine tho. Kodi on the other hand does not, firefox didnt report the frame rate properly neither)

however if you want your anime (downloaded) to look even better i recommend using MPV player, and add the Anime4k shaders directly into the app, it gives a much cleaner look than lossless scaling does, you can also add reshade to the MPV player, then use Lossless Scaling for the framegen.
最近の変更はkripcisionが行いました; 2024年5月14日 15時45分
2D/hand drawn anime scenes generally does not look very nice with frame generation, but 3D scenes work pretty well.
3D scenes or hybrid 3D scenes are becoming more and more popular now.
Spook 2024年5月15日 0時50分 
2D anime looks fine when properly interpolated. Though i would see about not exceeding twice the framerate of the source. Because if you are, you're going to be synthesizing frames based upon synthesized frames, which is where artifacting can get out of hand. Plus, even if it weren't for the artifacting, stuff generally starts to look a bit too smooth.

For 24fps (most anime and movies, 2nd most stupid standard, which needs to die already), you'll want either full refresh framegen at 48hz, 1/2 rate framegen at 96hz or 1/3 rate framegen at 144hz.
I personally like 1/2 rate framegen at 96hz best as that give you better motion smoothness but still some of the stoppiness that the animation was designed in mind with.

Iv'e found Lossless scaling to work well on Firefox, setting the Capture API to WGC gives me the best results on windows 10 22H2.
最近の変更はSpookが行いました; 2024年5月15日 1時10分
Thanks a lot guys
最近の変更はMercodes Benzが行いました; 2024年5月15日 2時08分
Spook の投稿を引用:
I personally like 1/2 rate framegen at 96hz best as that give you better motion smoothness but still some of the stoppiness that the animation was designed in mind with.

Iv'e found Lossless scaling to work well on Firefox, setting the Capture API to WGC gives me the best results on windows 10 22H2.
yeah those virtual sync ratios dont work for all refresh rates tho, for example i have a 100 hz screen so literally none of the ratios work for me with firefox, so i have to use apps that losseless can properly detect the fps with DXGI, rather than WGC. however like you said its fine for 144hz screens tho.


kazenorin の投稿を引用:
2D/hand drawn anime scenes generally does not look very nice with frame generation, but 3D scenes work pretty well.
3D scenes or hybrid 3D scenes are becoming more and more popular now.
yes, anime does a lot of duplicate frames or at least animation-wise, the video may be techincally 23.976 fps, but the the animation is far far lower, as low or even lower than 15 fps, it doesnt get quite smoothed out as much as a video as real life or 3d footages.
最近の変更はkripcisionが行いました; 2024年5月15日 4時26分
Spook 2024年5月15日 4時32分 
kripcision の投稿を引用:
yeah those virtual sync ratios dont work for all refresh rates tho, for example i have a 100 hz screen so literally none of the rations work for me with firefox, so i have to use apps that losseless can properly detect the fps with DXGI, rather than WGC. however like you said its fine for 144hz screens tho.

Have you tried adding custom refresh rates via custom resolutions? If you enjoy cinematic content on your device it's probably worth the effort.

You can add custom resolutions via your graphics drivers control panel (on Nvidia atleast) or via ToastyX's Custom Resolution Utility or CRU for short.

If you use multiple resolutions i can recommend Hotkey Resolution Changer or HRC for short. Very handy, iv'e got ctrl+alt+shift+0-9 setup for different resolutions. Switching between takes seconds.
最近の変更はSpookが行いました; 2024年5月15日 4時33分
Spook の投稿を引用:
kripcision の投稿を引用:
yeah those virtual sync ratios dont work for all refresh rates tho, for example i have a 100 hz screen so literally none of the rations work for me with firefox, so i have to use apps that losseless can properly detect the fps with DXGI, rather than WGC. however like you said its fine for 144hz screens tho.

Have you tried adding custom refresh rates via custom resolutions? If you enjoy cinematic content on your device it's probably worth the effort.

You can add custom resolutions via your graphics drivers control panel (on Nvidia atleast) or via ToastyX's Custom Resolution Utility or CRU for short.

