Lossless Scaling

Lossless Scaling

Milamber Jun 10, 2024 @ 6:06am
What is your preferred "Scaling Type"
I have a 4090 Nvidia graphics card and I'm using LS1, I am very new to this software and so I'm looking for any tips on what you guys use. These settings are for Hellldivers 2: https://i.postimg.cc/wvV9CKWy/Screenshot-2024-06-10-223159.png
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kripcision Jun 10, 2024 @ 6:13am 
LS1 or FSR, i see a fair amount prefer LS1 typically. For 2d games i prefer xBR, for anime i choose Anime4k.
Rivaldman Jun 10, 2024 @ 6:16am 
LS1 gives me outstanding enhancement, among the other options.
alumlovescake Jun 10, 2024 @ 6:33am 
If you have a 4090 why are you using the scaling in this software and not just using DSR?
Milamber Jun 10, 2024 @ 7:18am 
Originally posted by alumlovescake:
If you have a 4090 why are you using the scaling in this software and not just using DSR?

If I choose not to use scaling it says auto and to make sure it was using the best quality I set it to 1. Where do I find DSR?
Rivaldman Jun 10, 2024 @ 7:56am 
When you have an RTX 4090, you can play anything at 4k ultra.

So what exactly is your target using LS, 8k or something else?
Spook Jun 10, 2024 @ 8:09am 
LS1 on games that don't suffer from oversharpening, as it looks good but can really exaggerate sharpening artifacts. Probably use on setting 0-2 as it sharpens aggressively.
I haven't tried LS1 yet in a game where film grain cant be disabled, but i can imagine LS1 could make a mess of that at higher settings.

AMD FSR on games that are plenty sharp to begin with or suffer from sharpening artifacts.
AMD FSR also work great as subtle sharpening filter to combat TAA blur when not upscaling and using native resolution.

Anime4K for online video content as it seems to smooth out compression artifacts, whereas LS1 might exaggerate these. Probably wouldn't use Anime4k for games because the smoothing can obscure texture details and it is fairly resource heavy.

And if anyone has found a use for the Nvidia Image Sharpening filter, i'd be interested to hear about it.
Spook Jun 10, 2024 @ 8:10am 
Originally posted by Rivaldman:
When you have an RTX 4090, you can play anything at 4k ultra.

Haha, not quite. And UE5 is looking to make things worse.
Last edited by Spook; Jun 10, 2024 @ 8:11am
Rivaldman Jun 10, 2024 @ 8:21am 
Originally posted by Spook:
Originally posted by Rivaldman:
When you have an RTX 4090, you can play anything at 4k ultra.

Haha, not quite. And UE5 is looking to make things worse.

I will have to get it in hands to feel how inadequate for UE5 lol

from an RTX 3070 user, gaming in 1080p
Xavvy Jun 10, 2024 @ 10:12am 
Originally posted by alumlovescake:
If you have a 4090 why are you using the scaling in this software and not just using DSR?

Ever heard of just wanting better thermals, performance headroom etc? .. or modding. Even a 4090(which I also have) sweats pretty damned hard running a 6K/120fps 3000+ modded Skyrim setup with ray tracing/path tracing mods. My rig is setup for 4K(4k monitors etc) but 6K+ DLDSR looks aboslutely incredibly combined with ultra quality/quality dlss combined and the performance is basically 4.5k for the price of a very sharp/crisp and smooth looking 6K resolution. Also there are certain games that even a 4090 can barely push to 120fps. Using DLSS settings at high resolutions like 4K+ combined with 1.1-1.3 LS1 nets much better performance with very little reduction in quality.
Last edited by Xavvy; Jun 10, 2024 @ 10:13am
Milamber Jun 10, 2024 @ 2:48pm 
Originally posted by Rivaldman:
When you have an RTX 4090, you can play anything at 4k ultra.

So what exactly is your target using LS, 8k or something else?

Helldivers 2 at 4K drops from 90fps to 45fps in intense scenes. This is the only game that does this, since they dont have frame generation or DLSS.
wywxm-Hu Jun 12, 2024 @ 12:36pm 
Originally posted by Rivaldman:
When you have an RTX 4090, you can play anything at 4k ultra.

So what exactly is your target using LS, 8k or something else?

depends on the cpu u may not even hit 100fps playing tarkov on streets
Xavvy Jun 12, 2024 @ 8:16pm 
Originally posted by Rivaldman:
When you have an RTX 4090, you can play anything at 4k ultra.

So what exactly is your target using LS, 8k or something else?

While this is true. It's also not true. I, myself have a 4K 240hz alienware monitor(32") and a 4k 165hz dual ultra wide.. and straight up a 4090 will not push the max possible framerate of my monitors.. so yeah this is still very necessary software for someone with a 4090. with this I can play starfield on my 4090 at 240fps Ultra settings @ 4k.. something that DLSS FG and FSR3 FG could not do. There is so much versatility to this app. There are games like Spacer's Choice Edition The Outer Worlds(a favourite of mine) that I like run with in 6K DLDSR with max FPS and this allows me to do that even on my gaming only rig with a 4080.
Last edited by Xavvy; Jun 12, 2024 @ 8:17pm
Milamber Jun 12, 2024 @ 8:53pm 
Originally posted by wywxm-Hu:
Originally posted by Rivaldman:
When you have an RTX 4090, you can play anything at 4k ultra.

So what exactly is your target using LS, 8k or something else?

depends on the cpu u may not even hit 100fps playing tarkov on streets
My CPU is a 7950x with 1000w PSU and 32GB 6000mhz RAM, 3x Samsung 980 Pro M.2 drives on 49” of glory.
Raphael Aug 25, 2024 @ 7:41am 
Originally posted by Rivaldman:
When you have an RTX 4090, you can play anything at 4k ultra.

So what exactly is your target using LS, 8k or something else?

As a 4090 user with a 7800x3d, there are definitely limitations. Path tracing in Cyberpunk destroys FPS, even on an 4090, and upscaling and framegen are required measures (edit: on highest possible settings). If you have anything that's as intensive but has no DLSS implementation, then one could look to something like LS.
Last edited by Raphael; Aug 25, 2024 @ 7:42am
ChillGamer Aug 25, 2024 @ 12:34pm 
It depends on what game you are using it for, but my favorite so far is AMD FSR, even though im using nvidia GPU it works just fine :d2tidehunter:
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