Lossless Scaling

Lossless Scaling

SonukYildiz Jun 8, 2024 @ 7:08am
how to use this program now?
grug big dumb, grug want buy fps but grug only use rock and stick, grug don't know fancy words to use magic stick go bonk on magic slab go fast


Jokes aside is there any rather detailed guide or manual how this program works, what each settings do etc? Yeah I know there's a topic on how to use but I'd like to understand a bit more to use it efficiently
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Gizzmoe Jun 8, 2024 @ 7:21am 
It depends, what's your GPU and what monitor refresh rate do you use? How many fps are you trying to reach?
Omega Syrus Jun 8, 2024 @ 7:24am 
Easiest thing to do is use the keyboard shortcut to toggle it:

Ctrl-Alt-S

If you want upscaling, you need to play the game in a smaller window. Go to Lossless Scaling and select an upscaling type. Then, enable it. It'll automatically full screen and upscale.

For frame generation, know that 2x is superior in quality. 3x has to do a lot of guess work and there is some artifacting. It does extremely well in some games though.

Performance mode for framegen may increase your base frame rate but may result in pacing issues. I definitely noticed when it was toggled. If input lag bothers you, turn on Allow Tearing. If you have a high refresh monitor it's likely you won't even notice.

Some games won't let the keyboard shortcut work. For those instances you may need to run Lossless Scaling as Administrator. However, you can also click scale in the app and just click on the game you'll be playing and it'll work after 5 seconds. You'll see the brief flicker.

If you change in game settings and end up with a double window, toggle the app off and on.

Keep in mind you can also use this in any app like a web browser to add frames to videos. It does reek a little havoc on the mouse pointer as it syncs the mouse to frame rate. There's an option to disable that, but it's not recommended for gaming.
SonukYildiz Jun 8, 2024 @ 7:30am 
Originally posted by Gizzmoe:
It depends, what's your GPU and what monitor refresh rate do you use? How many fps are you trying to reach?
GTX 1650, 144 hz, I'm just trying to run games smoothly above 60 without stutters.

Originally posted by Omega Syrus:
Easiest thing to do is use the keyboard shortcut to toggle it:

Ctrl-Alt-S

If you want upscaling, you need to play the game in a smaller window. Go to Lossless Scaling and select an upscaling type. Then, enable it. It'll automatically full screen and upscale.

For frame generation, know that 2x is superior in quality. 3x has to do a lot of guess work and there is some artifacting. It does extremely well in some games though.

Performance mode for framegen may increase your base frame rate but may result in pacing issues. I definitely noticed when it was toggled. If input lag bothers you, turn on Allow Tearing. If you have a high refresh monitor it's likely you won't even notice.

Some games won't let the keyboard shortcut work. For those instances you may need to run Lossless Scaling as Administrator. However, you can also click scale in the app and just click on the game you'll be playing and it'll work after 5 seconds. You'll see the brief flicker.

If you change in game settings and end up with a double window, toggle the app off and on.

Keep in mind you can also use this in any app like a web browser to add frames to videos. It does reek a little havoc on the mouse pointer as it syncs the mouse to frame rate. There's an option to disable that, but it's not recommended for gaming.

Awesome explanation of the practical use, thank you!
Gizzmoe Jun 8, 2024 @ 7:57am 
Originally posted by delta48:
GTX 1650, 144 hz, I'm just trying to run games smoothly above 60 without stutters.

You read the Guide thread, so you know to set the base framerate to half your refresh rate (or 1/3 for x3 framegen) for best results. A good start would be to lower your refresh to lets say 80hz, then set a framecap of 40 for 2x framegen and then check how high your GPU load is in the games. If your GPU can't deliver 40fps base frame at all times lower your graphics setting and/or render resolution until your GPU load is below 95%.
srjw Jun 14, 2024 @ 2:33pm 
Originally posted by Gizzmoe:
Originally posted by delta48:
GTX 1650, 144 hz, I'm just trying to run games smoothly above 60 without stutters.

You read the Guide thread, so you know to set the base framerate to half your refresh rate (or 1/3 for x3 framegen) for best results. A good start would be to lower your refresh to lets say 80hz, then set a framecap of 40 for 2x framegen and then check how high your GPU load is in the games. If your GPU can't deliver 40fps base frame at all times lower your graphics setting and/or render resolution until your GPU load is below 95%.

Should I be seeking to use as many real frames from the game as possible. EG, if I can lock 60fps and use 2x for a 120hz monitor, should I do that vs 40fps using 3x?
Gizzmoe Jun 14, 2024 @ 2:42pm 
Originally posted by srjw:
Should I be seeking to use as many real frames from the game as possible. EG, if I can lock 60fps and use 2x for a 120hz monitor, should I do that vs 40fps using 3x?

That's a matter of taste. I am happy with x3 40/120 with Performance mode Off in CP2077, Witcher 3 and some other games, some prefer x2 60/120. There is very little difference in smoothness imo between those two.
Last edited by Gizzmoe; Jun 14, 2024 @ 2:47pm
SaltyRey Jun 15, 2024 @ 6:53am 
Originally posted by Omega Syrus:
It does reek a little havoc on the mouse pointer as it syncs the mouse to frame rate. There's an option to disable that, but it's not recommended for gaming.

Really?! Where can I find that option? I see myself avoiding using the app on games that uses MK because of the ponter locked to the frame rate
Omega Syrus Jun 15, 2024 @ 10:42am 
Originally posted by SaltyRey:
Really?! Where can I find that option? I see myself avoiding using the app on games that uses MK because of the ponter locked to the frame rate

The option is "Adjust Cursor Speed". It doesn't increase the frame rate of the cursor, but it does make its movement predictable. But really, its only good for games where you need a predictable cursor position; not fps or action games.
Originally posted by Gizzmoe:
set the base framerate to half your refresh rate (or 1/3 for x3 framegen) for best results.

This isnt even necessary though when using the DXGI capture mode though - the OP has a good point, LS is a great app but it needs way better optimization.

I trippled Valheim and doubled Ground Branch using this guide - https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2571051375 - which required no locking of frame rates, it took about an hour to set it up though.
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