If you use multiple resolutions i can recommend Hotkey Resolution Changer or HRC for short. Very handy, iv'e got ctrl+alt+shift+0-9 setup for different resolutions. Switching between takes seconds.
thanks for the CRU, managed to set up a 96hz alternative, i have already been using HRC for a few months now so i i'll add the one refresh rate to one of the hotkeys.
mpv is how I first used Anime4k, though I don't remember the results to be much different from Lossless Scaling
moshiwakeda の投稿を引用:
mpv is how I first used Anime4k, though I don't remember the results to be much different from Lossless Scaling
depends on which settings you have as the anime4k has many different configurations, the highend preset is what i was refering to.

i did some comparisons, between the highend preset for anime4k in mpv, lossless scaling anime4k and ACNET presets (view each image in full screen, preferabley on a 1440p screen)
https://imgur.com/a/anime4k-mpv-losslessscaling-vs-acnet-ssVIPEC
https://imgur.com/a/anime4k-acnet-comparison-aJNBFK8
最近の変更はkripcisionが行いました; 2024年5月15日 17時29分
Pich 2024年5月15日 18時38分 
That MPV + anime4K is really good. Thanks for this discovery.
最近の変更はPichが行いました; 2024年5月15日 18時38分
kripcision の投稿を引用:
moshiwakeda の投稿を引用:
mpv is how I first used Anime4k, though I don't remember the results to be much different from Lossless Scaling
depends on which settings you have as the anime4k has many different configurations, the highend preset is what i was refering to.

i did some comparisons, between the highend preset for anime4k in mpv, lossless scaling anime4k and ACNET presets (view each image in full screen, preferabley on a 1440p screen)
https://imgur.com/a/anime4k-mpv-losslessscaling-vs-acnet-ssVIPEC
https://imgur.com/a/anime4k-acnet-comparison-aJNBFK8
Idk why but it doesn't work
https://imgur.com/a/qAnCUak
Just no differense at all. What am i doing wrong? Tried mpv, vlc, potplayer and browser (Kodik player). No one is working. Fps boosts from 24 to 48 in everyone, but upscale doesn't work
最近の変更はFidRay16が行いました; 2024年6月2日 8時43分
--something different--
About video/anime upscaling:
if you own a Nvidia RTX gpu, then I suggest to use the Nvidia RTX Super Resolution feature.
it will upscale any video from the browser and local files (MPC, maybe VLC player works too).
that feature will clean the image from artefacts and will make anything smother and sharp looking.
anime4k is from what I have seen, just a sharpening effect.

https://imgur.com/a/0uBe08x

here is a comparison from a very crappy clip. on a video with higher bitrate it looks even better. do your research or just activate it right now. its in the Nvidia controlpanel->Video
最近の変更はVitaCola[GER]が行いました; 1月4日 10時59分
VitaColaGER の投稿を引用:
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anime4k is from what I have seen, just a sharpening effect.
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Anime4k upscales, denoises and thins lines.
Comparisons on authors github[github.com]

Do you know if RTX Super Resolution can be activated from the legacy NVCP?
最近の変更はSpookが行いました; 1月4日 11時09分
VitaColaGER の投稿を引用:
--something different--
About video/anime upscaling:
if you own a Nvidia RTX gpu, then I suggest to use the Nvidia RTX Super Resolution feature.
it will upscale any video from the browser and local files (MPC, maybe VLC player works too).
that feature will clean the image from artefacts and will make anything smother and sharp looking.
anime4k is from what I have seen, just a sharpening effect.

https://imgur.com/a/0uBe08x

here is a comparison from a very crappy clip. on a video with higher bitrate it looks even better. do your research or just activate it right now. its in the Nvidia controlpanel->Video
thanks! I'll try it as soon as I can
VitaColaGER の投稿を引用:
... Nvidia RTX Super Resolution feature.
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here is the official info what it does. https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/atomic-heart-dlss-3-the-finals-closed-beta-game-ready-driver/

the new 'Nvidia App' has also a checkbox somewhere for this feature.

and my final word with demo images and explenations: https://imgur.com/a/OOKRbfY




how do you actually use this anime4k? do you just open the videoplayer and then press the shortcuts or skale button on the player window?
I have bunch of .glsl shaders downloaded, but my videoplayer does not support this format. so I stick with my linked above solution.
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